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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:17 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell He pissed me off in that other thread. Here's the truth: He referred me a case where the driver was at fault. Maybe this was a one-off kind of thing, but I wound up wasting substantial time getting the case to the point where leaving the scene didn't matter.
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:20 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish >He referred me a case where the driver was at fault.
ESL? which driver? some driver is at fault in every accident |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:22 PM Author: yellow institution personal credit line Sounds like TSINAH was lazy and a bad lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362622) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:22 PM Author: yellow institution personal credit line And you begged him like a dog for referrals and a job my man! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362619) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:24 PM Author: mewling affirmative action lol bro let it go. every time you engage this way it's not a good look. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362624) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:31 PM Author: histrionic newt fortuitous meteor not very many of the cases the firm farms out were great, many were horrible.
ZZZ got a lot of very bad cases to deal with. The cases he got were already rejected by pumoshithead tp, kenny tp before ZZZ would get a shot at a file.
there is the occasional gold in the pile of dogshit though, we referred a case to Kenny TP which settled for $2.5 mil.
Kenny has someone turned his career into making millions off of mediocre cases, it is actually extremely impressive.
At this point in 2025, almost no one wants these level of cases anymore and almost nothing gets farmed out.
good easy cases almost never get farmed out. there is no reason to.
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:32 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish >At this point in 2025, almost no one wants these level of cases anymore and almost nothing gets farmed out.
what's changed and why? |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:51 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria I think they're making so much money on slip n trip shitlaw with ridiculous CA statutes and dumb nigga juries that to waste an ounce of mental energy on anything borderline that they might lose is a total waste to them. If they look at the evidence and they don't have an immediate angle on a path to riches it's thrown back into the water. But most of the time they have some surefire way to frame it to extract wealth from an insurance company. Probably even the borderline stuff you can pitch it to a group of retards or cop a quick settlement. The whole thing is a sham and Chandler should be ashamed of himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362681) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:56 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish its not clear whether the shit cases are the ones with disputed liability, or where there's very little prop damage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362690) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:02 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria If only we had a CA shitlaw guru who could break it down for us. In interviews on YouTube he talks about phantom pain no doctor can detect but he still has expert witnesses on the payroll who can attest that plaintiffs experience pain beyond the realm of science. I'll let you decide on whether his issue with clients is that liability is in dispute or whether there's not enough damage to make a buck off the thing. He has bragged in threads before about massive payouts in cases where his client was 100% at fault and they got a massive life altering windfall anyway. You be the judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362706) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: histrionic newt fortuitous meteor zero visible property damage on the vehicle, or low visible prop damage with disputed liability.
those are the type of cases we rarely take anymore. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: histrionic newt fortuitous meteor idk guys starting their own firms now are pickier than they were 7 years ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362860) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:39 PM Author: crawly adventurous area Lol at you blaming CSLG when you texted the client that she was a bitch or whatever but “meant” to send it to CSLG. You lost this case long before liability was ever going to matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362644) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:43 PM Author: mewling affirmative action nah ding bro this was just another random misfortune that tsinah is completely unaccountable for along the long path of innocent random misfortunes that ultimately wound up with him leaving legal practice entirely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362649) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:46 PM Author: crawly adventurous area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362659) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:46 PM Author: startled peach mad-dog skullcap house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362662) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362682) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: odious pearl theater stage factory reset button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362687) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:58 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362696) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:00 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell she got the work she needed out of me--a hit-and-run for free. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362698) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: mewling affirmative action bro you're done here and the arrogant refusal to acknowledge responsibility for your own bullshit is why. i can't believe you even created this thread dredging this nonsense up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362705) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:04 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell ?
