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POLL: Did Pete Hegseht commit a war crime?
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Assuming the following is true, does this constitute a war crime:
The longer the U.S. surveillance aircraft followed the boat, the more confident intelligence analysts watching from command centers became that the 11 people on board were ferrying drugs. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. “The order was to kill everybody,” one of them said. A missile screamed off the Trinidad coast, striking the vessel and igniting a blaze from bow to stern. For minutes, commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed. As the smoke cleared, they got a jolt: Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck. The Special Operations commander overseeing the Sept. 2 attack — the opening salvo in the Trump administration’s war on suspected drug traffickers in the Western Hemisphere — ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions, two people familiar with the matter said. The two men were blown apart in the water. |
Date: November 28th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: avocado frum theater Yes. "Kill everybody" is not a military order. It's a psychopathic utterance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469200) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:59 AM Author: Marvelous painfully honest business firm regret They followed illegal orders!! They were ILLEGAL! OMG!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469730) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:13 AM Author: avocado frum theater That's a non-denial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469736) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:58 PM Author: grizzly gaping stock car Maybe at some "department of defense" it is not. At the Department of War it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471145) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: arousing senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471310) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 10:50 PM Author: Metal national security agency principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473357) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:48 PM Author: Rusted azn rigor race of 2 survivors? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469209) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault This was after they failed to survive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469214) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: Rusted azn rigor Initial survivors yes. Race? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469228) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: Wine meetinghouse As an Officer, he is subject to getting some of that UCMJ-love.
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:51 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Grok, Claude, and Chat all agree this is unambiguously a war crime, except that the best argument against it being a war crime is that this conflict does not qualify as a war, so it is actually just regular old murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469217) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: Spruce base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469221) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: Boyish indian lodge death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469779) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: coiffed property therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471112) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: arousing senate He admitted his intent was to kill, and the killings were unlawful by any measure. Slam dunk conviction but Trump will pardon, I'm sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471313) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:52 AM Author: hairraiser potus roast beef oh? "unlawful by any measure"? care to elaborate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473982) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: Chestnut ape milk Idk if it's a "war crime," but probably violates some gay code of conduct and he should be busted down to Asst. Sec. of War. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469218) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:56 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Assistant TO the Secretary of War (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469233) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:16 AM Author: Disgusting newt famous landscape painting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469551) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471023) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:15 PM Author: blue french chef stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471091) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:35 AM Author: orchid fiercely-loyal keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471426) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 9:56 PM Author: avocado frum theater It's really just plain old fashioned murder like you learned about in 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469235) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:54 PM Author: insecure rehab alpha what did ur 1L professor say about the extrajudicial killing of Mr. Usama Bin Laden? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469473) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:56 PM Author: avocado frum theater Due process doesn't always require a trial. Sometimes an AUMF is sufficient to deprive a person of life or liberty. Voted on by both houses and signed into law, and it's not a bill of attainder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469474) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:02 AM Author: Chestnut ape milk They’re not even sending their brightest anymore, bud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469481) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:01 AM Author: Chestnut ape milk I wasn’t in the same class, but I assume he would have referenced the congressional approval to use all necessary force against Al Qaeda: https://www.congress.gov/107/plaws/publ40/PLAW-107publ40.pdf
You: “but SecWar Pete was authorized by a post that POTUS made while gakked out on addy at 2:30 one morning.” |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:40 PM Author: Canary high-end elastic band shrine Yep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471119) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:49 PM Author: Excitant toilet seat chapel Were the two survivors plausibly able to use the floating debris to mount a counterattack? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469462) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:48 AM Author: talented patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469520) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Questions that are rarely asked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49470313) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: avocado frum theater There was a risk they might recover some drugs and smuggle them into America. All of these kills are predicated on the fact that drugs are lethal. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49470321) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 12:57 AM Author: avocado frum theater I do not believe, based on the facts in the Post story, that Bradley could have relied on Hegseth’s order—even if Hegseth formally ordered the second strike. The prohibition on targeting a disabled combatant is so clear that Bradley had a duty, in the words of 18.22.4 of the Manual, “to refuse to comply with clearly illegal orders to commit violations of the law of war.”
