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Watch Candy Ride/ZZZ get bench slapped for 15 straight minutes by FL Appeals Ct
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:23 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit candy ride/zzz starts immediately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvl_yPUjJCY
this is even better than spaceporn's honk hearing
candy ride filed a shitty brief, court rejected it for being shit so he had to file another, but it was still shit. at oral argument he spends the entire time arguing about his shitty lawyering, never even getting to the merits of the case.
against the hot bench grilling him on his god awful lawyering (something candy ride/zzz has a lot of experience with), candy ride/zzz repeatedly "respectfully" accuses the court of splitting hairs and not being fair. |
Date: August 14th, 2025 10:24 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested meh, I clicked, it's boring... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186526) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit you will not be disappointed. candy ride is exactly as obstinate, stubborn and stupid irl as he is here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186536) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:29 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested this shit is dragging on, his voice is monotone, the video is 52 minutes long. I don't have time for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186543) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit zzz's bit is only 15min (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186555) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 5:57 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49201688) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 6:01 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49201720) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186638) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:27 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Candy Ride asking “does the guy’s last name begin with a Z? I forget” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186537) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit odd case but his (now former) partner didn't join him at his new firm, which opened up months after this. do you think it has anything to do with the fact that every time zzz has appeared in court he's gotten slapped and nearly sanctioned for dogshit work product? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186553) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:33 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested how many times has he been sanctioned? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186556) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he almost got sanctioned and called EPAH begging him not to. im not aware of him ever being sanctioned. but literally every case he's been in the judge has scolded him for dogshit pleadings. epah and tsinah's cases were replete with amended filings for shit like this. my favorite with when he labeled every batestamp the same lol.
at first i gave him the benefit of the doubt of just being nervous or whatever. but here we are at an appellate court heading into an oral argument and he can't fucking get it right. the guy is dumber than dogshit. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:45 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested I assume this is par for the course in shitlaw though. the Judges probably just assume half the lawyers are braindead mouth breathers and look at their jobs as mostly babysitting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186602) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:53 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit absolutely not. that's what makes this so funny. just look at how the other lawyers in the vid perform.
that's the thing -- shitlaw is *SO BAD* that you have to be *PARTICULARLY* bad for a judge to get frustrated with you. and *EVERY TIME* he's been in court this has happened.
he sucks. are you a lawyer? jw because if you are and read his briefs and his performance it's very obvious he sucks that might not be apparent to laymans. this isn't out of bias, note that every here was on team EPAH even though he's despised generally. zzz's lawyering is so bad people will say EPAH did a better job -- that's only possible if there's no defense of zzz at all. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Indigo national security agency yeah, it seems like he's trying to do state court commercial litigation stuff. the quality of lawyering there is not biglaw-quality but it's generally higher tier than DUI lawyers or traffic ticket monkeys or whatever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188093) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Possibly never bc gunner saud “nearly sanctioned”. So it’s possible he’s never been sanctioned at all not once. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186566) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:36 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo lol at him getting yelled at for trying to rely on shit outside the record. Lmaooooooooo. Oh lord. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186563) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he's such a dunning kruger midwit. he keeps thinking he can outsmart the judge.
"can you cite to evidence outside the record?"
"well uh you see the other courts didn't do THEIR job and uh pleading standards and uh you're asking me to prove a negative and..."
"you didn't answer the question." |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested timestamp plz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186573) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:50 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire It’s early on when he is bitching about how the trial judges are all fools and he tried to share an injoke with the justice because he doesn’t understand that justices have sympathy for trial judges and will try to help them because they know it’s a hard job that doesn’t pay as much as it should and more good judges are needed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187232) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Fluffy becky goal in life This is like a mental health patient trying to riff about the nurses with the psychiatrists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188909) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 8:38 PM Author: slippery cuckold 4:48 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49202176) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood This lawyer is incredibly fucking retarded. Even SP did better than this guy.
That being said this guy is not Candy Ride. I have a strong guy feeling it's just some other dude. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:41 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit it is 100% candy ride.
spaceporn did infinitely better for one very simple reason: he actually had the opportunity to talk about his case. candy ride could not even get to the merits because his filing was shit pure shit. this is an unmitigated embarrassment. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:43 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood I agree but I don't think it's Candy Ride. They seem too different. He uses too many big words Candy Ride doesn't know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186594) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:46 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i know to a certainty it's candy ride.