take the dick out of your mouth and look at this objectively. either way, I was referred a case where the driver was at fault. that she was a raving fucking lunatic was added points. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish u didnt have to take the case ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362718) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:07 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell no, I didn't. But it also looks pretty bad to turn down referrals. So, the reality is that I did have to take the case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362726) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:08 PM Author: crawly adventurous area No it doesn’t look bad. You just look stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362732) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:09 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell I wasn't in a position to turn down referrals and certainly wasn't in a position to accept shitty ones. Either way, I got completely fucked in the end and wasted probably close to 100 hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362734) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish ur the only lawyer who wastes 100s of hrs on dogshit cases (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362737) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria His other option was drinking with potential clients (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362739) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: mewling affirmative action his personal lawyer candy ride has wasted *THOUANDS* of hours on dogshit cases! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362746) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria Think of how much business you could have gotten had you gone to the bar looking for DWIs to fight
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell I did make a fortune doing that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362744) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: crawly adventurous area How did you spend 100 hours on a car accident case? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362742) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell 1. it was a referral so I always put more effort into those
2. I'm including phone time -- this bitch called everyday for at least an hour. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish > called everyday for at least an hour
u seem to lack client management skills |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: balding degenerate Bingo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362759) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:29 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362784) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:57 PM Author: crawly adventurous area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362847) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:25 PM Author: yellow institution personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363231) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell not disagreeing. I also didn't have a 30+ employee law firm manning the phones and insulating me from that nonsense, which I said above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362762) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:23 PM Author: balding degenerate I had like 2 staff when I sent you that case, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362770) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:25 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish tens of thousands of shitlaw solos around the country dont have daily hour-long convos w their clients.
yet u seem to have not only this woman, but all these shitty other clients who hassle you and you do free work for |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:27 PM Author: balding degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362776) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362781) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:29 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell I really didn't have any problem with clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362783) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:31 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish youve poasted about dozens of other clients who stiffed you and you continued to do free work for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362790) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell dozens is generous. maybe a handful, but not dozens.
also, nearly everything I write has tremendous reach, so that probably helped make it seem more significant.
link to dozens? |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:48 PM Author: clear beta abode organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364756) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: crawly adventurous area This didn’t even include depositions and discovery and motion practice or expert witness prep? Lol at spending that much time on the phone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362755) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: crawly adventurous area So then decline the case?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362723) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:08 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria Kenny made millions off of dogshit cases. You're like Al Pacino flipping out about PATEL. You want me to sell to PATEL?! Lord Shiva himself could come down to Earth and tell this guy to buy and he wouldn't do it!
If you can't sell the old leads, you don't get the Glengarry leads. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: mewling affirmative action i've never asked or received anything from cslg (except for some 180 drugs) which is why my opinion here is unbiased whereas yours is sour grapes. you had his dick FIRMLY lodged in your mouth for YEARS. which is really rich considering what a virulent antisemite you were and became again but *ONLY* after his potential money spigot was closed.
i considered this embarrassing page from your past closed. why you're reopening again now is beyond me. let it go. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: crawly adventurous area Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362745) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:16 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell I've never asked and have never received anything from CSLG, as well.
I've always been an antisemite. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:19 PM Author: mewling affirmative action lol bro do you expect us to think he thrust this referral on you and forced you to spin your wheels for a hundreds hours on it?
do you think people forget about you begging his wife for a crypto lawyer job?
again, i'm not trying to bring this shit up to embarrass you as i considered this behind you. there was a recent thread about you begging his wife for a job where i said the same thing: let it go. i thought you had moved on. apparently not. you should. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell link to me begging his wife? I just asked her to forward my resume and she presumably scoffed at the idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362758) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:22 PM Author: mewling affirmative action lol c'mon man. i witnessed it, i don't have some tsinah pwnage folder. i imagine 90% of the people reading this subthread wasteland remember.
let it go. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:23 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell so we're just going to have to take your word for it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362772) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:27 PM Author: mewling affirmative action perhaps it's some Mandella effect collective delusion that we all remember but never occurred. has this solipsistic "community account lol" denial ever worked for you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362778) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:29 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell so we're just going to have to take your word for it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362782) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:55 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria Where is so we looked at the data tp when you need him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362841) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:56 AM Author: Glassy Public Bath Ceo This isn't court. We remember. That's enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363331) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:54 AM Author: violet liquid oxygen center Fan of your posting brother, but I remember this. People even made threads about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363509) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:57 PM Author: Brindle pontificating market legend To be fair,
Bro stop. I remember this too. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:14 AM Author: burgundy athletic conference lol it was pretty pathetic. you even brought it up and CSLG basically ghosted you.
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Date: October 21st, 2025 10:45 AM Author: balding degenerate I didn't ghost him. I submitted his resume through back channels to try and help. They said he was unqualified. He didn't like that answer and got upset. I love TSINAH, I would never ghost him! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363678) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 10:47 AM Author: lascivious hunting ground Why didn’t you bribe them? Isn’t he your friend?
