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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:46 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs i have this sneaking suspicion that i'm not very good at it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371556) |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 4:07 PM Author: filthy patrolman striped hyena pay someone smart to do it for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11486722) |
Date: April 8th, 2009 6:47 PM Author: odious meetinghouse westlaw, not lexis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371564) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs cool, i already prefer westlaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371621) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: Exhilarant principal's office You can sometimes find more unpublished opinions on Lex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371628) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs what's the point of unpublished opinions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371642) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:55 PM Author: Exhilarant principal's office if you want to argue that an appellate opinion on the unpublished opinion was in error, it is helpful to cite to the original opinion and show how the appellate court erred in its interpretation rather than using the cherrypicked info that the appellate court references. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371659) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:57 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs gotcha ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371671) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:00 PM Author: odious meetinghouse and even if you can't cite to them, if they are well-written and/or well-reasoned and supported by helpful authority you can copy them. instant brief. takes about 20 minutes to purge the proprietary formatting. bill 4.7, 7.7, 6.6, 8.2, and 5.7 on non-consecutive days to research, draft, review/revise, and finalize memorandum of p. & a. i/s/o motion to whatever. about 15-grand of cash flow for the firm, at virtually no cost.
that's not research advice. it's career advice. |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:07 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371745) |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 8:52 AM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building the ABA has issued a take-down notice for this post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779599) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:20 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler A++ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798813) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:01 PM Author: Coiffed zippy menage Date: April 8th, 2009 7:00 PM Author: Renada Deshada obe
and even if you can't cite to them, if they are well-written and/or well-reasoned and supported by helpful authority you can copy them. instant brief. takes about 20 minutes to purge the proprietary formatting. bill 4.7, 7.7, 6.6, 8.2, and 5.7 on non-consecutive days to research, draft, review/revise, and finalize memorandum of p. & a. i/s/o motion to whatever. about 15-grand of cash flow for the firm, at virtually no cost.
that's not research advice. it's career advice.
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Date: December 16th, 2009 12:46 AM Author: comical gay stage Isn't this plagiarism? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13565162) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 2:48 AM Author: Emerald property lol you are obviously not a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14187289) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:57 AM Author: dashing center new version lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188846) |
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Date: March 31st, 2010 3:39 PM Author: odious meetinghouse plagarism is the least serious violation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14559361) |
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Date: August 19th, 2011 5:40 PM Author: Charismatic Boistinker Temple lol. r u serious? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#18791012) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 2:10 AM Author: autistic spot athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14187047) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:19 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy nibblets "that's not research advice. it's career advice."
TCR
We need to have more PRACTICAL advice on these boards. |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:15 PM Author: Vibrant skinny woman 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16276882) |
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Date: October 7th, 2011 11:32 PM Author: Bateful Internal Respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#19124591) |
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Date: November 26th, 2011 7:21 PM Author: swashbuckling fear-inspiring feces reading party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#19444938) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:05 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire FRCP now states that you may cite any unpublished appeals court decision written in 2007 (I think?) or later (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371731) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 8:15 PM Author: demanding crimson round eye house Can be persuasive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11372271) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 6:20 AM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station IRL, they're just as useful as published opinions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377039) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:25 PM Author: histrionic domesticated hell digit ratio CR - it's really arbitrary what gets published anyway. The judge I worked for (SDNY) had no problem using them in his opinions when needed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13094973) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 9:33 AM Author: Bearded Internet-worthy Piazza Hissy Fit That depends. Many courts issue unpublished opinions when they half ass it, and judges know this. That doesn't mean they won't rely on it to back up their opinion if necessary, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188240) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:25 AM Author: twinkling trailer park "Many courts issue unpublished opinions when they half ass it"
Lazy bastards. |
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Date: August 19th, 2011 6:21 PM Author: soggy galvanic hospital yarmulke Respectfully disagree. We give unpublished opinions no weight whatsoever in my chambers. So, YMMV (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#18791182) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:33 AM Author: Bearded Internet-worthy Piazza Hissy Fit this is usually false, westlaw seems to have more unpublished opinions by far in my experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737266) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:42 AM Author: twinkling trailer park Lexis doesn't even have some unpublished state opinions. As far as I know, Westlaw has all of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737313) |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 10:49 PM Author: histrionic domesticated hell digit ratio I prefer Shepardize to KeyCite. Otherwise, WestLaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11491310) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:53 PM Author: sickened parlor idiot google it before you start using the pay services (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371631) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs this is good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371634) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:36 PM Author: spruce pontificating alpha Flat rate = doesn't matter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371997) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:35 AM Author: Bearded Internet-worthy Piazza Hissy Fit well, two problems: - Even if your firm pays a flatrate, they bill the client for what the usage charge would be. - the so-called flat rate but the "flat rate" is actually usage based, determined by estimating usage based on past usage. running up a big bill means your next contract has a higher "flat" rate. |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:42 AM Author: twinkling trailer park "Even if your firm pays a flatrate, they bill the client for what the usage charge would be."