https://www.execfunctions.org/p/a-dishonorable-strike?r=4xo6yq&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault (Hegseth's new lawyer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49470314) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: avocado frum theater lol this doesn't exonerate Hegseth at all, it just implicates Bradley. Thank god you're not a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471314) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 11:00 AM Author: hairraiser potus roast beef good link. i'd like to see a reply. waterboarding isn't torture. etc i do like how you screeching faggot libs only care about the rule of order when it suits you |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:10 AM Author: charismatic quadroon Lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469543) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: vivacious toaster ceo If it was struck by an air strike, then it’s not a war crime. “Combatants” cannot surrender to an aircraft and can be legally killed even when they appear to be surrendering. There were several cases in the Iraq war where Iraqis threw down their weapons and put their hands in the air and were still killed via hellfire missile or 40mm grenades because they couldn’t be taken into custody by the Apache helicopters they were trying to surrender to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469746) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 1:46 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Chat says you're applying a real rule incorrectly:
“If attacked from the air, you can kill them even after the initial strike.” — No. This is unlawful
Even in a full, declared armed conflict:
The moment individuals are:
out of the fight,
incapacitated,
shipwrecked,
drowning,
wounded,
thrown into the sea,
or otherwise unable to resist,
…they become hors de combat, and it is absolutely prohibited to kill them.
This is not optional. This is Article 41 of Additional Protocol I (customary even for states not party) and long-standing customary law.
Shipwrecked persons get special protection under Article 12 of Geneva Convention II. They are to be rescued and protected, not attacked.
✔ The doctrine that "combatants cannot surrender to aircraft" exists — but it is narrow. ❌ It does not justify killing incapacitated survivors. ❌ It does not apply to people in the water. ❌ It does not erase war-crime liability for airstrikes.
If the described second strike occurred, it would violate IHL in almost any legal framing. |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:22 PM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water this is incorrect
if they can’t reasonably be taken into custody then they are not hors de combat |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault That response misunderstands the law. It mixes two different concepts and applies the rule for surrender to the completely separate rule for being hors de combat. In LOAC, these are not interchangeable. Let me break it down in a way that’s airtight. ✅ 1. “Cannot be taken into custody” is relevant ONLY to surrender, NOT to hors de combat Surrender rule (voluntary submission): A person is considered to have surrendered only if: They clearly express an intention to surrender, and The opposing forces accept that surrender. Aircraft often cannot accept surrender — so the law lets aircraft continue engaging. This doctrine applies ONLY to whether surrender has successfully been communicated. ✅ 2. Hors de combat is a TOTALLY different rule A person becomes hors de combat if ANY of the following are true (under Additional Protocol I, Art. 41 and customary IHL): They are unconscious or incapacitated by wounds They have clearly been rendered defenseless They are shipwrecked (Geneva Convention II, Art. 12) They are detained or otherwise unable to fight NONE of these depend on whether the attacker can take them into custody. The test is about: their physical condition, their capacity to fight, and whether they are defenseless. Not about whether a helicopter or aircraft is capable of arresting them. |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: vivacious toaster ceo Your AI chatbot is parroting journalists and ignoring longstanding US martial jurisprudence. Journalists hate it, but combatants attempting to surrender to an aircraft remain legitimate targets and the US, the UK, and others have been killing them on camera for at least 20 years. Its at the commander’s discretion as to whether they accept it or not.
https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2011-05-23/us-apache-guns-down-surrendering-insurgents
On February 22 2007, a US helicopter engaged a group of insurgents involved in a mortar attack upon coalition forces, near Baghdad.
After firing a series of 30mm rounds, the crew of the helicopter – callsign “Crazyhorse” – radioed to their command, stating the insurgents “wanted to surrender”. The response was blunt: “CRAZYHORSE cleared to engage … Lawyer stated they cannot surrender to aircraft.”
