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i rate it as kooky but good for him
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he's at (((fisher phillips))), which is actually bottom of t...
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Rapid departures like this and down the ladder suggest somet...
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egg on his cravat tp
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touche
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  08/30/25
'He threw down the shilling and the cravat was taken, what w...
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RANK the Littler/Ogletree/Jackson Lewis/Constangy
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Littler >> JL >>>> Ogletree. Don’t k...
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I knew a woman in college who wound up going to Littler. Is ...
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Littler is probably like JL (where I used to work). The pay ...
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Eh, doing OK. In-house. Bored. Thinking of moving to NYC.
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From where?
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  08/31/25
"he was a nice guy" Was he really? This was no...
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Did you deal with him as opposing counsel or co-counsel? May...
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Pretty sure that's his MO. He's very slick at a high level....
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I could never get a job at Baker Hostetler. They’d tak...
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my buddy is still at BH and he's of counsel. he's having an ...
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Could your buddy get me a job at BH? Maybe as of counsel? I&...
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I doubt it. What skills do u have?
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a city where the name baker hostetler MEANS something, not o...
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You mean like Cleveland or Cincinnati?
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I enjoyed this subthread
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To be fair bitch is kind of enchanting. If no tats he won.
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That chick is already fucking other doods
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how old was he when he got married?
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  09/01/25
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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

data privacy dood at baker hostetler (he's now at one of the L&E firms). he came up on my fb "people you may know." he has older kids, so this is clearly a second marriage. he referred to her in one status update as "my enchantress"

https://ibb.co/Fk93rNY1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223776)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: arousing useless brakes

i rate it as kooky but good for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223779)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:14 AM
Author: impertinent senate

this litrally looks like a porn dvd cover

also, it appears, for all intent and purpose, his bride is a man

anyway, this should be a watermark on his biz card "Better Call Stanislav"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223781)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness weed whacker

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"Married to the Pirate of the Passion Seas"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223843)



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Date: September 5th, 2025 5:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49239507)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 2:43 PM
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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:16 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

He looks deeply insane, and short.

How is it that a guy like this can find work in preftigious law firms like Baker Hostetler and Littler’s?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223784)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

he's at (((fisher phillips))), which is actually bottom of the barrel when it comes to the L&E firms. i don't understand why he's at an L&E firm because his practice doesn't necessarily line up. he must have carved out a niche where he focuses on employment-related issues related to data breaches.

i did a case for him just before i left BH. the DC police dept had a big data breach and their union filed a grievance over it, and i handled that for them. he was a nice guy, never figured he'd be a jeff bezos-like dude with an "alive girl." glad he's happy but LJL at this all around.

he went from BH to nixon peabody to fisher phillips in the course of 3 years. kinda bizarre.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223789)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:30 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

Rapid departures like this and down the ladder suggest something is deeply wrong with him. Throw in the latest marriage and I’m guessing he’s about as far away from happiness as I am. Wait until this late in life marriage blows up and he’s got egg all over his face and lapels. This is when he goes truly off the deep end.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223794)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

egg on his cravat tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223802)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:36 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

touche

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223812)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

'He threw down the shilling and the cravat was taken, what we all learn in law school' - Candy Ride's co counsel to horrified Florida appellate judge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224429)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: cheese-eating razzle-dazzle round eye cruise ship

RANK the Littler/Ogletree/Jackson Lewis/Constangy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223956)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Littler >> JL >>>> Ogletree. Don’t know constangy really. Aren’t they full service? Good to see you man. How you doing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223965)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

I knew a woman in college who wound up going to Littler. Is still there after like 20 years, lol. Kind of amazing that is even still possible in this day and age.

They must be relatively fair with their people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223971)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:24 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Littler is probably like JL (where I used to work). The pay sucks unless you’re rainmaker. For instance, JL has a cap on nonequity partner income of 250-300k and it’s hard as shit to make equity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224005)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:03 AM
Author: cheese-eating razzle-dazzle round eye cruise ship

Eh, doing OK. In-house. Bored. Thinking of moving to NYC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223973)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

From where?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226925)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

"he was a nice guy"

Was he really? This was not my experience with this guy.

"never figured he'd be a jeff bezos-like dude with an "alive girl.""