That's extremely unethical. I've also never seen a firm that charges that way. How would I know? Simple. Legal research costs are recoverable as attorney's fees in some jurisdictions. I have seen fee applications from those jurisdictions. Westlaw will automatically allocate your usage across client IDs. How would I know? Simple. I've done fee applications that relied on the Westlaw reports.
"the so-called flat rate but the "flat rate" is actually usage based, determined by estimating usage based on past usage. running up a big bill means your next contract has a higher "flat" rate."
Not really. Those sorts of issues only pop up at fairly large firms, but they're already negotiating deals that, per person, are cheaper than normal anyway. And those firms and their clients aren't bitching about your use of ALLFEDS. |
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Date: May 18th, 2009 9:26 PM Author: Flatulent messiness Winner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11768600) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:22 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler if your firm/client cares about using the pay services to do work try not to work at a shitty firm with tight ass clients (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798826) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:37 AM Author: sexy supple crotch Even small firms generally have flat-rate plans. What sorts of firms don't have those plans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798911) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:39 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler no idea. only time id put up with it from the client end is if i were working with start ups in silicon valley (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798925) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 9:47 PM Author: magical mediation school thats what I do and it's surprisingly helpful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13094647) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 6:59 PM Author: Maize Scourge Upon The Earth When you have an issue - ALWAYS start with the law review & journal search. Find one good law review article and it will have all the cases you'll ever need. Just make sure they are still good law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371682) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:01 PM Author: odious meetinghouse good idea. lots of people never do this; but that is the best way to get a broad feel for an issue, especially an unfamiliar one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371703) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:01 PM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building fuck dood edit this out. i thought only i knew this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371707) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:04 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma lol. same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371729) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:04 PM Author: insecure razzle pit newt credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371726) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:08 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs awesome. i've done this with ALR's, but didn't try it with articles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371763) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:11 PM Author: concupiscible amber milk senate I thought everybody knew this? It's a guaranteed way to get the most important case on point and shepherds can take it from there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371791) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:57 AM Author: unhinged incel I am disturbed by how many people found this to be groundbreaking advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375958) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:42 PM Author: Vibrant skinny woman agree. i think i actually learned this before law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16277052) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 8:40 AM Author: Exhilarant principal's office Credited. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377093) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:23 PM Author: Adventurous Bbw Date: April 8th, 2009 6:59 PM Author: Rudolph
When you have an issue - ALWAYS start with the law review & journal search. Find one good law review article and it will have all the cases you'll ever need. Just make sure they are still good law.
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:39 PM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building dammit, no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373660) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:41 PM Author: Heady twinkling uncleanness I disagree. The ideal case to use is the most recent circuit court opinion from your circuit, and it is not that likely the articles you find will be recent enough to cite to it.
I rarely find law review articles to be useful. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 9:16 AM Author: 180 main people But, the law review will likely contain a seminal case that the most recent circuit opinion will cite, which you then find via Shephards.