The Apache crew killed the men. |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault The chatbot put it in all caps and you’re still not clocking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471399) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:40 AM Author: vivacious toaster ceo This was my favorite take, international law in a nutshell: “According to Bruderlein, if the allegations are correct, both the crew of the helicopter and the officer who cleared them to engage, would be guilty of war crimes. The lawyer who offered the legal advice would, he believes, not be guilty.”
Lawyers are blameless lol. |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:15 AM Author: ocher harsh philosopher-king Rest of the link seems to assert the lawyer basically Made It Up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471662) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: vivacious toaster ceo The rest of the article makes clear the bruderlein guy is an idiot. He takes takes a phrase, passed secondhand and abbreviated for time sensitivity and radio communication, as the entirety of the legal argument. No one was prosecuted for war crimes for any of the incidents mentione. Nor, as far as I know, were they disciplined in any way.
The guy is Canadian, btw. |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:01 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water guess what? the shipwrecked rule only applies to COMBATANTS, which these narco terrorists are not
pwned
https://x.com/briancox_rltw/status/1994943625646747794 |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472525) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:06 AM Author: Bonkers orange internal respiration trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473478) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:49 AM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault I'm the one who posted that that was the best argument against this being a war crime. But if it's not a war crime then it's just regular murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473652) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:33 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water you know what the actual best part is?
the second strike never even happened |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:10 AM Author: Turquoise zippy location karate More retarded lib pearl clutching (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49469763) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:32 PM Author: avocado frum theater Absolutely no one is defending Hegseth.
No one. |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:42 PM Author: Fragrant crotch skinny woman they're not whores de combat, they're not even de combat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471051) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: avocado frum theater Yeah it's plain vanilla murder, we've known that for over 24 hours. ljl@ your fake troll ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471060) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: Fragrant crotch skinny woman I'm hors de troll, you can't flame me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471067) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: avocado frum theater Everyone believes you're real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471082) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:33 PM Author: coiffed property therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471113) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: 180 walnut trust fund love of her life Nope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471084) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:18 PM Author: diverse knife Cannot be compelled to care about drug smugglers but based upon the people screeching most loudly (who are the same people who have been screeching loudly nearly continuously about something or other since GWB), I’m going to say that this is lib pearl-clutching. Lmao, but the rights of the smugglers! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471095) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 8:47 PM Author: Bistre titillating dragon For those saying this is a war crime, if Obama had drone striked Bin Laden, and then saw Bin Laden limping away in the wreckage, would that mean that Obama couldn't have sent in another drone strike?
It all seems a little silly... |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:05 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker We used to regularly "double tap" in Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan, etc. This involved hitting a target, waiting for civilian rescue services to arrive and then hit them too. Yeah, what was described in the OP was probably a war crime too but we commit so many of them so regularly that idk that this is where something will happen for anything other than purely political purposes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471160) |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: vivacious toaster ceo That’s not what “double tapping” was/is, and the US never engaged in that.
Double tapping was the practice of shooting enemy corpses as you approached them to ensure they were dead and not just faking it to ambush you. The term was derived from the practice of shooting your enemy twice in the chest to guarantee a mortal wound. A bunch of uppity liberals got pissed and tried to make shooting the enemy a crime, and now there are a bunch of bullshit rules about when and how you can shoot a disabled enemy the irony is that because of the “double tapping is a war crime” crowd, it became standard practice to shoot all the enemies you came across before you walked past them just to ensure you didn’t get pinged for a war crime. |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:41 AM Author: orchid fiercely-loyal keepsake machete (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471436) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:50 AM Author: Canary high-end elastic band shrine Outted as someone who never served. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471445) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:53 AM Author: vivacious toaster ceo I’ve poasted pictures of my CIB and Ranger Tab multiple times on this boart. You, on the other hand, probably never made it out of BCT (but still brag about serving to smelly bar sluts) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473750) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker Wrong on all of that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap_strike
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:31 AM Author: multi-colored mad-dog skullcap electric furnace lol at this citing a law review article
A Florida Law Review article argued that the practice likely is a war crime since it grossly violates the Geneva Conventions of 1949, which prohibit targeting civilians, the wounded, and those no longer able to continue fighting.[5] |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:56 AM Author: vivacious toaster ceo “Double tapping is actually a reference only to secondary strikes, and those strikes are exclusively about targeting civil rescue personnel” *cites source that says the exact opposite*
Each of the US-relevant links states they were targeting combatants and then criticizes them for collateral damage. |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:30 AM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker https://web.archive.org/web/20150508215824/http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes/
"on six occasions, to have deliberately targeted people going to rescue victims and retrieve the dead from the scene of an earlier attack – a tactic also known as a ‘double-tap’ strike."