candy ride went to chicago after all. he's dumb in a very peculiar way. i think a lot of it is arrogant and obstinance (surprise surprise!) he digs in his heels and refuses to consider anything. with the discover case he ran back her to talk about how the judge with a stupid ttt grad. listen to him here getting mad at the court for "splitting hairs." he can't get out of his own way. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:50 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood This is all true but Candy Ride never talks like this. It's just not him. Different diction. It's just a different dumb guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186626) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:54 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit oh well if his dictation is different i guess that settles it. guess cslg, chandler, epah, and tsinah all copping to it at different points is irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186635) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood who caught GJR returning under an unknown moniker at least 7 times from retirement? That's right I did. I have an incredible knack for this shit. Trust my instincts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186640) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i've seen you misidentify people way more. also as i said i know it to a certainty. people talk. and candy ride is not well liked so people talk a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186647) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood some of that was me joking around like it became a meme after a while (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186651) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: slate pea-brained library coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186683) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:44 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested what's the evidence this is Candy Ride again?
I remember it being him but I dont remember why. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:49 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (Zachary zermay) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186618) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:50 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit multiple poasters outed him that were involved in his cases
he frequently says "i" when talking about zzz when he's flustered
all known facts about candy ride line up (florida, uchicago, etc)
there's no doubt he's a poaster considering he repped rt against epah and repped tsinah
he was in a video about his grandma's house getting hit by a hurricane and poasted in on here
during live hearings he immediately jumped in threads about it after it was concluded passionately defending zzz's performance and knowing details about what happened despite not being in the video chat
there's many more things but he's associated irl with a lot of poasters and has burnt bridges so of course they've copped to it. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:47 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo I’m filing a conversion claim against zzz for making me listen to his retarded ass get repeatedly pwnd by Florida judges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186609) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:49 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood If you make a sale, even one in which you are defrauded, and you complete that sale it is no longer a conversion case imo bc you transferred title of property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186619) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:54 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Stick your balls up my ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186633) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:53 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire What kind of horseshit goes on in Florida jfc this is all trial court demurrer level stuff and ZZZ had three chances to plead it correctly and now he’s basically arguing whether he pled the black letter law elements after three chances (and he didn’t.) Come on man. Can any monkey practice law in Florida? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186631) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood The judge is also hilarious for being an incredible hardo. Seems like the "aren't iPads crazy" guy or sundry. Judge lifting heavy weights and blasting RATM before he goes into these sessions to tear some rando a new asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186645) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 8:44 PM Author: slippery cuckold cr these judges are just tearing apart lawyers on both sides (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49202183) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM Author: Hairraiser Misanthropic Dilemma Fortuitous Meteor ZZZ is literally the worst lawyer I know and I know a lot. I can hear his voice shaking as he argues this thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186641) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:57 PM Author: boyish half-breed idea he suggested is this the real CSLG? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186644) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo I think so, lmaoooo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186649) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:00 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood how is he not more prepared? He's worse than your average Kill Tony guest is at comedy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186653) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:05 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit it bugged me how he went to "fuck cslg what a kike" after you gave up on him. now look he's partnered up with a black blm defund guy after spending the last 10 years typing racist rants online.
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762548&mc=42&forum_id=2
the guy has no fucking spine or principles. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire ZZZ you can’t do these kinds of low stakes cases unless you have a significant number of income generating cases also. And to date you don’t. You are gonna end up taking three computer programming jobs at one time if you don’t wise up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186646) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood overemployed programmer is the new DLA Piper (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186652) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: slate pea-brained library coldplay fan I don't consider myself overemployed. I'm optimally employed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186694) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:00 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit it's especially difficult to operate on volume when it takes 5+ amendments for every pleading you file (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186655) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Literally laughed out loud. Florida courts must be … generous … |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 7:37 PM Author: Indigo national security agency loll
I remember when he thought he could get out of ever facing the music on EPAH's sanctions motion by repeatedly amending his complaint requiring (in theory) EPAH to continually re-file his MTD ad infinitum. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:09 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple ZZZ is not Candy Ride. This is spaceporn level shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186681) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Thanks, trusted poaster Florent Geroux (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186687) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Aka candy ride (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186724) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:24 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit odd case he changed his moniker for the first time ever tonight! wow! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186730) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit you're right it's not spaceporn level shit candy ride. he was able to get through an appellate oral argument with a complete record and focus on the merits of his claim without the judge getting exasperated and explaining 1L civil procedure to him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186722) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Watching the “splitting hairs” bit now. Do not accuse appellate judges of “splitting hairs”. An atty in my jurisdiction tried the same horseshit and enraged the Justice. I had the benefit of listening to that oral argument and winced at the time. And here ZZZ had a dozen opportunities to concede which would be the right thing to do and instead he doubled down in front of a justice. Does ZZZ have some aggressive form of autism? |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Yeah it’s autism.