You're right that a recent circuit opinion is a great source, but the trick is finding that recent opinion. |
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Date: January 24th, 2010 8:56 PM Author: Stirring Juggernaut D. Ct. clerk here, I think academic articles have their place, but they're usually not the best place to start legal research. I ordinarily only use law reviews for "hard" questions, or for issues that have rarely been discussed in the case reporters.
An on-topic treatise can be a great place to start, esp if you don't know search terms. But generally, the most efficient way to find a good case is with a terms and connectors search--learn how to use this function. Also, if you know a seminal SCOTUS case and need to see how it's been applied in your circuit, use the keycite function and go to "edit keycite." You can really do a targeted search this way. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:06 AM Author: orchid casino I pity the firm that has to pay for your inefficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377538) |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 9:28 AM Author: carnelian laughsome field Yep. Secondary sources are the tits when you don't know shit about an issue. You're asking for a major ass-reaming if you dive straight into case law without any direction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779634) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:25 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler or you could do treatises to similar effect with less of the academic verbosity. i use both though.
edit- guy below beat me to it |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:03 PM Author: insecure razzle pit newt start with the relevant treatise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371720) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:12 PM Author: Ruby idea he suggested office credited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373394) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:03 PM Author: vermilion jet-lagged ladyboy institution I'm transactional, but if you just want to look up securities regulations or rules, this site is free and often faster/better-formatted than westlaw or lexis:
http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/xyz/sldtoc.html |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:12 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371802) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:11 PM Author: Floppy lodge associate keep looking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371783) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:15 PM Author: Vigorous cuck Google is very useful to find write-ups of legal topics by other law firms advertising to clients. Treatises are usually better to start with than blind case law searches. Shephardize the cases mentioned in the previous sources, then go from the controlling circuit court to your particular district court. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371836) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:19 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs good tip about google. usually i do ALR -> controlling cases / statutes -> KeyCite to other cases in jurisdiction. i don't think i ever use the search function. is this the credited way to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11371866) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:16 AM Author: shaky personal credit line i don't use westlaw, how do you get here in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376102) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:15 AM Author: shaky personal credit line not only that, sometimes google gets you to blog posts by reputable academics about the latest case and what it means (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376093) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:46 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire This has actually been useful for me once or twice. Patry's blog was a gold mine for copyright cases before he closed shop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378387) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:52 AM Author: soul-stirring box office dog poop the TTAB blog is amazing for trademark law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188816) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:26 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire Here's one that attorneys fuck up all the time. If you're citing a case for a certain proposition, make sure it comes out your way on that issue.
For instance, say my opponent objects to some evidence as hearsay and I think it's a business record. There are like 1000 cases that set forth the basic test for the business record exception to the hearsay rule. Out of those 1000 cases, make sure you cite one that allows the evidence to be admitted. Otherwise a good opposing counsel will throw that back in your face. |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 8:12 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs good practice point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11372239) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:38 PM Author: Heady twinkling uncleanness this is pretty obvious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373647) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:14 AM Author: Cracking Offensive Locus I'm a clerk. You would be AMAZED how often attorneys fuck this up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377581) |
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Date: May 18th, 2009 10:04 PM Author: aqua titillating keepsake machete stag film I've been working for a judge for 6 days now, I've seen it in 3 separate briefs. I'm going to be able to dismiss one guy's case because his attorney put in a case that went against them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11769015) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:48 AM Author: twinkling trailer park It sounds like you're saying you can't distinguish a statement of law from the application of law. Is that right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737343) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:47 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire Apparently not.
A think a lot of attorneys just westlaw "hearsay /p business record" and cie the first case that comes up. Or they will cite a case they got from Wright & Miller without actually reading the case itself. |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 2:34 AM Author: Glittery tank This is one of the things I hate most about legal practice, or at least, my anal approach to it. Can't tell you how many times I need to cite some standard which clearly applies in my favor but all the cases I can find come out the other way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779167) |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 2:54 AM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire All the fucking time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779238) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:47 AM Author: twinkling trailer park "Otherwise a good opposing counsel will throw that back in your face."