Not sure what you're arguing. No one is providing the definition you gave and the point is that this isn't just collateral damage but rather a second later strike specifically to kill the rescue resources. What is the resource that says "the exact opposite?" |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:33 PM Author: vivacious toaster ceo Here is what a double tap is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap_(shooting_technique)
Your “double tap drone strike” terminology is derived from that.
In the Iraq War, some faggy jagoffs tried to claim that the second shot in a double tap was a war crime because the first shot disabled the enemy. We were banned from using the term “double tap” when writing AARs or giving SITREPs, and instead had to use the phrase “controlled pair”.
What I’m arguing is that America does not, and has not, engaged in deliberately baiting firefighters or ambulances or other humanitarians to an area just so they can execute them. You would have to be retarded to think that would be US doctrine. The “opposite” I’m referring to is that the rationales provided by the US are clearly indicate they are striking combatants, not that they are trying to kill civilian rescuers, which is what your definition of double tap includes.
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Date: December 1st, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water he is retarded, because he’s a russian Jew who supports double tapping Ukrainian police/firefighters and wants to make it seem like we do this too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49474696) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:25 AM Author: curious sanctuary halford "But we did it a million times before!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471417) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:37 AM Author: arousing senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471430) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:52 AM Author: Canary high-end elastic band shrine "But they had drugs in the boat!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471446) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker Right. Which is exactly why this is fake outrage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472892) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:31 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water this is what russia does
why would the U.S. want to destroy civilian services that they were paying for? |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 6:58 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker It turns out that everyone does this. The US doesn't pay for everyone's civilian services. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472902) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 1:25 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water no, russians are especially depraved
they did it in Syria and now in Ukraine. cuz liking women and children in their sleep isn’t enough for you mongrels, gotta get the first responders too |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:26 AM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker So the CIA is a Russian org? https://web.archive.org/web/20150508215824/http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/08/01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes/
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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: coiffed property therapy hitting civilian rescue services is a war crime yeah, so if obama did it, it's bad. in the situations in pakistan where he bombed funerals he was hitting active combatants with collateral damage of civilians/rescue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473014) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker The "double tap" involves a delayed second attack so that rescue workers and resources arrive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473419) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:36 PM Author: grizzly gaping stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473436) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:43 PM Author: coiffed property therapy i can't find any verification for that outside your assertion itt. if you're hitting additional combatants that come to the aid of those hit in the first strike, maybe it's lawful. if you're hitting nothing but medics and civilian health workers it's probably a war crime (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473444) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Cyan Wonderful Center Candlestick Maker Really? Am I the only one who has heard about double tap strikes for literally decades? This was GW Bush era shit that managed to get worse under Obama.
