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Favorite example of Spaceporn's stupidity and stubbornness: Blackjack Odds

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4782366&mc=2...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
It was ultimately acknowledged that I was correct.
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
jfc dude no it wasn't literally everyone in that thread was ...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
Earl almost had it right ultimately. But I was and am correc...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
so by that logic if a player is playing irrationally and sta...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
Depends on the number of hands played. But what is clear i...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
the minds are not matched
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
are you at some 1930s casino that deals blackjack face down?...
marvelous aquamarine den circlehead
  05/08/23
exactly
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
ljl
Deranged Rusted Gunner
  05/08/23
When sp gambles more information is BAD you're just not s...
laughsome ruby school cuckoldry
  05/08/23
Ljl
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Dashing Brunch
  03/13/24
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clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  03/13/24
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metal crotch
  03/13/24
*evidence proves SP flatly wrong* SP: "No, I was right....
Shivering Masturbator
  03/13/24
Amazing thread Also demonstrates a total misunderstandin...
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4782366&mc=2...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
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gold arousing trust fund
  05/08/23
I know what card counting is. The data points in the overall...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
SP and TSINAH both have a stunning ability to substitute obj...
naked shrine
  05/08/23
I think he would agree w me if he looked at it closely. ...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
This is a separate issue than the card counting. I have no k...
naked shrine
  05/08/23
Remember the book topsy turvy world? Cute book. Autoadmit is...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
When everyone around you is an asshole, you might want to lo...
Shivering Masturbator
  05/08/23
So, I know this is cognitively difficult for you, being an i...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
Lmao What an absolute fucking moron
cracking lettuce
  05/08/23
Take a statistics class at a good school.
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
So SP's argument is literally that if somebody hits when the...
Diverse Pale Office Dingle Berry
  05/08/23
Being very generous to SP, I get the idea that it could be m...
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
Well now you are talking player manners and culture. That&rs...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
Okay--can you run your argument by me one more time? For...
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
WHAT THE FUCK MAN YOU TOOK MY CARD I WOULD HAVE HAD 21 NOW I...
Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman
  05/08/23
intriguing poast moniker synergy ty
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
“You’d better play irrationally for an hour to b...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
exactly
Drab telephone
  05/08/23
yeah. but as the thread clearly says and as is oft repeat...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
The real answer is that someone with this sort of grasp of h...
curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
Ok now do charging people hundreds of dollars an hour to be ...
Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman
  05/08/23
Is that how much it breaks down to? Awesome!
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
Why is he so bad at clearly explaining his thinking?
Stirring narrow-minded home
  05/08/23
I just scribble it out. If i wrote more clearly I wouldn&r...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
Why is it rewarding to you to post a high volume of vague, c...
Stirring narrow-minded home
  05/08/23
This is still my favorite http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.p...
cordovan church building idiot
  05/08/23
spaceporn is such a 180 poaster. can you imagine him being y...
lilac aromatic school cafeteria
  05/08/23
You would need an umbrella to keep from drowning in falling ...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
Based on his google reviews it's not hard to imagine
cordovan church building idiot
  05/08/23
Lots of nice ones too. Some People always gonna fuss. Look a...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
...
Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman
  05/08/23
Holy shit LOL Incredible find. Wow hahahahahahahahhahaha
Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman
  05/08/23
You are only showing you don’t understand it. Sorry ma...
hyperactive bearded juggernaut
  05/08/23
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Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman
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spaceporn is theoretically and marginally correct in one spe...
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curious therapy piazza
  05/08/23
but the argument isn't whether other players actions affect ...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
this is all correct and why i described my poast as a theore...
trip bisexual ticket booth
  05/08/23
this is such a random thing to get in a heated argument abou...
exhilarant stead
  05/08/23
i had kind of hoped that when i poasted this sp would come i...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  05/08/23
You could give SP unlimited literature on this topic and hea...
odious theatre
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the truly astonishing thing is that sp ran in here to say &q...
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clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  03/13/24
Omg I forgot about this saga. This was soooo 180000000
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Dashing Brunch
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  03/13/24
Lol
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i am sort of obsessed with you. you're fascinating to me. i ...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  10/31/24
You need to get psychiatric treatment. I’m serious. Y...
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i will take that under advisement. does a person at a bla...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  10/31/24
Is this an iq test? Of course. Counters have to make an un...
splenetic toilet seat theater
  10/31/24
what "unexpected adjustment" must they make? card ...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  10/31/24
Not what I said bro Your mental health issues are out of...
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"Counters have to make an unexpected adjustment based o...
clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse
  10/31/24
If you had even an ounce of sanity or integrity right now yo...
splenetic toilet seat theater
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how can i agree if you won't clarify what "unexpected a...
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waiting
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Date: May 8th, 2023 11:46 AM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4782366&mc=260&forum_id=2#42066943

this was the day i finally realized spaceporn was so stupid and stubborn that he would never concede an argument even when faced with incontrovertible mathematical evidence that someone playing blackjack "wrong" does not affect other people at the table. on this fateful day spaceporn got gakked out and spent the entire day arguing with multiple poasters in multiple subthread wastelands that a person playing blackjack sub-optimally would fuck up a card counters strategy. behold the majesty, the stupidity, and the stubbornness, of our favorite 20th year shitlaw associate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284687)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 11:46 AM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