There's nothing "good" about that technique unless there's some other analysis from the case that bears on the case being litigated.
In fact, I'd say it's mostly retarded lawyers who argue against well established principles of law based on an irrelevant outcome. |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 7:38 PM Author: Coral friendly grandma if you are still in law school - just check the printers for other students papers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11372007) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:42 PM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building one time i saw a fellow student's take home exam sitting there in the printer tray. i was not going to take the 6-hr exam till the end of the exam period and she had apparently decided to take it on day 1. she was on law review too.
i was THIS close to snatching that fucker, taking it home and analyzing it to figure out what the exam questions were. but then i thought better of it and pussied out and decided to be a good samaritan (for real). proudest A- of my life :)
(of course, this wasn't a 1L course; if it was a 1L course, i probably would have cheated) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:36 AM Author: Garnet curious knife base This happened hardcore at my university a few years ago and several students were accused of cheating and almost expelled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375100) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:48 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire I would think stealing another person's exame = automatic expulsion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378418) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:40 PM Author: arousing blue theater stage I get a first year associate to either do it or call the firm library. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373661) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:45 PM Author: Hairless Wonderful Legend Find the case that is closest to your case. Use WL or pacer or whatever online filing system the state has to get the briefs. Only rely on briefs from firms you have heard of and preferably, firms that you know are very good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373716) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:46 PM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building fuck, edit this out! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373728) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:46 PM Author: Hairless Wonderful Legend No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373732) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:40 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs ty, great advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375819) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 3:20 AM Author: Shimmering narrow-minded chad great technique (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376627) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:36 PM Author: At-the-ready henna halford clown got me through legal writing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378306) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:49 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire This is a good idea but time-consuming. I've only done this for really big issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378423) |
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Date: April 8th, 2009 10:46 PM Author: hairraiser rough-skinned genital piercing theater start with a basic internet search. this wouldn't have worked a few years ago, but nowadays there are shitloads of random attorneys and laypeople who have put up their own legal research on the internet. you obviously don't want to rely on random internet people's research, but it can give you a bunch of relevant case cites right away, and you can investigate those to start with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11373722) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:37 AM Author: Umber Church Love Of Her Life Practice Series kills for most state issues. It does the research for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375113) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:32 AM Author: Scarlet dopamine lay This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737265) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:41 AM Author: confused indian lodge regret Read the BNA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375157) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:40 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs what's that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375816) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:36 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sadistic mad cow disease Edit your search down by headnote when you Keycite. It's shocking how many law students didn't know this by 2L year, and were wasting time going through 100 cases cited for a different proposition. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375787) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:38 AM Author: Thirsty chocolate jew church building lolwut?
explain this to me like im a 10 year old. ty. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:53 AM Author: Useless Ticket Booth Instead of clicking on citing references and getting all 11ty billion cases that cite the original case you can either 1) click on find citing references for a particular headnote by clicking on that line or 2) get the full list of citing references in keycite then use the limit function to restrict it to particular headnotes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375913) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:54 AM Author: Chest-beating Crystalline Macaca this is like awesome. tytyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375929) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:39 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs could you explain how to do that? i'm dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375806) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:58 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sadistic mad cow disease Yeah, they teach you this if you go to Westlaw training, but most people just dick around on the internet so they don't learn it.
Okay, let's say that you want to figure out if some admissions system creates an unconstitutional quota system. All you care about is the narrow issue of how to define a "quota." You know the leading case on this is Grutter, so you look it up. That's fine--but next you need to know how lower courts have applied the quota definition from Grutter.
Many people either just click the flag icon or "citing references" and start at the time. So for Grutter, you'll bring up a bunch of cases that talk about what constitutes a "compelling interest" in addition to those mentioning quotas. Often there aren't many cases, so this works just fine, even if it's not the most efficient way to do it--but where you're reverse citing a prominent case that has multiple holdings, you're in trouble. You could spend all day sifting through cases that have absolutely no relevance to your issue.
At the bottom of the screen, there is a gray bar with a button that says "limit keycite display." Click that button. You will get several options for how to limit cases. Click on "headnotes," the second option.