Right, but from what I've seen it is generally the latter. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:37 AM Author: .,,.....,.,.,.,:,,:,,.:,:::.,,.,:,.,.::.:.,:.::,. you mean the Islamic terrorist we tossed off a boat into the ocean instead of allowing burial and Islamic burial customs? the guy we ripped out of his home and killed everyone else inside?
i can't believe how dumb libs are being about this. i have a lot of stuff i don't like that the Trump admin is doing but holy shit why are libs so fucking retarded. stop opposing everything no matter what just because it wasn't done by your side and trying to find some gotcha angle. that's failed since 2016, and failed hard since 2021. now you want to try to hang your hat on "international law"? LOLOLOL
you need Fetterman to take the floor and say "You know, fuck them, they are enemies of our country the same as any invading army. Stop being pussies." |
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Date: November 29th, 2025 9:06 PM Author: Abnormal Hairless Resort Probably but who cares? War crimes are for the other people. The UN/ICC and any other international org can fuck right off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471162) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:37 AM Author: arousing senate "If the U.S. military operation is not an armed conflict of any kind, these orders to kill helpless civilians clinging to the wreckage of a vessel our military destroyed would subject everyone from SECDEF down to the individual who pulled the trigger to prosecution under U.S. law for murder."
https://x.com/gtconway3d/status/1994990468472426924?s=20 |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:42 AM Author: navy wrinkle codepig not even Israel would do this shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471437) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 12:53 AM Author: Canary high-end elastic band shrine I'm coming around to the view that all 80 killings were murder, but killing the wounded also violated international law. If there was legal justification for killing even one person we would have heard it by now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471447) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:06 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471459) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:34 AM Author: curious sanctuary halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471493) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:54 AM Author: avocado frum theater That's what I interpret the Washington Post to be saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471525) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:36 AM Author: Marvelous painfully honest business firm regret Wow violated international law?? That's the highest law there is! Higher than the constitution! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471672) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:11 AM Author: Bonkers orange internal respiration trailer park (guy who flunked out of intergalactic law 401) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473480) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 1:26 AM Author: demanding step-uncle's house digit ratio Whatever it was AZNgirls will always find Handsome Hegseth innocent and demand that he blow up their pussies
But Heggie is definitely burning in hell and I cld imagine him never finding another jerb again and joining OnlyFans |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 8:07 AM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault He would crush it on only fans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49471652) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:59 AM Author: avocado frum theater “Kill them all” is a confession to murder under American law.
https://x.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1995145793393795246?t=tRvTiHtzUPiMTa7Iedic-g&s=19 |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: avocado frum theater So the new shitcon consensus is that Hegseth committed crimes, but should not be punished. Cons aren't even trying to argue the killings were lawful, they're just saying we should leave Hegseth ALONE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472605) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:08 PM Author: flirting feces piazza The consensus is that you and all other shitlibs should be rounded up and used for target practice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472919) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: Trip parlor Hows this going libs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49472923) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 10:18 PM Author: avocado frum theater Update: Hegseth said he never gave the kill order. LOL@ RSF blowing a gasket over this nothingburger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473301) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:30 PM Author: Laughsome cowardly menage police squad yes obviously. he'll be pardoned by Trump though. Dems will still make his life hell when Newsom is elected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473422) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:16 AM Author: Salmon generalized bond set Send him to The Hague then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473486) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:37 PM Author: bossy irate hunting ground Yes and I don't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473439) |
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Date: November 30th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: avocado frum theater Why are Hegseth defenders claiming Hegseth gave the order? Hegseth himself says he never gave it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473440) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:42 AM Author: avocado frum theater Hegseth is now pretending he never said “kill them all,” which basically dumps every one of those double-tap killers into the line of fire. He’s implying those service members carried out illegal orders, tossing their careers, their honour, and their freedom under the bus to save his own ass.