And what you mean he was unqualified, how could anyone be more qualified? |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:09 PM Author: burgundy athletic conference ah right, my bad. that's right. but I thought out of politeness you avoided the question to spare having to say publicly he wasn't qualified.
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:35 PM Author: mewling affirmative action i think a lot of people assumed cslg ghosted him because of how bizarre it was to publicly express interest in a job on xo when you're already in private contact with the person. why wouldn't he just text him?
cslgs response seemed placating, but wtf was he supposed to do? say “sorry bro it's not for you i would have reached out directly if i thought it was”? placate him with “wow omg yes you're the perfect fit!”
its just like the referral shit where everyone is to blame except him. does he expect cslg to vet referrals before handing them off? he's not a paid lead generation service. that's literally tsinahs whole job lol. if cslg thought it was worth his time he wouldn't have referred it out in the first place!
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:55 PM Author: Brindle pontificating market legend To be fair,
I genuinely hate to agree with you here because CSLG is one of the biggest and most odious rat-faced kikes to ever plague XO and I am generally pro-TSINAH because we align politically on most issues, but reluctant CR.
Bad enough for a proud and principled white goy who is openly woke on JQ to go crawling to a shady slip'n'fall kike begging for shitty "hehe" shitlaw cases... but even worse to then turn around and publicly act like an ungrateful shithead about it on the backend and refuse to accept any personal responsibility when it turns sour in part because of some demonstrably retarded mistakes that you made re basic client management...
Awful look. Dat cancel on this whole thread, bro. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: yellow institution personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362707) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:30 PM Author: Swollen mother menage Lmao why do you always try to feud with all the white poasters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363015) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:33 PM Author: mewling affirmative action why do you become embroiled in every controversy involving zzz?
Date: October 17th, 2025 1:08 PM Author: gujarattt free thread ((zurich is stained))
were you serious when you poasted recently that ZZZ was the worst lawyer you've ever come across?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787220&forum_id=2#49355785)
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Date: October 17th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: calishitlawguru (Self Made UHNW)
Yes, and it's not even close. I basically handed him a ton of cases, connections, and mentorship and he still couldn't make it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5787220&forum_id=2#49355807) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:54 PM Author: Swollen mother menage All poasters with all grandparents born in the US love ZZZ. It is great to see a talented guy killing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363271) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:54 AM Author: Glassy Public Bath Ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363329) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:57 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell what did that have to do with it being a shitty referral? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362693) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:00 PM Author: floppy legal warrant Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362701) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: crawly adventurous area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362721) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: mewling affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362743) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:46 PM Author: nofapping main people he's a disgusting kike rat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362660) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: beady-eyed box office nibblets (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362763) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:50 PM Author: vivacious drunken business firm I miss dogshit tp from way back in the day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362677) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 4:14 PM Author: jet university community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364504) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 6:55 PM Author: free-loading mildly autistic crackhouse incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362688) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria This is the state that ruled Tesla owed some janitor billions of dollars because someone wrote nigger on the wall in a bathroom. Just extrapolate from there what do you think the very sane people of California codified into law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362716) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:29 PM Author: Rusted Cuck Pumoshithead here... These cases are actually suprisingly tough unless there is a history of significant criminal activity that landlord knew about. I've handled a few of these that settled in the 1-1.5 million range but in all the landlord had substantial knowledge of gang activity in and around the complex, violence, drug sales, etc and actually reduced security measures.
The apts were largely section 8 units and the landlord was a complete slumlord with lone of the larger section 8 holdings in the country and ran all his properties the same. |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:23 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell We've wasted a lot of time discussing nothing of substance above. How about an answer to the question posed in this thread? Anyone want to chime in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362769) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 7:30 PM Author: Vigorous out-of-control hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362787) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: lascivious hunting ground Yes, CSLG referred me Michael Garcia v Starbucks, a case in which I was able to obtain a $50 million dollar verdict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362879) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:14 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362882) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:27 PM Author: topaz talented dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363009) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:27 AM Author: lascivious hunting ground He also referred to me Leila Miyamoto-Workman vs. Daniel Almazan, a case in which I was able to obtain a $21 million dollar verdict. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363295) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:50 AM Author: topaz talented dragon That one took my family to Disneyland! Will never forget that day! What an experience! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363300) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:52 AM Author: lascivious hunting ground The best part about being an elite world class trial lawyer is helping the injured, the deceased, the harmed, the obese, the gluttonous, the jabba the huts, the mentally ill, people like you. I am glad my excellent trial work and advocacy helped you out and brightened your day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363301) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:55 AM Author: topaz talented dragon You’re my hero. I’m thinking of flying out to Ojai with my wife for the weekend to maybe stay at Ojai Valley Inn. Could I possibly stop in and we could chat about Trial Lawyers for Justice coming to my home state? I really loved the graphic you put up of all the ESI received in the Leila Miyamoto-Workman case. That graphic made me feel like she was being stabbed over and over again just trying to feel better. It really resonated with me. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:58 AM Author: lascivious hunting ground I would absolutely love to, it’d be a privilege and an honor, and I wish I could make it happen. However, I have an image and social media accounts to maintain, so I can’t be seen with you in public due to your obvious impulse control issues. You need to lose at least 100 pounds before it can happen.