The screen with show boxes for each headnote; let's say there are 20 for your case. Below those boxes, there will be text for each of those 20 headnotes, explaining what part of the holding they refer to. Select the boxes next to the relevant options (sometimes the text is nearly identical in a few headnotes, so you might select 4 or 5 for one topic).
After you've checked the boxes, hit the "apply" button on the left. Your search will now be limited to cases that describe your topic of interest. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:00 AM Author: Chest-beating Crystalline Macaca i irrationally prefer lexis - do you know if it has the same option? I'm too lazy to look at it right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375978) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:09 AM Author: Useless Ticket Booth yes, when you shephardize, do a FOCUS-Restrict by, then click the headnote(s) you want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376047) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:00 PM Author: cyan rehab brethren IIRC, FOCUS searches on Lexis are also free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13094785) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 11:41 PM Author: Spectacular Fiercely-loyal Mental Disorder correct. i am trying to break myself of the lexis habit, but it is sooo hard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13096051) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:52 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire Click on "Shephardize: restrict by headnote" next to whatever proposition you want.
I've found this works better for S.Ct. and federal appeals cases. I think the research attorneys spend less time and do a shittier job on district court and lower state court opinions. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:09 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs awesome. ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376050) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:13 AM Author: shaky personal credit line lexis has this too. the problem is lexis' shit is sorted wrong sometimes. is westlaw pretty accurate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376076) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:35 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sadistic mad cow disease Yes, BUT there are several headnotes that are really similar and therefore you will need to choose multiple headnotes via the method outlined (in excruciating detail) above. Just clicking on a headnote that sounds good can lead to incomplete results. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376253) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:56 AM Author: shaky personal credit line but if i select all of those 4 or 5 similar headnotes, i'll get accurate results, right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376421) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 3:10 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sadistic mad cow disease I have found the headnotes to be accurate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376533) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:16 AM Author: Useless Ticket Booth This was a rediculously thorough explanation.
This is probably why you're a clerk and I'm unemployed. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:33 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sadistic mad cow disease The first dood asked for an explanation suited for a 10-yr-old. I did my best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376231) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:33 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler to add to this with an obvious point- use the limit by jurisdiction option to see how the case has been interpreted in your jurisdiction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798892) |
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Date: January 24th, 2010 9:03 PM Author: Stirring Juggernaut this is very credited. In addition to limiting by HNs, you can limit by jurisdiction, document type, date, extra terms and connectors, etc. This is def. the best way to do research when you're starting with a "seminal case," which is often. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13902640) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:27 PM Author: histrionic domesticated hell digit ratio THIS - restrict by headnote is what it's about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13095002) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:45 AM Author: Chest-beating Crystalline Macaca I always thought that this was obvious, but it may not be. Start your initial search incredibly broad, like stupidly broad, and narrow it down from there. much harder to miss relevant cases this way.
Does anyone else work where you actually have to pull the physical reporters (ie. mostly state practice?) that's the fucking worst. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:46 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs why in the world would you have to do that?
also, i don't use search at all. it seems inefficient. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:48 AM Author: Chest-beating Crystalline Macaca those going to smaller practices. I got the feeling talking to my classmates that I was one of the only 1Ls last who you had to do this.
search can be inefficient, but sometimes you just nail that case with a few quick searches. I think the better suggestion has already been posted above: find the LR article that talks about the subject. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:51 AM Author: Heady twinkling uncleanness So your small law firm doesn't have lexis/westlaw's very cheap basic plan but does have a big law library?