They've been together quite a while now and they got together when she was still in her 20s.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226902)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Did you deal with him as opposing counsel or co-counsel? Maybe he does an act in that context. He just handed off a couple cases to me - plus I didn’t know him super well, so even if he’s a dick I suppose I’d think he’s cool bc my interactions are limited. In retrospect I shouldn’t have said that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226921)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:57 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Pretty sure that's his MO. He's very slick at a high level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226940)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:39 AM
Author: exhilarant walnut church building

Is your question really how does an insane short person get a job at Baker Hostetler?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223813)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

I could never get a job at Baker Hostetler. They’d take one look at me, laugh, and shut down the meeting. They wouldn’t even validate my parking and in my city Baker Hostetler is in a building with expensive parking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223824)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

my buddy is still at BH and he's of counsel. he's having an affair with a partner in the houston office, lmao. he travels a lot like i do, and she goes around with him, and they sometimes call me from random ass places like denver, nyc, or whatever. no idea how this guy is getting away with it, but then again i guess i did for a long time.

edit, my bad ur in dallas. wtf, i had no idea BH added a second texas office. they had like 12 offices when i joined and 14 when i left. they're up to 18 now. that's kind of a TTT marker.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223832)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

Could your buddy get me a job at BH? Maybe as of counsel? I’ll bill 2,350 hours and I will leave the young associates alone. I promise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223842)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I doubt it. What skills do u have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223939)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

I can generate $1m in revenue and will work for $225k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223943)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

One year during my spiral I generated like 700k lmao. Shocked they didn’t fire me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223946)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Wild Crotch

a city where the name baker hostetler MEANS something, not one of those satellites where a presence is maintained for respectability with everyone knowing full well it’s just a storefront, it’s not the true bakery, if you want the sweet treats fresh and steaming hot then you’ll need to go elsewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223841)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

You mean like Cleveland or Cincinnati?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223844)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: exhilarant walnut church building

“We run Cincinnati,” sneered the short insane Baker Hostetler Of Counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223851)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Obsidian Friendly Grandma

“I. Am. Cincinnatus!” bellowed the half naked, excessively hairy and swarthy, pot-bellied middle aged Baler Hostetler of Counsel as he fled across the Purple People Bridge toward the confluence of the Licking River with the Mighty Ohio in Northeast Kentucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223863)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: charismatic sapphire home

I literally just blew coffee out my nose and shat myself. thanks for that!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49236346)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

the ohio offices are all the oldest ones. the firm started in cleveland. i forget the exact years, but i think they didn't open a dc office until like 1988, then nyc in the 90s.

they woke up in the late 80s and decided they wanted to run with the big boys. they have failed. i enjoyed my time there and i have regrets about leaving sometimes, but they barely qualify as biglaw. they pay market to first years in the major markets, but comp after that sucks ass. they should have just embraced being a REGIONAL POWERHOUSE with outposts in ny/dc/la but that's not what they did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223853)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: big stage elastic band

Antonin Scalia started at Jones day cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223908)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I always got a kick out of that. More prestigious than bh but not exactly preftigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223972)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: lavender haunting locale azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223892)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: big stage elastic band

The Houston office was opened so they could get 2nd tier clients that thought they were hiring baker Botts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223905)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Shrewd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223940)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:27 AM
Author: Concupiscible henna haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227600)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:38 PM
Author: Wild Crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49236493)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

He isn't short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226914)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Rambunctious plaza

somewhere between Marquis de Sade and Gay Pirate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223895)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: buff temple famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227865)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: Learning disabled shrine

I like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223953)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I started out mocking and defaming this man but I’m into it now. Good for him. He’s a nice guy actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49223967)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

She's pretty good looking and I would dress up like a pirate if that's what gets her off. Happy wife happy life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224441)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 2:09 AM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce

she’s had a lot of work done, would need to see the before pics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225512)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 2:10 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

You're trippin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225514)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 2:12 AM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce

?

please don’t tell me you think she is surgery free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225516)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 2:19 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

Anything is possible but what evidence do you have? She could have had rhinoplasty 20 years ago but you can't assess that from the photo other than saying it's more likely she did because she has a nice face. She's also wearing a lot of make up. Sure it's possible she did. But you don't know that and you're just hating because she's obviously attractive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225524)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:03 AM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce

she looks very good but in a generic way, which is a major tell

I’m saying you gotta see the before pics if you’re planning to have kids cuz she might shit out some little gremlins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225547)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:28 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