I work out everyday, I have 19 children with 14 women and two trans men. I am in shape, you have no excuses. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:03 AM Author: topaz talented dragon If I could show you a trial closing demonstrative of what it’s like to be like me on a daily basis it’d bring you to you to tears. I can tell that story about the physical pain, the loss of mobility, the shame, the social isolation, and the concomitant emotional turmoil. But you’re right. I do need to lose at least 100 pounds before I can go back and walk the streets of Ojai. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363307) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 1:04 AM Author: lascivious hunting ground You’re a great guy but you don’t need to show me all of that, looking at you brings me to tears already. Lose the weight and we’ll make it happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363309) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:47 PM Author: free-loading mildly autistic crackhouse incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364325) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:57 PM Author: Rusted Cuck There is exactly zero chance the real nick rowley knows about this website let alone posts here. I know him irl and this is not the type of place he would lurk. The dude is far too busy flying around the country trying cases non stop and working out, hanging out with his 30 kids and hot trial lawyer wife in montana and ojai. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364349) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:58 PM Author: free-loading mildly autistic crackhouse incel I’ll email him with xoxohth in the subject line and see what happens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364353) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:59 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish the real JD vance, otoh.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364355) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:32 PM Author: Exciting ladyboy meetinghouse CSLG referred a sick free T-shirt to my address. He’s A-OK in my book. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362911) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:34 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish i fuck my wife wearing it from time to time (it's in my t-shirt rotation) lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362917) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 8:38 PM Author: Exciting ladyboy meetinghouse My wife sometimes wears it as pajamas now not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49362923) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:26 PM Author: offensive shrine pisswyrm TSINAH is going to gain so much weight, emotional binge eating after this own-goaled thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363003) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 9:27 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363007) |
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Date: October 20th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: yellow institution personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49363242) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:16 AM Author: burgundy athletic conference isn't TSINAH successful with 3 jobs making 500k or something? why is he digging up old drama?
could it be he's broke and wants to blame someone?
no, definitely not that. everything is always someone else's fault. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Rusted Cuck Pumoshithead here. I rarely poast on what this cesspool of a site has become but still lurk occasionally.
CSLG like all firms referring any level of volume primarily sends out complete shit. These cases take work but are profitable if you're willing to work them, litigate them, etc. However to be profitable you need to be efficient and you need a decent level of volume for it to all average out. Some times you'll take low settlements or "losses" on cases just to get them done, while others you'll settle for more than you ever thought. So in the end it averages out.
These cases are also great for developing PI skills, learning the business, dealing with (often shitty) clients, etc. AFter about 1.5 years I was completely free of new CSLG referrals but I wouldn't ever discount what a major role he played in helping me start my firm.
We now do well over 3 mil a year in settlements. Is that because of cases CSLG sent me? Of course not... But I did learn how to make money on pure shit which is essentially scale and volume and those lessons carried forward as I got better and better cases as the firm grew and developed.
Like Chandler said, it's our experience that no new lawyers starting PI practices want to work. They all see 30-50 million dollar verdict and assume those are normal. They have no concept on how to structure a case to get it there, how to effectively open a policy, or even manage the clients. I didn't either when I started, but I learned on shit cases with low risk, not 10 million dollar cases with someone on the other end who's catastrophically injured and counting on you. Also, its not like insurance companies are staffing those 10 million dollar cases with your typical dog shit insurance defense attorneys so you better know your medicine and know your basic lit strategy before going to town on those.
