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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
180
Angry center idiot
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
much more than that
supple chestnut sanctuary
  11/09/25
anal rape?
hateful brunch keepsake machete
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
180 effete juggernaut business firm
  11/09/25
...
maize stead sound barrier
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Angry center idiot
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
mustard prole
  11/09/25
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aromatic very tactful boiling water
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Bonkers vivacious principal's office
  11/09/25
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Angry center idiot
  11/09/25
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multi-colored nubile water buffalo hunting ground
  11/09/25
cr he blows
brilliant hairraiser puppy
  11/09/25
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wonderful church
  11/09/25
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wonderful church
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Twinkling exciting stage
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
underhanded whorehouse goyim
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
aggressive beady-eyed elastic band
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
aggressive beady-eyed elastic band
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
excitant plum den persian
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
shaky nibblets
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Henna overrated locale
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Dashing hospital
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
underhanded whorehouse goyim
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
excitant plum den persian
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
brilliant hairraiser puppy
  11/09/25
*destroying
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
supple chestnut sanctuary
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
brilliant hairraiser puppy
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
supple chestnut sanctuary
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Alcoholic state
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
vengeful lay legend
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
Jews maf
excitant plum den persian
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
aggressive beady-eyed elastic band
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
aggressive beady-eyed elastic band
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
brilliant hairraiser puppy
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Henna overrated locale
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
vengeful lay legend
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Wine stain
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Wine stain
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Henna overrated locale
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/09/25
lol
Wine stain
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
razzmatazz disgusting orchestra pit psychic
  11/09/25
...
excitant plum den persian
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Appetizing death wish
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
underhanded whorehouse goyim
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
brilliant hairraiser puppy
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Dashing hospital
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
vengeful lay legend
  11/09/25
...
maize stead sound barrier
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Abnormal ticket booth
  11/10/25
...
excitant plum den persian
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
boyish home
  11/10/25
lol
passionate crystalline private investor
  11/10/25
Lmao
Alcoholic state
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Angry center idiot

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: supple chestnut sanctuary

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: hateful brunch keepsake machete

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: 180 effete juggernaut business firm

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: maize stead sound barrier



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Angry center idiot

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: mustard prole

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: aromatic very tactful boiling water



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Bonkers vivacious principal's office

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Angry center idiot



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: multi-colored nubile water buffalo hunting ground



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: brilliant hairraiser puppy

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: wonderful church



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: wonderful church



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Twinkling exciting stage

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: underhanded whorehouse goyim

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: aggressive beady-eyed elastic band

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: aggressive beady-eyed elastic band

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: excitant plum den persian

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: shaky nibblets

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Henna overrated locale

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Dashing hospital

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: underhanded whorehouse goyim

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: excitant plum den persian

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: brilliant hairraiser puppy

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: supple chestnut sanctuary

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: brilliant hairraiser puppy

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: supple chestnut sanctuary

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Alcoholic state

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: vengeful lay legend

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: excitant plum den persian

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: aggressive beady-eyed elastic band

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: aggressive beady-eyed elastic band

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: brilliant hairraiser puppy

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Henna overrated locale

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: vengeful lay legend

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Wine stain

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Wine stain

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Henna overrated locale

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Wine stain

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz disgusting orchestra pit psychic

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: excitant plum den persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Appetizing death wish

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: underhanded whorehouse goyim

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: brilliant hairraiser puppy

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Dashing hospital

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: vengeful lay legend

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: maize stead sound barrier



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Abnormal ticket booth

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: excitant plum den persian



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: boyish home

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: passionate crystalline private investor

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Alcoholic state

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416774)