This woman would never go near you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225556)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:41 AM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce

Lmao ok I get it

you’re the guy in the pic. congrats, I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225560)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:23 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I enjoyed this subthread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225657)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226150)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:30 AM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

A few things:

1. I think this pic is 10+ years old. But yes, she looked fantastic, IMO. Very quintessentially Slavic.

2. At that period he mentioned that he didn't want to have more kids (he has several from a prior marriage). I remember thinking that given her age and the fact that she didn't have any kids that this might present a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227602)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: Learning disabled shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226864)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

To be fair bitch is kind of enchanting. If no tats he won.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224412)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 3:40 PM
Author: dashing digit ratio rigpig

That chick is already fucking other doods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224503)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: histrionic tattoo affirmative action

how old was he when he got married?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224511)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

no idea. i knew him in 2021-2022 and he appeared to be around 50, early 50s. no clue when he married. my guess is around the pandemic he met this alive girl and left his law shrew wife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224613)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:36 AM
Author: histrionic tattoo affirmative action

theres kind of a window where its pathetic. but if he was over fifty it seems fine. what else is he gonna do with his time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225409)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:12 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I agree but see my poast below. He may be stretched thin financially bc of this. Many such cases in law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226154)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:56 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

I knew him quite a while before that. Like mid 2010s. He wasn't married for too long at that point. They got married in some mass wedding at the Grammy Awards. Search his name and you'll find the details.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226930)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Contagious Talking Theater Stage Prole

She looks like a decent get for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224642)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224652)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 4:59 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

(jew)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224672)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 7:17 PM
Author: azure infuriating stead internal respiration

How many renn faires does she make him attend a year? No way it's less than five. I'd go to every one of them with a smile on my face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49224965)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225333)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: Laughsome vermilion dingle berry point

do you think i could be a partner at baker hostetler, baker mckenzie or baker botts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225343)



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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Yes, absolutely I do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225355)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 2:20 AM
Author: Laughsome vermilion dingle berry point

thanks man that means a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225525)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I love you. You know I love you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225838)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:30 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac tanning salon boistinker

these two looked like they crawled out of a pit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225405)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:45 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Medicated Stag Film Juggernaut

I hope he got a prenup because she looks crazy as hell and he's clearly made a mistake but good for him for hitting that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225420)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:47 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

It's gotta be 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225427)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

I mean they've been married for over a decade at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226965)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 12:49 AM
Author: lascivious crackhouse pisswyrm

CHAD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225428)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

I’ll just take a guess and say this guy makes like 750k. He should be living a comfortable life and have a couple mil in retirement accounts and a couple more in brokerage accounts. Instead he’s likely paying like 15k in alimony and child support and paying for this wacky alive girl who fucks him like the pros I used to bang (but probably cheaper for me per fuck if you break it down) and he’s living check to check.

He’s a cool dood so I hope I’m wrong, but I fear I’m not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49225670)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: arousing useless brakes

you think a $750k salary is not enough to fund her costumes and lifestyle?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226511)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: histrionic tattoo affirmative action

when you cant tell her "no" the sky is the limit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226529)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:36 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226595)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 3:45 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

and as we can all see by his wedding attire, he cannot tell this enchantress "no." he can't even suggest "babe, maybe you shouldn't..."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226613)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 4:12 PM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226668)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

It’s enough, but assuming alimony and child support he’s likely living a very comfortable life but not saving anything and will have to work forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226905)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: lavender haunting locale azn

tp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226911)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:04 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Back in the day they had a fairly middle class townhome. Nothing extravagant at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226960)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Learning disabled shrine

I know someone who knows him irl. Apparently, this guy has... led an interesting life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226866)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Pls poast stories or leave me a throwaway. I gotta hear this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226909)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:00 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226949)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:38 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

LMAO, oh holy fuck. I know this guy. Fun fact: before he did privacy law and telecom stuff he did porn law (ran his own firm). Yes, really. He implemented some age verification system for the industry. His wife runs some talent agency. If you dig around online you'll find all sorts of interesting things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226884)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Ho lee fuck

Every time I poast pics of someone from irl there’s an Xo connection. I posted a pic of this chick with boltons I know and a poaster here had fucked her and poasted her initials.

