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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Pale curious boltzmann
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
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Pale curious boltzmann
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Pale curious boltzmann
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
diverse submissive depressive
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
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Pale curious boltzmann
  12/17/25
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diverse submissive depressive
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
low-t provocative hissy fit
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
diverse submissive depressive
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low-t provocative hissy fit
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
jet-lagged fortuitous meteor garrison
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
lascivious brilliant casino psychic
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
diverse submissive depressive
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Walnut address
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diverse submissive depressive
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Pale curious boltzmann
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
Yapping Crotch Patrolman
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
bateful orchid messiness
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diverse submissive depressive
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Yapping Crotch Patrolman
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Pale curious boltzmann
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Pale curious boltzmann
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
floppy range international law enforcement agency
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
exciting market
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: low-t provocative hissy fit

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: low-t provocative hissy fit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: jet-lagged fortuitous meteor garrison

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: lascivious brilliant casino psychic

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Walnut address

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: diverse submissive depressive



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Yapping Crotch Patrolman

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: bateful orchid messiness

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: diverse submissive depressive



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Yapping Crotch Patrolman



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Pale curious boltzmann



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: floppy range international law enforcement agency

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: exciting market

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515738)