https://x.com/SkylineReport/status/1995216101916176546?t=4qazSz6g8OzWKG9D8bnwqA&s=19 |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 6:51 AM Author: Rebellious hyperventilating ticket booth double fault Curious choice to deny it. They're all going in front of Congress soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473653) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:06 AM Author: talented patrolman probably, but won't trump just pardon him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473662) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:35 AM Author: avocado frum theater We can extradite him to Venezuela and let them try him for murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473675) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 7:38 AM Author: talented patrolman that won't happen though. the dems will understandably make a spectacle/issue of this, but he's never going to suffer consequences even if it is determined that he committed a war crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473676) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:09 AM Author: avocado frum theater Like you know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473691) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:51 PM Author: talented patrolman right, one just can't tell from observing the way our govt has operated the last 70 or so years. you just can't tell! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49474303) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:05 AM Author: Crusty Stage Water Buffalo Lmao at how desperate libs are getting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473688) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:40 AM Author: .,,.....,.,.,.,:,,:,,.:,:::.,,.,:,.,.::.:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49479237) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:44 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range There's a difference between hors de combat and trying to survive clinging to an attacked ship flotsam. The latter is not hors de combat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473734) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:51 AM Author: avocado frum theater Ok, if you say so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473745) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:55 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range I do. But it is still considered dishonorable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473753) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:57 AM Author: avocado frum theater You're the expert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473759) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:01 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range I'm my expert opinion most law people relying on AI and sneaky professors with a Marxist agenda will point to hundreds of military manuals explicitly calling firing on shipwrecked survivors as a war crime and that jet are hors de combat. But if you look deeper there is clear distinction in them that survivors actually must still be hors de combat and incapable of further attack to receive protections. As good textualists we all know this clarifying point wouldn't be necessary if it's taken at face value that all shipwrecked are incapable of continuing combat functions. Some say it is, but I say those people are poor lawyers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473765) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:02 AM Author: avocado frum theater tl; dr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473766) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range Am gay. Can host (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473770) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:05 AM Author: avocado frum theater You seem like an emotional woman. Are you a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473771) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:06 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range Yes. In fact IHL is something of a speciality of mine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473772) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:07 AM Author: avocado frum theater Why not just say "no I'm not a lawyer?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473773) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:08 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range I'm a faggy gay lawyer tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473774) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:09 AM Author: avocado frum theater No you're not. Why are you lying? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473778) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:10 AM Author: Opaque Self-absorbed Range I'm a lawyer! I'll out lawyer anybody! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473779) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 9:11 AM Author: avocado frum theater You're being sarcastic because you're not a lawyer. Why lie about that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473782) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Swashbuckling boiling water until we see video it should be assumed that the libs made this one up whole cloth
surviving a hellfire strike? doubtful
clinging to burning wreckage in the open seas? laughable |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 8:57 AM Author: avocado frum theater Why do you still poast under this account? Who do you think you're fooling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473760) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 10:31 AM Author: Marvelous painfully honest business firm regret cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49473959) |
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Date: December 1st, 2025 12:32 PM Author: avocado frum theater This is a TDNW-free subthread now. RSF won't explain why he still uses that account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5803903&forum_id=2id.#49474242) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:02 AM Author: .,,.....,.,.,.,:,,:,,.:,:::.,,.,:,.,.::.:.,:.::,. this is so ridiculous. Cartels brutally torture people, and have made their own governments their bitch, for the last several decades. we know China and other nation states are providing precursors specifically to destabilize us through the cartels. these aren't other countries playing by the "rules of war."
we're not bombing children like Israel. these are drug smugglers on a boat full of drugs in the middle of the Caribbean. if they're State sponsored and want to invoke international treaties about "war crimes" then step up. otherwise, yes, kill them all. |
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Date: December 3rd, 2025 4:20 AM Author: .,,.....,.,.,.,:,,:,,.:,:::.,,.,:,.,.::.:.,:.::,. i can't believe people are actually opposed to this. we have the most powerful military in the world, and very well funded and extremely brutal people sponsored by either nation states directly or indirectly are bringing in heavy drugs specifically to destabilize us or to extract money from us, and people are handwringing over blowing up a boat filled with drugs and killing everyone on board? there was absolutely no chance anyone on that boat was innocent. but let's go further, what if, maybe, some guy brought his girlfriend on board and she didn't really know what she was getting into. so what? this is a boat traveling through international waters on the way to our coast with a bunch of criminals associated with a large criminal organization and full of drugs.
i have things i don't like about Trump or this administration but this isn't one of them. libs, you are picking the wrong battles. |