It was ultimately acknowledged that I was correct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284688)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 11:58 AM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

jfc dude no it wasn't literally everyone in that thread was saying you're wrong. how can you read that thread and think that anyone acknowledged you were correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284745)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:03 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Earl almost had it right ultimately. But I was and am correct.

If you are using 5 decks to play blackjack, and someone next to you is card counting, and you *irrationally* make a play that doesn’t make sense, you are using cards that the counter would have reason to count out and expect elsewhere, at least until the decks were exhausted and reshuffled.

Earls point was that I am correct only insofar as a player plays a small number of hands before retiring. He argued that it all comes out in the wash on longer games. but my point remains.

It is literally reality testing that I’m telling you. I don’t know what else I can say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284780)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:06 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

so by that logic if a player is playing irrationally and stands when he should have hit, it helps the card counter because he did not remove a card he should have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284796)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:08 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Depends on the number of hands played.

But what is clear is that recalibration would be required under either scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284803)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:09 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

the minds are not matched

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284807)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:16 PM
Author: marvelous aquamarine den circlehead

are you at some 1930s casino that deals blackjack face down? thats the only scenario i can think of where this matters, otherwise youd just update your count

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284836)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:21 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

exactly



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284863)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:22 PM
Author: Deranged Rusted Gunner

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284865)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 1:09 PM
Author: laughsome ruby school cuckoldry

When sp gambles more information is BAD

you're just not smart enough to understand why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285100)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:58 AM
Author: Lavender balding twinkling uncleanness

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489887)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: Dashing Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489904)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 2:03 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47490330)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: metal crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47490335)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: Shivering Masturbator

*evidence proves SP flatly wrong* SP: "No, I was right."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489837)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:00 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

Amazing thread

Also demonstrates a total misunderstanding of card counting; it’s not like you’re actively predicting what the next card is, it’s knowing where you are in the deck and adjusting strategy and betting accordingly based on the OVERALL situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284763)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:02 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4782366&mc=260&forum_id=2#42067551

several people explained this to him. this example is my favorite as the poaster clearly explains how card counting works in a simple and easy to understand way, and even maintains his composure and doesn't make fun of sp, yet sp *STILL* can't get it and just continues to dig his heels in and repeat the same nonsense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284769)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:05 PM
Author: gold arousing trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284789)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:07 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

I know what card counting is. The data points in the overall situation are affected. Microscopically only? Maybe or maybe not. But I am correct and I understand what card counting is.

If what you want to say is that no one is a machine like that to the degree that my irrational play makes a difference to them, that’s fine. But my math is correct. It’s pretty straightforward you just don’t like me so will never acknowledge that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284798)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:08 PM
Author: naked shrine

SP and TSINAH both have a stunning ability to substitute objective reality with their own subjective reality

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284806)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:10 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

I think he would agree w me if he looked at it closely.

Remember the card counter isn’t going to know how long or how short you will be in the game at the time you make your irrational play that disrupts his count and his expectations/predictions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284815)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:14 PM
Author: naked shrine

This is a separate issue than the card counting. I have no knowledge of cards and don’t care and this is far from the only example of you seeing things 100% opposite as everyone else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284830)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:18 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Remember the book topsy turvy world? Cute book. Autoadmit is literally topsy turvy world. I am merely a sojourner here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284844)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:23 PM
Author: Shivering Masturbator

When everyone around you is an asshole, you might want to look in the mirror.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284868)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:30 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

So, I know this is cognitively difficult for you, being an incel, but autoadmit is not actually irl. Irl most all of you are assholes. You certainly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284909)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:24 PM
Author: cracking lettuce

Lmao

What an absolute fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284875)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:32 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Take a statistics class at a good school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284915)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:24 PM
Author: Diverse Pale Office Dingle Berry

So SP's argument is literally that if somebody hits when they should have stood, then they receive a jack, it screws up the card counter's operation because that person should not have received a jack. Similarly, if someone should have hit and doesn't receive a queen, it screws up the count because now they didn't receive the queen that should have been theirs.

Folks, they're not sending their best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284879)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:27 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

Being very generous to SP, I get the idea that it could be more frustrating to see a card that otherwise would have been 'yours' get 'wasted' on busting a prole vs. a card that otherwise would have been 'yours' giving the guy before you a 21. It's irrational, but understandable.