Because of the lessons learned on small cases I was able to open a number of policies between the 100k and 2 million range and secured settlements or verdicts in the 5-10 million range on these cases... Many were cases other firms passed on.
When we grew I directly looked for people who seemed young and hungry and willing to work to send cases too. In every case they would pass even on very good cases that just required some work. Some of these cases we stuck with and flipped liability or beat MSJ and then brought in major firms such as Brian Panish's firm or Rowley's firm and those cases are now positioned to be worth several millions of dollars. These were cases numerous newer attorneys passed on because they looked difficult... "Man... I like the case but I don't see how we can flip liability" on cases with an adverse police report but a favorable witness, or some other fact that made the police report unlikely. Instead of doing the minimum like looking at the cars, hiring an expert, pulling EDR data, they just passed immediately because the case was "too much work".
I've been seeing this more and more which isn't too dissimilar from the general work ethic I've seen in a lot of new lawyers which is somewhat poor. I can't really blame them as the path to success in America is pretty tough these days, but it's still doable if you're willing to grind.
I worked non stop for 6 years straight before getting extremely burned out but now my firm is in a position where I can take fairly large amounts of time off and the firm continues to make money. New lawyers routinely ask how I did it but there's really no secret other than hard work, people skills, and some hustle.
To blame the firm who was sending you cases for no reason other than to get them to someone who could make money on them and potentially get a referral fee is insane... No one forced you to take those cases. Did you ever try to reach out to other firms to increase the volume of PI referrals? Were you willing to take shit cases from other firms in exchange for volume?
I literally got away from CSLG by cold emailing firms, telling them we could handle their "shit cases" and demonstrating a track record of success. In exchange we became the go to referral firm for some of these larger firms, the cases improved, and we were able to handle such a quantity of volume that referrals from past clients alone became enough to sustain and even grow our practice.
EDIT: Adding that a lot of these firms post CSLG we were paying up to 50% referral fees on their shit cases simply in exchange for volume. I wouldn't say I made a ton on these cases but they enabled me to scale my firm at a speed and manner which would have never happened and the volume of cases created a situation where years later we now have a very healthy past client referral network. But that's hustling and it's hard and it's scary to take on hundreds of shit cases at 50% referral fees and hiring a fuckload of staff to handle it with no guarantee of success.
But there's no business without risk. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:42 PM Author: Trip aquamarine chapel idea he suggested this post adds value (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364318) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:43 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish wow xo 2025 pulling in some serious shitlaw scholarship. 180 poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364319) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:44 PM Author: Bull Headed Location good post good effort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364321) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:53 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria 180
This is true in every industry. There will always be people willing to work and always people doing the bare minimum. This is why outcomes are so disparate. You can have a guy like TSINAH who gets dealt a great hand and flops because he is unwilling to put in the work. But Kenny et alia can make millions off of dogshit leads. This is why the Glengarry leads are only for Closers! |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:56 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish it's funny bc TSINAH puts in hours and hours bullshitting with the client on the phone, but wont do actual work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364344) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:59 PM Author: Rusted Cuck And spending hours and hours of time bullshitting with the client is exactly what prevents you from being successful... These clients are not sophisticated and they love taking hours of your time if you let them because you're on contingency and it costs them nothing.
The less time you spend bullshit with a client, the more profitable the case becomes because you aren't wasting hrs for the same settlement you'll get barely talking to them. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:53 PM Author: clear beta abode organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364766) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:05 PM Author: mewling affirmative action the biggest problem with candy ride and tsinah is that they simply don't learn from their mistakes. time and time again we've seen them step on rakes and blame everyone but themselves. this type of accountable dodging is very common in people who also blame jews, blacks, etc. for everything.
99.9% of people who make it doing anything worthwhile have a story similar to pumoshithead. it requires admitting you don't know shit and made a ton of mistakes. without that no progress can be made. which is why every time one of them gets publicly pwned they blame someone else. candy ride's recent benchslap showed that. this is why spaceporn of all people has managed to grind out to being a success while they're still treading water.
