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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Talented stage
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Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio
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they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Talented stage
  11/09/25
much more than that
Tantric rehab
  11/09/25
anal rape?
shaky exciting jap therapy
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Shimmering stead gunner
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...
spectacular internet-worthy legal warrant house
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Passionate Gay Stock Car
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Vermilion Exhilarant Persian
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Talented stage
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Impertinent blathering trump supporter elastic band
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Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio
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Idiotic high-end site police squad
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cr he blows
provocative offensive nibblets
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narrow-minded becky black woman
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narrow-minded becky black woman
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Cleveland *Indians*
Territorial School
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
costumed puce legend
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im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
judgmental pearl idea he suggested
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
judgmental pearl idea he suggested
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
floppy wrinkle
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
wild dragon
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Sable bawdyhouse
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
costumed puce legend
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
provocative offensive nibblets
  11/09/25
*destroying
Talented stage
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Tantric rehab
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
provocative offensive nibblets
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Tantric rehab
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
hilarious organic girlfriend kitty
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
jet bbw volcanic crater
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How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
Jews maf
razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
judgmental pearl idea he suggested
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Talented stage
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
judgmental pearl idea he suggested
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
provocative offensive nibblets
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
wild dragon
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
jet bbw volcanic crater
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
useless ocher gaping trust fund
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
useless ocher gaping trust fund
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
wild dragon
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Talented stage
  11/09/25
lol
useless ocher gaping trust fund
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
maroon startled temple
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...
razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
irradiated prole striped hyena
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
costumed puce legend
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
provocative offensive nibblets
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anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Sable bawdyhouse
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I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
jet bbw volcanic crater
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spectacular internet-worthy legal warrant house
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lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Talented stage
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razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Histrionic background story
  11/10/25
lol
Snowy diverse state
  11/10/25
Lmao
hilarious organic girlfriend kitty
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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Talented stage

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Talented stage

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Tantric rehab

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: shaky exciting jap therapy

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Shimmering stead gunner

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: spectacular internet-worthy legal warrant house



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Passionate Gay Stock Car

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Vermilion Exhilarant Persian



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Talented stage

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Impertinent blathering trump supporter elastic band

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Vivacious Up-to-no-good Digit Ratio



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Idiotic high-end site police squad



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: provocative offensive nibblets

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: narrow-minded becky black woman



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: narrow-minded becky black woman



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Territorial School

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: costumed puce legend

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: judgmental pearl idea he suggested

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Talented stage

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: judgmental pearl idea he suggested

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: wild dragon

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Sable bawdyhouse

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: costumed puce legend

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: provocative offensive nibblets

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Talented stage

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Tantric rehab

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: provocative offensive nibblets

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Tantric rehab

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: hilarious organic girlfriend kitty

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Talented stage

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: jet bbw volcanic crater

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Talented stage

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: judgmental pearl idea he suggested

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Talented stage

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: judgmental pearl idea he suggested

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: provocative offensive nibblets

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: wild dragon

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: jet bbw volcanic crater

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: useless ocher gaping trust fund

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Talented stage

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: useless ocher gaping trust fund

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: wild dragon

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Talented stage

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Talented stage

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: useless ocher gaping trust fund

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: maroon startled temple

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: irradiated prole striped hyena

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: costumed puce legend

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: provocative offensive nibblets

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Sable bawdyhouse

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: jet bbw volcanic crater

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: spectacular internet-worthy legal warrant house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Talented stage

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle zippy friendly grandma ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Histrionic background story

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Snowy diverse state

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: hilarious organic girlfriend kitty

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2id.#49416774)