But nobody who is seriously and successfully playing blackjack would think that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284896)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:33 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Well now you are talking player manners and culture. That’s fine but obviously different than what I was pointing out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284917)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:44 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

Okay--can you run your argument by me one more time?

For avoidance of doubt, my claim is that, while it may be psychologically understandable to be annoyed with the guy before you for 'wasting' a card that would have helped you on your turn, it's no more rational than being annoyed with the guy before you for hitting a good card when it made sense for him to hit.

(It may be more psychologically understandable because a guy who shows 11 and hits into a face card and a guy who shows 19 and hits into a face card have both 'robbed' you of your face card, but it's understandable why one of them would and not why the other would).

I'd further argue that the card counting thing is a non sequiter since card counting is about a generalized sense of when conditions are more favorable to the player than otherwise, but not about a given hand. The thing to remember is that while card counters can be quite successful, it's still a strategy with a lot of abstraction and room for error. It's not like card counters don't lose hands of blackjack when they're not trying to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284957)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:46 PM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman

WHAT THE FUCK MAN YOU TOOK MY CARD I WOULD HAVE HAD 21 NOW I'M GOING TO BUST

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284964)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:46 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

intriguing poast moniker synergy ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284965)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:52 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

“You’d better play irrationally for an hour to balance that shit out!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284998)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 1:03 PM
Author: Drab telephone

exactly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285062)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:37 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

yeah.

but as the thread clearly says and as is oft repeated to him, the whole point is whether the frustration is rational or not. and it wouldn't be.

also, as was often explained to him, the bad player is just as likely to have taken a bad card. the bad player is just as likely to hurt you or help you.

since the maths are beyond spaceporn's understanding i tried to poast examples of card counters saying that that other people's play has no effect on the card counter's play. if spaceporn can't understand the math on why this is the case, surely experts unanimously agreeing about it would convince him, right? but no, of course not. the entire world, including the experts he's talking about, are wrong, and he's right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284935)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:45 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza

The real answer is that someone with this sort of grasp of how math or cards work has no place at a casino unless they're playing poker against me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284961)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:46 PM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman

Ok now do charging people hundreds of dollars an hour to be their "attorney"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284966)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:51 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Is that how much it breaks down to? Awesome!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284991)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:25 PM
Author: Stirring narrow-minded home

Why is he so bad at clearly explaining his thinking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284884)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:31 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

I just scribble it out.

If i wrote more clearly I wouldn’t have the same poasting volume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284914)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:47 PM
Author: Stirring narrow-minded home

Why is it rewarding to you to post a high volume of vague, confused ramblings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284968)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:26 PM
Author: cordovan church building idiot

This is still my favorite

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4980043&mc=124&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284888)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:33 PM
Author: lilac aromatic school cafeteria

spaceporn is such a 180 poaster. can you imagine him being your “lawyer” lol?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284918)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:34 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

You would need an umbrella to keep from drowning in falling cash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284923)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:34 PM
Author: cordovan church building idiot

Based on his google reviews it's not hard to imagine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284925)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:35 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

Lots of nice ones too. Some People always gonna fuss. Look anywhere. That’s how law businesses are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284930)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:35 PM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284928)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:35 PM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman

Holy shit LOL

Incredible find. Wow hahahahahahahahhahaha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284927)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:36 PM
Author: hyperactive bearded juggernaut

You are only showing you don’t understand it. Sorry man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46284933)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489832)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:55 PM
Author: trip bisexual ticket booth

spaceporn is theoretically and marginally correct in one specific subset of this scenario, which is that in a hot deck to a counter, every future card that comes out of the deck is more likely than normal to return the deck to a neutral count because it's more likely than normal to be a ten/ace card.

under this theory, the counter is inconvenienced by previous players simply for seeing additional cards, although not for incorrect play - the counter should be just as pissed at someone with a <11 hand hitting correctly against a dealer 7-10 as someone with a 16 hitting against a dealer 6. in fact, the mere presence of any other player in this scenario is a negative to the counter, who would prefer to come in to a hot deck and play multiple hands across the entire felt.

this specific subset analysis ignores that the other players may yet drive the deck more positive and that positive and negative decks should occur with equal frequency, driven by the other players.

also, high-deck games and the cut card mean any change driven by other players hitting is so marginal as to be noise. these are all distinctions spaceporn did not seem to catch.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285011)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 12:56 PM
Author: curious therapy piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285014)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 1:17 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

but the argument isn't whether other players actions affect how hot the deck is, but whether it would be rational for a card counter to be frustrated by someone playing sub-optimally. it's obvious that cards being played affect what cards remain in the deck, and if a player is playing additional cards the deck is being thinned faster.

