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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Floppy round eye
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
18000
Floppy round eye
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Exciting Den
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Exciting Den
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Exciting Den
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Floppy round eye
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Exciting Den
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Exciting Den
  12/17/25
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Floppy round eye
  12/17/25
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Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
Milky unhinged gaping blood rage
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
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Milky unhinged gaping blood rage
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
flatulent location stain
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
impertinent rambunctious lodge
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Charcoal legend mad cow disease
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
topaz jew office
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Charcoal legend mad cow disease
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Floppy round eye
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
glittery hospital rigor
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
drunken depressive
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Charcoal legend mad cow disease
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glittery hospital rigor
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Floppy round eye
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Floppy round eye
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Exciting Den
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
cerise pontificating chapel
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Floppy round eye



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Floppy round eye

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Exciting Den

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Exciting Den

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Exciting Den

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Floppy round eye

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Exciting Den

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Exciting Den

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Floppy round eye



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Milky unhinged gaping blood rage

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Milky unhinged gaping blood rage



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: flatulent location stain

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: impertinent rambunctious lodge

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: topaz jew office

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Floppy round eye



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: glittery hospital rigor

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: drunken depressive

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Charcoal legend mad cow disease



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: glittery hospital rigor



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Floppy round eye



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Floppy round eye



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Exciting Den

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2id.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: cerise pontificating chapel

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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