So this dood married a former porn star???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226893)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Just to verify that I'm not bsing- his initials are DP, wife's first initial is M.

Can't confirm if she was ever a porn star, but draw your own conclusions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226907)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Yep you’re right. And yeah I mean if she was in talent acquisition for porn she definitely did fuck movies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226912)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 5:50 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

No, she runs her own agency.

EDIT: or ran. I haven't had contact with this guy in a very long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226916)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Fuck me, I want to know about his private irl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226964)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Listen, I only know some things. I'm sure there's a ton of totally insane shit that I never found out about. I had some crazy friends that did a deep dive into his personal life. The rumors were ... very interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226968)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:25 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Lmfao would you be willing to talk to me via throwaway or something? This is hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226997)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:04 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

I'm out and about but I'll make a throwaway and post it here later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227052)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

180 thanks brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227112)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:37 PM
Author: Milky meetinghouse

incredible subthread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227118)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 10:26 PM
Author: Deep People Who Are Hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227444)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

i just re-read it three times. it's insanely awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227486)



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Date: September 2nd, 2025 5:14 AM
Author: mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness weed whacker

ZOZO delivers, yet again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49230113)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 7:46 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

myxothrowaway456@proton.me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227131)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:01 PM
Author: Twisted dysfunction karate

This dude probably has an insane sex life that most XO denizens could only dream of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226952)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:09 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Kind of crazy to me, as I knew him as a law partner guy. Then again my fellow biglol colleagues would have been shocked to know the type of shit I did. You never know I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49226970)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 10:19 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

lmao just read the email from your throwaway, JUST LMAO. wow.

i wont poast any of the content out of respect for pumo, but highly encourage him to poast some of them here because it's pretty wacky.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227424)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: arousing useless brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227550)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 11:48 PM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

Do tell ffs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227571)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Sorry, too much irl detail to post here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227585)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:59 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

I don't know this guy and I really don't care about his irl I just need to know if he did gay porn scenes or whatever crazy shit happened. No doobs just being reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227617)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:13 AM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

I'm not aware of him being in any porn vids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227624)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:17 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

Damn so how salacious could it possibly be then just spill it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227626)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:25 AM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

This is spicy for lawyers in normal jobs (think stuff ATL would publish), not stuff the NY Post would love to get a hold of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227629)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:34 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

Well I'm not a lawyer ATL is gay as fuck. I don't care if this guy did some gay law misconduct. But you seem like you can barely hold back talking about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227636)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:36 AM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

This is all "gay lawyer shit." If you're not a lawyer then nothing here is particularly interesting for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227638)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:45 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican

There's gotta be more about the porn stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227641)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

He’s right. What he told me is basically “this guy is an incompetent retard and asshole and basically fell upward for a while.” I’m sure there’s some wild shit about him out there but I didn’t get that from pumo. I’m certain there’s more porn info. I’ll find and poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227853)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Underhanded abnormal mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227968)



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Date: August 31st, 2025 10:23 PM
Author: Deep People Who Are Hurt

I can’t stop staring at his nose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227435)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: cracking hilarious menage sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227917)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: khaki ceo lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49228933)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: cracking hilarious menage sweet tailpipe

Is he Jewish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49227919)



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Date: September 1st, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

Yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49228644)



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Date: September 2nd, 2025 5:12 AM
Author: mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness weed whacker

well he is a PORNOGRAPHER.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49230112)



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Date: September 2nd, 2025 8:21 AM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49230308)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: maroon doobsian wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5767761&forum_id=2most#49236457)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 4:06 PM
Author: startled cream black woman headpube



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Date: September 4th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: charismatic sapphire home

need to know penis size but just by him being shorter than her it's clear he's a closeted fag and/or a russian

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Date: September 5th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Opaque rigor forum

He is definitely not Russian. He is also not short irl. She is just tall and in heels.

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Date: September 5th, 2025 3:44 PM
Author: gold fluffy voyeur athletic conference

Yea iirc he’s average height. I didn’t spend too much time around him or his lava lamp

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