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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
nighttime parlour toilet seat
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
nighttime parlour toilet seat
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
nighttime parlour toilet seat
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Big Useless Brakes Dragon
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
nighttime parlour toilet seat
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
insane pontificating stock car
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
nighttime parlour toilet seat
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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
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insane pontificating stock car
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
hyperactive casino
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
insane pontificating stock car
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hyperactive casino
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Territorial Bipolar Hall Bbw
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
irradiated french chef school
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ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
insane pontificating stock car
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
electric maroon love of her life
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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
concupiscible roommate spot
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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insane pontificating stock car
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concupiscible roommate spot
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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
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Big Useless Brakes Dragon
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
nighttime parlour toilet seat
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Hyperventilating Church
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: hyperactive casino

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: hyperactive casino



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Territorial Bipolar Hall Bbw

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: irradiated french chef school

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: electric maroon love of her life

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: insane pontificating stock car



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: concupiscible roommate spot

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: lascivious drunken abode feces

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: insane pontificating stock car



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: concupiscible roommate spot



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Big Useless Brakes Dragon



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: nighttime parlour toilet seat

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Hyperventilating Church

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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