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Date: October 13th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: aromatic chapel
I got a call from HR. I was a bit unnerved but not really, seemed inconceivable there’d be an issue, I still get along great with her and we haven’t missed a beat. Only strange thing is we never talk about it, instead seemed to have channeled the whole thing into actual work - late night phone calls and slacks about this or that email or thing we want to accomplish.
Anyway, turns out she asked HR about relocating to my city and they wanted to know how I feel about that. They said she’s clearly extremely engaged at work and I’m done an amazing job with the team. Wanted to laugh
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49347687) |
Date: October 14th, 2025 12:08 AM Author: vigorous toaster
promising shtick plz keep it going
hopefully we can get some work holiday party action this december
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49347709) |
Date: October 18th, 2025 4:31 PM Author: yellow bespoke elastic band skinny woman
Not a fan of this tbh
The fact the relationship has to be mediated through work is really really gay and depressing, talking about "projects" and her little quip about compliance is really deflating imo
its insane we alloweed women into the workforce this is a giant retarded scam
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49358194)
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:10 AM Author: pearly lay
"Or maybe even her feeling like I’m not pushing hard enough for a comp adjustment and wondering if it’s because I want to avoid appearance of favoring her. A rival getting something she wants."
Yes, probably more likely. Same result for you. "Rage Problems denied me the compensation adjustment I merited because I refused to continue the brief affair he coercively forced upon me." "Rage Problems is giving favorable treatment in work assignments to a co-worker because I refused to continue the brief affair he coercively forced upon me." If she's a very ambitious, intelligent lawyer, she's going to realize that you handed her the ability to coast at her job, shielded from any criticism, then leave with a 24 month severance package offered by HR to shut her up. This will be a "resignation" to avoid any career stigma to her, then she'll just move onto the next role with a couple hundred grand in her pocket. I work in this area, this is how these stories play out. Seems you are betting on "spurned female lawyer logically accepts affair was a bad idea, will not use it to her advantage, and fastidiously refocuses herself in a business-like way on company goals", good luck buddy
At this point your best move may actually be to bang her again, ensuring you have many messages making explicitly clear the whole thing is/was consensual, otherwise she's possibly going to say you raped her in that hotel room
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49361233) |
Date: October 19th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: White wagecucks
Your age and hers?
Your total comp and hers?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49360617) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:58 AM Author: Chrome Beady-eyed Ape Trailer Park
this could potentially go very wrong for you.
i think you described elsewhere, but how often do you have sex with your wife? you might want to focus on shoring that up (if there's an issue) there and gently disengage from this situation
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49361426)
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Date: October 25th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Opaque charismatic boiling water
Most boring flame in years. The most explicit
You've gotten is one sexcapade with blood.
So hurry up and just go on a bender
Destroying what's left of your marriage now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49373634) |
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Date: October 29th, 2025 4:01 PM Author: tripping address immigrant
"whatever it is we are doing"
lol @ this level of self-denial
180
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49385434) |
Date: November 2nd, 2025 11:38 AM Author: overrated territorial house coffee pot
Describe her cans and panties
This is a middle aged law shrew who's given birth multiple times? What are we working with here?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49395174) |
Date: November 3rd, 2025 7:34 AM Author: Chrome Beady-eyed Ape Trailer Park
OP, you are in a difficult position. you mentioned going cold turkey upthread. that would be a bad idea, as you correctly pointed out. she could go sideways on you and blow the whistle to your company.
the best path forward would be for you to have a frank convo with her where you shower her with praise and tell her that in another life, you two could have been great together, or some such shit, but that you both have too much to lose. be sure to compliment her, and tell her that you guys have to go back to a professional working relationship.
i can tell you probably won't do that, though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49397120) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 10:03 AM Author: overrated territorial house coffee pot
Yes it could happen to any of us. I have cheated before in LTRs. Both times I felt guilty, realized I didn't like the new chick as much as my gf, broke it off and went back to my old lady like nothing happened (never got caught).
It's tough and I worry about my ability to remain loyal long term. My troon friend told me that to straight guys women are like chocolate bars: the only thing better than one chocolate bar is two chocolate bars.
Deep down I'm addicted to females and it's bad news. I don't know what to do. Imagine being Dave Grohl and you're a famous rock star and you could fuck around on your wife all the time but you don't, you've been good, you don't do anything silly but then you hit middle age and you fall in love with a temp and wind up knocking her up. I mean, what can we as men do? We can only run so fast.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49397402) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 11:02 AM Author: up-to-no-good sneaky criminal
just remember that this woman will eventually become critical and more difficult to be around too if you started a seeing her. this is just the nature of relationships. you're in the honeymoon phase with your subordinate. every romantic relationship feels electric and exciting at first. if that spark wasn't there no romance would have occurred.
zurich is right that you need to begin distancing yourself from her exactly the way he described. given enough time this will eventually ruin your life. woman are very bad at cheating and eventually her husband will find out, and then she'll go into accountability avoidance mode and it's not hard to craft a plausible excuse about you using your power to manipulate her, etc.
i condemn cheating but it's a common sin and easy to understand how people falter. the longer it goes on the more intentional the betrayal becomes, which is bad for your own soul. try to come to your senses soon and let her down gently before she starts getting even more attached. given enough time the odds of this ruining your life approach 100%. you're at the crossroads of when you can break it off and likely never have any consequences.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49397518) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 1:17 PM Author: up-to-no-good sneaky criminal
because it's fresh.