but there is no reason for someone to be rationally frustrated at someone "wasting" cards in a hot deck. after all, a card counter could choose to play every hand on the table if he wanted to avoid playing with other people. but this is exactly the opposite of what card counters do. they want to play with other people, because the more people are playing the faster the deck is used, and the quicker for a counter to reach a point where it's hot without having to bet on neutral or cold decks. this is why wonging (only joining a game when the deck is hot) is so popular and would be employed by every card counter if it didn't make it so obvious that a player was counting. if a card counter could, they would sit back and just observe games and only sit down to play when the deck was hot. thus, any marginal rational frustration that would come from an irrational player "wasting" cards in a hot deck is more than mitigated by the fact that additional players, regardless of how they are playing, benefit the card counter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285133)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 2:08 PM
Author: trip bisexual ticket booth

this is all correct and why i described my poast as a theoretical, marginal subset situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285397)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 1:19 PM
Author: exhilarant stead

this is such a random thing to get in a heated argument about. great illustration of the type of guy SP is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285139)



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Date: May 8th, 2023 1:22 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

i had kind of hoped that when i poasted this sp would come in here, after having a year to reflect on this, and admit his mistake. but, predictably and true to form, he immediately barged in here as the first poaster and has flailed and sperged about how he was right then and right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#46285150)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 2:25 PM
Author: odious theatre

You could give SP unlimited literature on this topic and heavily incentivize him to learn it (such as by paying him $2 million/yr so that he could stop being a 26th year associate and devote all his time to studying), and he would literally never, ever grasp the principles being discussed even if he spent the rest of his life trying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47490381)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 2:50 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

the truly astonishing thing is that sp ran in here to say "It was ultimately acknowledged that I was correct" when zero people ITT agreed with him. so, not only is this information impenetrable to him, but he is so untethered from reality that he left the thread believing *he was vindicated by others*!

i wonder when he get the 4th cir opinion he called his client to say they won?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47490445)



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Date: March 10th, 2024 1:25 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47480489)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489826)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 11:43 AM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman

Omg I forgot about this saga. This was soooo 180000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489834)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 8:56 PM
Author: Jet-lagged antidepressant drug skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265614)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: Dashing Brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489903)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Lavender balding twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489907)



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Date: March 13th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Green hideous space love of her life

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#47489908)



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Date: October 22nd, 2024 9:08 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48228660)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 8:53 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265604)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 8:54 PM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

You need to tell your therapist about this site and your obsession with me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265608)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:00 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

i am sort of obsessed with you. you're fascinating to me. i love when you come back and immediately sperg out. i said recently that you'd be my top choice to meet irl. i am legitimately curious if you are this arrogant, stupid, and insufferable irl.

btw, any movement on whether playing blackjack suboptimally is bad for card counters at the table?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265626)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:06 PM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

You need to get psychiatric treatment. I’m serious. You are living a half life right now and need major treatment beyond all the adhd meds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265642)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:08 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

i will take that under advisement.

does a person at a blackjack table who hits/stands when he shouldn't impact a cardcounter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265646)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:12 PM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

Is this an iq test? Of course. Counters have to make an unexpected adjustment based on the swerve. It probably takes a few rounds to zero out the impact also. Ask your professors who you love to ask. You are an odd and completely toxic person.

More to the point you need help. Seriously. You are gonna die alone without a companion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265655)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:16 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

what "unexpected adjustment" must they make? card counters adjust the size of their bets based on how favorable the deck is to them. they cannot adjust their bet in the middle of play because a player hit when he "shouldn't have" and slightly impacted the favorability of the remaining cards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265669)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:17 PM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

Not what I said bro

Your mental health issues are out of control. Can you even work with all that pathology buzzing around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265673)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:18 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

"Counters have to make an unexpected adjustment based on the swerve."

can you specifically explain what you're saying then? what is the "adjustment?" and i assume the "swerve" is the other player misplaying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265683)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:25 PM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

If you had even an ounce of sanity or integrity right now you would agree that what I said was correct. If you don’t you can’t and you need help. Go harass a lunatic. Not me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265719)



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Date: October 31st, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

how can i agree if you won't clarify what "unexpected adjustment" means. i guessed it meant size of the bet because that's really the only thing a card counter changes based on probability. although advanced ones may hit/stand differently too, but only in extreme situations that cannot be altered by a played taking a card when he "shouldn't have."

you said the "unexpected adjustment" was not altering your bet size. the only other decision a player makes is how to play his cards. do you think a single card taken from a deck that "shouldn't have" would change how a card counter decides to hit/stand?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48265756)



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Date: November 1st, 2024 2:22 PM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

waiting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48268376)



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Date: November 14th, 2024 9:49 AM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse

where are we at on this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48336064)



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Date: November 14th, 2024 9:49 AM
Author: splenetic toilet seat theater

https://archive.vn/Aoemv



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5336839&forum_id=2id.#48336067)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 6:07 AM
Author: clear thriller legal warrant meetinghouse



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