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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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marvelous theater
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
18000
marvelous theater
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Nofapping laser beams
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Nofapping laser beams
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Nofapping laser beams
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
marvelous theater
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Nofapping laser beams
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Nofapping laser beams
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marvelous theater
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Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
racy sooty tank
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
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racy sooty tank
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Out-of-control crotch new version
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
mahogany hyperactive point
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Floppy Background Story Hospital
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Stirring ticket booth
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Floppy Background Story Hospital
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marvelous theater
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
self-absorbed carmine factory reset button
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Arrogant Tattoo
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Floppy Background Story Hospital
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self-absorbed carmine factory reset button
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marvelous theater
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marvelous theater
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Nofapping laser beams
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
kink-friendly step-uncle's house fat ankles
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: marvelous theater



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: marvelous theater

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: marvelous theater

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: marvelous theater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: racy sooty tank

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: racy sooty tank



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Out-of-control crotch new version

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mahogany hyperactive point

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Stirring ticket booth

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: marvelous theater



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: self-absorbed carmine factory reset button

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Arrogant Tattoo

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Floppy Background Story Hospital



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: self-absorbed carmine factory reset button



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: marvelous theater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: marvelous theater



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Nofapping laser beams

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: kink-friendly step-uncle's house fat ankles

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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