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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
180
Exhilarant vermilion pozpig
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
much more than that
Swashbuckling Blood Rage
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Appetizing Chapel Mood
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Yellow charismatic jew
  11/09/25
...
obsidian kitty spot
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Exhilarant vermilion pozpig
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
aquamarine adulterous volcanic crater
  11/09/25
...
wild gaped sound barrier doctorate
  11/09/25
why who is he?
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
charcoal bawdyhouse
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Exhilarant vermilion pozpig
  11/09/25
...
turquoise meetinghouse
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cr he blows
heady umber site gaming laptop
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Pale Space Idiot
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Pale Space Idiot
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
180 azn
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
snowy contagious elastic band
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Scarlet abode philosopher-king
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Scarlet abode philosopher-king
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
ivory fighting plaza
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Supple amethyst tank
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Fragrant University
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
vibrant principal's office
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
snowy contagious elastic band
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
ivory fighting plaza
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
heady umber site gaming laptop
  11/09/25
*destroying
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Swashbuckling Blood Rage
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
heady umber site gaming laptop
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Swashbuckling Blood Rage
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Soul-stirring indecent nibblets sanctuary
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
know-it-all liquid oxygen
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
Jews maf
ivory fighting plaza
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Scarlet abode philosopher-king
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Scarlet abode philosopher-king
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
heady umber site gaming laptop
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Fragrant University
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
know-it-all liquid oxygen
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
well-lubricated beady-eyed point
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
well-lubricated beady-eyed point
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Fragrant University
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
balding rigor messiness
  11/09/25
lol
well-lubricated beady-eyed point
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
Mentally impaired duck-like heaven
  11/09/25
...
ivory fighting plaza
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
arrogant gay wizard field
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
snowy contagious elastic band
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
heady umber site gaming laptop
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
vibrant principal's office
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
know-it-all liquid oxygen
  11/09/25
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obsidian kitty spot
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
balding rigor messiness
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ivory fighting plaza
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Big Chartreuse Shitlib Crackhouse
  11/10/25
lol
Magenta hateful parlour
  11/10/25
Lmao
Soul-stirring indecent nibblets sanctuary
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Exhilarant vermilion pozpig

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Blood Rage

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Appetizing Chapel Mood

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Yellow charismatic jew

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: obsidian kitty spot



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Exhilarant vermilion pozpig

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: aquamarine adulterous volcanic crater

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: wild gaped sound barrier doctorate



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: charcoal bawdyhouse

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Exhilarant vermilion pozpig



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: turquoise meetinghouse



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: heady umber site gaming laptop

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Pale Space Idiot



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Pale Space Idiot



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: 180 azn

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: snowy contagious elastic band

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Scarlet abode philosopher-king

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Scarlet abode philosopher-king

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: ivory fighting plaza

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Supple amethyst tank

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Fragrant University

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: vibrant principal's office

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: snowy contagious elastic band

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: ivory fighting plaza

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: heady umber site gaming laptop

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Blood Rage

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: heady umber site gaming laptop

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Blood Rage

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Soul-stirring indecent nibblets sanctuary

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: know-it-all liquid oxygen

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: ivory fighting plaza

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Scarlet abode philosopher-king

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Scarlet abode philosopher-king

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: heady umber site gaming laptop

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Fragrant University

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: know-it-all liquid oxygen

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: well-lubricated beady-eyed point

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: well-lubricated beady-eyed point

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Fragrant University

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: balding rigor messiness

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: well-lubricated beady-eyed point

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Mentally impaired duck-like heaven

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: ivory fighting plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: arrogant gay wizard field

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: snowy contagious elastic band

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: heady umber site gaming laptop

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: vibrant principal's office

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: know-it-all liquid oxygen

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: obsidian kitty spot



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: balding rigor messiness

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: ivory fighting plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Big Chartreuse Shitlib Crackhouse

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Magenta hateful parlour

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Soul-stirring indecent nibblets sanctuary

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416774)