most of the time people cheat, come to their senses, and break it off before any damage is done. it's just that the only time it becomes public knowledge is when it blows up. the fact the subordinate is married and a responsible professional significantly reduces the chances this blows up immediately. usually that happens when the woman is single and wants to become the wife. chances are she also doesn't really want to blow up her life and is just getting off on seducing her boss (a fantasy all women have, another reason they are unsuitable for the workplace). eventually they'll humanize each other and the rush that comes from a new relationship fades as they see each other's faults and their fantasy collapses.
op seems like a good guy and just poasting anonymously about something interesting and because he probably has no other outlet to safely express his excitement. hopefully he gets it out of his system quick.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49397924) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 1:14 PM Author: Chestnut degenerate
Yeah, the OP is clearly aware that this is a stupid idea, but it is obvious he is not going to stop. Telling him that this is a stupid idea is not going to accomplish anything.
At this point, you need to go into harm reduction mode. Get a Google Voice number or (better yet) a second cell number yesterday. Use only that number when you communicate about the affair from now on. Aside from the obvious benefit of making it less likely that your wife finds out, it also gives you plausible deniability if she ever reports you to your job. "Yeah, she came onto me once, but I said I only wanted a professional relationship. She must have sent all those texts to a friend to try to get revenge on me, because that's not my number." Also, if you get a chance to go through your wife's phone, preemptively block the side chick's number in case she ever does try to tell your wife. You can never be 100% certain that shit won't hit the fan, but you can greatly reduce the risk by not being a moron.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49397911) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2025 9:14 PM Author: Chrome Beady-eyed Ape Trailer Park
he also knows how things worked out for me - i got locked up for punching my mistress in her face, and another time the cops carted me off to teh loony bin after i cut myself (and, lmao, i was shoving her face into the litterbox and telling her to eat cat shit. sorry, but that is funny).
my life unraveled. i defied the odds and got my life back together, but that's obviously unlikely.
then there's your situation. billy buttfucker. many such cases here.
i fear he will go ahead with this anyway.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49399406) |
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Date: November 6th, 2025 1:54 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49406323) |
Date: November 6th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Rage Problems
Things continue to progress. We text first thing and talk until late. She joked last night that we will get bored soon and it will fade out. I said not sure, but yeah maybe tomorrow. Today, I said well if we get bored there’s always sexting. She said that gives me serious anxiety vibes. I said no worries won’t mention again. She said please if I try you have to stop me. I said so I’m the one responsible. She said “always.” I said you have an accountability problem. She said yes, none of the risk and all of the pleasure.
Later, we were on a call with another exec. The guy is embarrassingly awkward. We couldn’t help but texting during it. I had to laugh so hard I went off camera. He kept mentioning dates we could do these and coordinate. Not sure how this guy can talk for an hour without saying anything. I went back on camera and I’m like but if he fucking starts droning on again about dates I’m going off camera. Literally immediately starred to. I shut it down and I see her just blushing hard, lighting up on camera, hand over face trying not to laugh.
Fuck
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49407864) |
Date: November 8th, 2025 8:03 AM Author: Rage Problems
I was pissed about something after work last night. I went to a bar and was chatting with her. Wife wanted to get dinner. She told me to text her after dinner. Wife looked at my phone during dinner and I was sweating bullets that she might text. Dinner wrapped up around 10pm and I told my wife I was going for a walk to get some drinks. I got caught up chatting with coworker and just went to a bar instead. Ended up being out until 3am, had to plug my phone in at the bar to keep chatting. Wife blew up my phone late saying I’m a huge alcoholic and how I’m not supportive and just a huge rant. She’s pissed today.
Coworker said her husband also has asked her if she needs to consider whether she has a drinking problem because she keeps staying up alone late drinking and talking to me.
Otherwise, she has a friend who claims to be psychic. She sent her a bunch of pictures on my team. She said the feedback for me was not positive but didn’t say much about it. At the end of the night she screenshotted the message and it was her friend saying “Cheater”.
I probably need to cool this down soon before it blows up. Someone at work will notice our vibes even if it isn’t our partners, who for now both just think we’re degenerate alcoholics or something
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49411971) |
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Date: November 8th, 2025 6:23 PM
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JFC you are still texting her via your standard text messages on your phone? Are you a fucking moron who wants to get caught? Once again, bare minimum, switch to Google Voice (or some other texting app) and hide/passcode lock the app on your phone. Better yet, get a burner phone for cheating. You can free service via Helium Mobile if you text mainly (or exclusively) via WiFi. Are you honestly going to risk losing half your assets because you are too fucking cheap to buy a burner phone? If you are going to cheat, use at least some basic opsec.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49413135) |
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Date: November 9th, 2025 12:28 PM
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Dude, if you want to blow up your marriage for this chick, just get a fucking divorce and start dating her. Because when you are texting this chick using your normal texting app and then letting your wife see your phone, you are either mind-blowingly stupid or you want to get caught. And if it's the latter, I can almost guarantee that divorce court will go better for you if you file for divorce preemptively rather than wait for her to file because you got caught cheating. In my state, alimony is mandatory if the higher-earning spouse gets caught cheating. Even if your state doesn't have a comparable law on the books, most judges are not going to look favorably on a cheating piece of shit that was too insensitive (or dumb) to download Google Voice.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786259&forum_id=2id.#49414253) |
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