explain. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:54 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire Well this is my situation too. We have all the cases online but many of the treatises only in book form. This actually makes it a lot easier to read the treatises in my opinion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378473) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:30 PM Author: histrionic domesticated hell digit ratio Book form is actually surprisingly good for treatises, especially when you're learning a new area of law - you wind up flipping through and finding important shit you would have missed otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13095029) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 1:56 AM Author: shaky personal credit line in addition to several others already posted, search your firm's system to see if someone's already written the issue up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11375943) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:23 AM Author: shaky personal credit line people talk about treatises. treatises are a good place to get the main points but the cases cited for a lot of the interstitial stuff often don't support the author's position as strongly as he suggests. law review articles seem better. google first, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376155) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:24 AM Author: blathering stead hairy legs yeah i've found ALR and other treatises to be pretty hit or miss w/r/t the cases they cite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376163) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:35 AM Author: Tripping irradiated useless brakes deer antler we should maybe specify which ones are good:
bromberg and ribstein on partnerships is fantastic |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:45 AM Author: trip awkward national pisswyrm The red flags are bad. That's all I remember. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376331) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:53 AM Author: elite international law enforcement agency hall i think this depends (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376391) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 2:54 AM Author: trip awkward national pisswyrm DON'T CONFUSE ME! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11376405) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 5:00 AM Author: Judgmental whorehouse background story Red flags means there is ONE HOLDING in the case that's bad. So you can still reasonably rely on other holdings that weren't overruled. You can check which one isn't by doing shepardizing... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377007) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 6:24 AM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station It unfortunate that I spend so much of my adult life doing legal research that none of these tips are remotely helpful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377041) |
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Date: August 19th, 2011 5:09 PM Author: Disturbing slate party of the first part kitty Sounds like we're all fucked in the same way, BROTHER (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#18790781) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 7:58 AM Author: ultramarine aromatic public bath stock car use westlaw's asset finder and put liens on all of opposing counsel's property. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377070) |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 5:43 PM Author: electric fortuitous meteor point under8d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11487824) |
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Date: December 16th, 2009 1:05 AM Author: red cerebral address massively (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13565376) |
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Date: April 16th, 2010 7:42 AM Author: territorial gaping coffee pot but of course you do. this is what you do when you're a FLAWER.
p.s. back where i used to practice, the attorneys are eating each other right now. seriously. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:15 AM Author: Metal Wine Kitty Cat What's this "shepherdizing" I keep hearing people talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377596) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:55 PM Author: sepia motley multi-billionaire I'm sure it's not important (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378483) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:16 AM Author: Vengeful Ratface Call up Westlaw or Lexis and tell them you need help with an issue. These people can be very helpful and do a lot of the work for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377606) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:19 AM Author: concupiscible amber milk senate credited, but they can also waste twenty minutes of your time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377628) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:20 AM Author: Vengeful Ratface with risk comes reward. def a roll of the dice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377631) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 11:26 AM Author: Canary national security agency Chat window ftw. You can multitask. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11377700) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 10:19 PM Author: provocative plaza dragon It's pretty sweet. Just do some other research while they're doing it for you.
It'll probably actually make you more efficient too because they tell you how they got the answer. |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:49 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy nibblets THIS
Is the fucking credited response.
You are better off scanning Law Reviews and ALR's then asking one of these people to search for you.
If the issue is REALLY difficult, they are going to be JUST AS CONFUSED as you were, except you have to spend 20 minutes of your life listening as they hit the same brick wall you did AN HOUR AGO! |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:39 PM Author: At-the-ready henna halford clown in WL, searching the ToC doesn't cost money (assuming you're on a charged-per-click plan, if you're on a flat rate i guess there's no difference). so if you're in a certain database that's on your subject but not dealing w/your particular issue, just click on the ToC and go through it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378325) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:40 PM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station Right. But those fuckers don't have ToC's for a bunch of stuff they should.
I couldn't believe there was no fucking ToC for Federal Jury Practice and Instructions yesterday. |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:42 PM Author: At-the-ready henna halford clown sucks dood. they probably made one but took it out once they realized they could make more money that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11378357) |
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Date: April 9th, 2009 12:44 PM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station That was distinctly the impression I got.
