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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
zippy dashing native
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/17/25
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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/17/25
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zippy dashing native
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Insane Nibblets
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
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Insane Nibblets
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Cerebral incel church building
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Boyish cumskin cuckoldry
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
zippy dashing native
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Godawful locus
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zippy dashing native
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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
soggy degenerate
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
clear jew
  12/17/25
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zippy dashing native
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soggy degenerate
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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
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Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Yapping filthy partner
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: zippy dashing native

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: zippy dashing native



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Insane Nibblets

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Insane Nibblets



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Cerebral incel church building

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Boyish cumskin cuckoldry

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: zippy dashing native

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Godawful locus

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: zippy dashing native



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: soggy degenerate

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: clear jew

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: zippy dashing native



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: soggy degenerate



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Swashbuckling honey-headed principal's office



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Fragrant Crusty Brunch Old Irish Cottage

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Yapping filthy partner

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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