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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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180 stubborn parlour milk
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
18000
180 stubborn parlour milk
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
dashing nursing home
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
dashing nursing home
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
dashing nursing home
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
180 stubborn parlour milk
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
dashing nursing home
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
dashing nursing home
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180 stubborn parlour milk
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Mustard internal respiration area
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
apoplectic corn cake
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Mustard internal respiration area
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apoplectic corn cake
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
awkward resort partner
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
bat shit crazy crotch
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Mustard internal respiration area
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Flesh Skinny Woman
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Mustard internal respiration area
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180 stubborn parlour milk
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
scarlet useless brakes
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
soggy piazza
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Mustard internal respiration area
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scarlet useless brakes
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180 stubborn parlour milk
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180 stubborn parlour milk
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
dashing nursing home
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
autistic forum mood
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: dashing nursing home

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: dashing nursing home

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: dashing nursing home

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: dashing nursing home

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: dashing nursing home

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: apoplectic corn cake

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: apoplectic corn cake



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: awkward resort partner

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: bat shit crazy crotch

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Flesh Skinny Woman

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: scarlet useless brakes

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: soggy piazza

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Mustard internal respiration area



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: scarlet useless brakes



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: 180 stubborn parlour milk



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: dashing nursing home

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: autistic forum mood

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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