Keyword searching treatises is just a clusterfuck. |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 5:45 PM Author: Low-t Parlour God, you're such a real lawyer. I hate you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11487846) |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 4:00 PM Author: blathering stead hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11486665) |
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Date: April 20th, 2009 5:45 PM Author: Low-t Parlour Do it or get fired. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11487850) |
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Date: May 18th, 2009 9:15 PM Author: electric fortuitous meteor point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11768467) |
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Date: May 18th, 2009 9:49 PM Author: Salmon karate becky I was asked to research a federal issue and figure out the position a state agency was going to take. Google led me to an opinion by an agency of another state on the exact same issue that had just been issued like 2 days before. It was the position we wanted.
Using this, we went to the state agency before they even had a chance to think about it and we said "Hey, State X is doing Y" and they just agreed rather than research an opposing position |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 8:48 AM Author: Clear mexican crackhouse this almost always works for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779592) |
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Date: May 20th, 2009 2:31 AM Author: At-the-ready henna halford clown bump for the SAs to read at work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11779158) |
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Date: May 21st, 2009 9:49 PM Author: Cordovan kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11795688) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:36 AM Author: sexy supple crotch di,sy(search term) -- searches synopsis and digest/headnotes
wp(search term) -- searches for definitions of term |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 5:50 PM Author: twinkling trailer park The wp function is awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14253215) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:39 AM Author: Razzmatazz legal warrant for a while, lexis forgot to put its practice area guides (like employment law, etc.) behind a password wall. it wasn't available directly, but you could just type in the URL based on a slight tweak from the URLs from the sample pages, and get the whole thing to come up.
i think they changed this, though. |
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Date: May 22nd, 2009 2:42 AM Author: Razzmatazz legal warrant also, if you don't want to spend money on a research system, try doing a search on Google and Scribd.com for a relevant case. sometimes monomaniacs write out whole papers and upload them, and sometimes those things have pretty good synopses or listings of cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#11798939) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2009 12:09 PM Author: Jade heaven Cannot stand research. In order:
1. Phone a more experienced friend at another firm, same practice area obv.
2. Phone library, make them do it.
3. Google.
4. Get someone junior to do it.
http://lawdemon.blogspot.com/ |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:49 AM Author: nudist multi-colored space library generally won't do this sort of work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737346) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 8:00 PM Author: House-broken very tactful state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13093752) |
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Date: October 26th, 2009 11:28 PM Author: Violet boyish old irish cottage sanctuary research how to work in ibanking. HTFH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13095807) |
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Date: January 14th, 2010 6:51 PM Author: Racy shrine I just bookmarked this thread. tytytyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13808488) |
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Date: January 14th, 2010 11:23 PM Author: Indecent marvelous cuckoldry Use Internet Explorer, or another browser that highlights words when you Control-F search them. With some creative use of this, you can get really good at scanning a case quickly to find the most relevant part.
But my best tip is to start with a treatise. |
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Date: January 24th, 2010 7:58 PM Author: Iridescent Passionate Cuckold Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#13901911) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:45 AM Author: idiotic bawdyhouse telephone 1) Use Westlaw, not Lexis. The reason is that when you get your search results, Westlaw shows you more context around your search terms. (I've talked to the people at Lexis and they aren't able to duplicate this.) Usually you can successfully scan the results for hundreds of cases at a time without opening too many individual cases. This is a huge deal.
2) Search broadly, focus narrowly using Locate. This is not very important in law school, where everything is free, but it's crucial in practice.
3) Imagine ways in which a court would phrase the proposition you're looking for. Suppose you want to find a case in which the Court construed "after" as used in a statute or contract--e.g., to argue that "after January 1, 2010" does not include January 1. If you blindly try to use terms and connectors, like this -- after /s (constru! interp!) -- you'll have a tough time. Much better is realizing the court is likely to say something like "The word 'after' means . . . ." or "The phrase after [Date] does not include . . . ." Thus, you should search for ("The term after" "The word after" "after means") or (after /s "does not include").
4) Once you find a good case, check out all the citing references to see if you can find more cases. Or if you're lucky, you may find treatises that collect almost every case on your issue, and cite your case as one example.