their lack of diligence and work ethic is also pretty startling though. candy ride's constant written fuck ups in matters that were being scrutinized here was insane. i just cannot fathom it, and i tend to be a corner cutter myself sometimes. but i think this all grows out of their fatal flaw: hubris. they think they're already great and so they don't have exhibit even basic competence. not when they can just blame it on a jealous judge or bad referral to dodge any personal accountability. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:29 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364426) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:42 PM Author: Big pink stage death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364444) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:49 PM Author: Trip aquamarine chapel idea he suggested tsinah is an actual woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364450) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 4:35 PM Author: Swollen mother menage Why is a Human Resources Lawyer talking about me or ZZZ, actual trial lawyers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364556) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:25 PM Author: mewling affirmative action an actual trial lawyer would not have to rely on precedent intended for pro se plaintiffs to file 9 amended complaints because he can't draft a complaint that states a claim after 8 bites of the apple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364822) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:47 PM Author: Swollen mother menage You mad ZZZ is a top appellate lawyer now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364933) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 2:59 PM Author: crawly adventurous area 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364357) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:05 PM Author: mewling affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364373) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 3:48 PM Author: learning disabled copper base electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364448) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 4:14 PM Author: violet liquid oxygen center great poast.
you are right re work ethic. i've noticed this, particularly after i left biglaw (i noticed a change in biglaw associates, but even at their worst they know it's a bit sweatshoppy). Outside of biglaw (i am in midlaw now), i've noticed a marked change in the associate work ethic. and like you said, i don't blame them. firms have made it so hard to make partner that they probably figure why fucking bother. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:04 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364685) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 4:44 PM Author: balding degenerate I just wanted to chime in and say I'm really proud of you, brother. I remember you starting off and you're killing it. We should do lunch with Matt Gaetz soon, would be 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364583) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:04 PM Author: aromatic school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364686) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:43 PM Author: lascivious hunting ground This is the mentality of a winner vs the mentality of someone who blames others for their failures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364749) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:56 PM Author: clear beta abode organic girlfriend Do you cover this topic in your acclaimed book Running with the Bulls: How to Win Top-Dollar Settlements? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364780) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:09 PM Author: lascivious hunting ground No, a loser would never buy one of my books. I am the author for winners. The trial lawyer for the people. A trial lawyer for justice, you might even say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364812) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:50 PM Author: Swollen mother menage I don't understand referral fees. I don't think anyone does them or even thinks about them where I practice. It seems scammy to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364939) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:01 PM Author: Brindle pontificating market legend To be fair,
I saw this poast and came in hot ready to hate on you for writing a fucking novel (that's my schtick) but TITCR. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:54 PM Author: histrionic newt fortuitous meteor One of my favorite memories of practicing law was after trying a case with pumoshithead, we walked through the ghetto from the court to a brewery nearby and some Mexican guy accused us of being cops.
Then we had a bunch of beers at this shithole hole in the wall brewery, then when I drove home, for the first and only time in my life, I pissed in a cup while driving down the 405 to my home in Huntington Beach |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 7:56 PM Author: provocative claret cruise ship Am I the only one who remembers when CSLG referred a case to TSINAH, and TSINAH literally did not even show up to court? The bort was worried that something had happened to him for a while. LJL at the idea that TSINAH "had to take the case" or that he "puts more effort into referrals." TSINAH is simply a fat, lazy, fuckup who has failed at everything in his life and wants to blame everyone but himself for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49364952) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:18 PM Author: mewling affirmative action oh yeah lol. idk if its the same case but it makes sense he would just fail to appear after accidentally texting her calling her a bitch.
i remember being worried about tsinah because that was in the midst of his other troubles. talk about guaranteeing you'll never get another referral again. |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 9:03 PM Author: Swollen mother menage It's 180 how you only attack and lie about Christian white people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49365085) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: mewling affirmative action a few months ago someone made a thread trying to dunk on tsinah for this and i said it was pathetic to try to embarass a poaster about an event from years ago.
you two chuckleheads have now decided to rehash it out of nowhere and look like retards, once again. let it go and move on. when tbf crops up to side with cslg over putative nazis (only when theres not a shekel to be made hehe!) you know you're fucking done here. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2025 3:35 PM Author: violet liquid oxygen center you're talking to a skilled trial lawyer, dickhead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49366650) |
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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:51 PM Author: histrionic newt fortuitous meteor This never happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49365060) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2025 6:49 AM Author: jet university community account God I fucking hate lawyers you all deserve to die and I hope you burn in hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49365673) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2025 7:37 AM Author: jet university community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49367892) |
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Date: December 4th, 2025 10:48 PM Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πΊπΈ π΅π±) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5788141&forum_id=2most#49485047) |