5) Understand the reality of persuasive authority. If you're in a federal district court, it goes like this. 1) Precedential appellate opinions; 2) Non-precedential appellate opinions in same circuit; 3) The opinions of the judge you're before (whether published or not); 4) The opinions of the district court you're in (whether published or not); 5) Opinions of other district courts in the same circuit (whether published or not) (tied with) 6) Opinions of appellate courts outside your circuit; 7) Opinions of other district courts outside the circuit; 8) treatises. Anything below 8 (e.g., journal articles) is a waste of your time. Also, there is a big gap between 7 and 8. Judges are very persuaded by opinions of other judges.
Realize that there is little significant difference between published cases and unpublished cases. Every unpublished district court case is citable. Every appellate court case after 2007 is citable. So what if they're not precedential? Do you think your judge is going to want to decide a case in a manner that conflicts with the ruling of an appellate court panel in his circuit?
6) Following up on 5 -- When selecting a database to search, use the smallest database in which you think you are very likely to get cases on point. If it's something very basic that there has to be clear law on, you should choose appellate cases in your circuit. If it's a relatively unique situation, your best bet is usually "All Feds." |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:48 AM Author: Appetizing trust fund i feel like 2 and 6 are in conflict (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188795) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:49 AM Author: idiotic bawdyhouse telephone Changed largest to smallest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188799) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:35 AM Author: twinkling trailer park "This is not very important in law school, where everything is free, but it's crucial in practice."
In practice, virtually everyone has a flat-rate plan.
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Date: November 14th, 2010 6:54 PM Author: Pink Locale Marketing Idea disagree w/ the hierarchy in no.5 -- d.ct. judges HATE it when you try cite their own cases in motions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16551292) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 11:50 AM Author: histrionic domesticated hell digit ratio Might be obvious, but just learn the query commands (or whatever the fuck they're called). Good use of "/s" and "/3"and stuff like that is your friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14188805) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 10:41 PM Author: gaped business firm PROTIP: go into corporate and never worry about researching again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14195502) |
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Date: February 21st, 2010 10:43 PM Author: charcoal masturbator you still research, just not the same type (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14195539) |
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Date: March 31st, 2010 2:04 PM Author: electric fortuitous meteor point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14558538) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:43 AM Author: Bearded Internet-worthy Piazza Hissy Fit I did this and now everyone always wants me to do research! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737321) |
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Date: April 16th, 2010 6:18 AM Author: electric fortuitous meteor point don't neglect the annotated code, fgt!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14728268) |
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Date: April 16th, 2010 6:20 AM Author: excitant frisky death wish legal research is the only thing i'm good at. lol, GREAT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14728271) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:34 AM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station Make the librarians do your research for you and bill it to a litigation client development number instead of the client. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737277) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:51 AM Author: nudist multi-colored space librarians typically dont' do "legal research". they'll pull a case or something but they aren't going to develope lexis searches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737354) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:56 AM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station You need better librarians. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737383) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:57 AM Author: twinkling trailer park Librarians are just overhead for the olds. No one else needs them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737385) |
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Date: April 17th, 2010 11:49 AM Author: twinkling trailer park http://www.citegenie.com/
Bluebooks cases for you.
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Date: April 17th, 2010 12:00 PM Author: Brilliant Arrogant Station Do you not have paralegals to fix your citations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#14737408) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:14 PM Author: Appetizing trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16276873) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:29 PM Author: Flickering brunch One of the most useful threads in history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16276976) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:47 PM Author: Appetizing trust fund yeah i got it bookmarked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16277097) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:16 PM Author: Vibrant skinny woman read and memorize every case available on westlaw. makes researching much easier and faster, because you don't have to research anything -- because it's in your head, the reason being that you memorized it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16276894) |
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Date: October 12th, 2010 6:38 PM Author: Exciting market doctorate STICKY THIS SHIT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#16277031) |
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Date: August 19th, 2011 5:16 PM Author: Violent smoky son of senegal affirmative action just do leagle brah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#18790821) |
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Date: August 19th, 2011 5:23 PM Author: fragrant therapy toaster DAT WESTLAW NEXT is pretty sweet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=971140&forum_id=2Reputation#18790872) |