I would love to have ZZZ defending one of my cases. He would literally double my recovery. Has he ever tried a jury case? |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Oof. Milquetoast. Z I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. You just piss people off and don’t know how to read the judge. If you stopped crapping on more experienced attys and tried to learn from them you might improve. But after seeing this I’m not sure you can. Nothing wrong with another line of work. Insurance adjuster pays well enough I think. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:22 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo He clearly is on the spectrum. And not in a good way like the rest of us. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186721) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: slate pea-brained library coldplay fan LJL is this spaceporn?
Although, to your credit, anyone who's read your poetry would naturally conclude that you *fully* understand the term 'milquetoast' |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:25 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Didnt you hire ZZZ repeatedly? And “won every case”? Good judgment call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186732) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:30 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186748) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186758) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:38 PM Author: slate pea-brained library coldplay fan It was a great judgment call. In fact, the only bad judgment call made during the ordeal was me succumbing to Satan's tricks and remaining in law for as long as I did. I should've switched over to tech much earlier. But, I'm also a rarity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186774) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:08 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit having an autist waste hundreds of hour over a trivial amount of debt was certainly a great deal for you.
how much did zzz pocket from that? |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:24 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit but he said *respectfully*!
*respectfully* you're not being fair! *respectfully* you're splitting hairs! |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:26 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood EPAH does this too in oral arguments but he does it with a lot of charm and deference. All lawyers have to learn how to 'push back' against the panel at some point. EPAH is always firm but he comes prepared with lots of relevant info so the judge usually sits back and takes it in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186735) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:31 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire EPAH actually had training and presumably shut the fuck up at some point early on and listened to others and cried over his failure and strove to improve. This could have been an easy experience for Z but he belligerently made it significantly harder than it had to be just because he couldn’t read the room. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186750) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:35 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit it might not be apparent as a nonlawyer but candy ride is doing the equivalent of saying "respectfully you're an asshole" which is why the judge pauses out of sheer incredulousness and repeats the question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186766) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood no I could tell it did not go well for him. I think the larger issue wasn't his tone it was that he didn't have any points on the merits. If you're going to lack decorum it's probably fine if you actually have something to say. Much worse was he was totally unprepared. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186776) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:54 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire It was his tone. If that were better he would have had a moment of credibility on the merits. Even though he fucked up the whole argument with his autism, the justice was still showing mercy by asking opposing counsel if they should let him proceed to another attempt to replead yet again. If he or his colleague were “listening” they would have picked up that thread on rebuttal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186827) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:54 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit no, it's that he was rudely dismissive to a direct question. this essentially what happened.
judge: "you said there are 10 apples but you only gave me 1"
candy ride: "you're splitting hairs."
judge: "it's not splitting the hairs at all, you said there are 10 apples."
candy ride: "respectfully i disagree that it's not splitting hairs or nitpicky"
judge: "explain how that's splitting hairs. do you wish you would have just used different words?"
candy: "well we shouldn't be concerned about tricks of the trade here..."
judge: "you're implying that this is hyper-technical. i get that. i'm asking you to explain why."
candy: "well because the trial courts fucked up and you're being unfair."
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this is where it ends and the judge is about to roast candy ride again but is stopped because of time.
all he had to fucking do is say "sorry judge i meant that's 1 example of the 10 of the apples, i'll get you the other 9 tomorrow." the judge *EXPLICITLY* guides him to this by hand by asking if he should have used different words.
candy ride is just dug in and pissed at the trial courts. he's doing the same say he does here, just being obstinate and refusing to just admit to a fairly tiny mistake. instead of simply saying "whoops haha we fucked up an exhibit my bad haha happens a lot with me lol i'm pretty dumb" he repeats over and over again that the judge is being "nitpicky." even if the judge was (he wasn't), you don't say that. if a judge asks a stupid question you do your best to answer it. you can't just say "lol ur honor that's dumb moving on..." which is what candy ride did, and that's why the judge is fucking pissed at him. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:56 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186835) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Why was his client never paid for the shipment?
I thought his barcode analogy was underrated. It was like sticking a bar code for bananas on a T bone steak. And the autistic hardo judge was looking AKSHUALLY A SALE WAS COMPLETE.
I'm with Candy Ride here. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit that's a total different thing than what i'm talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186851) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:05 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Yes, yes it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186858) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:18 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple What law school taught you appellate advocacy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186902) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:21 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit lmao oh candy ride. always falling back on that 170 lsat and chicago degree. brother it doesn't matter if i went to yale or cooley i know enough not to repeatedly tell a judge he's being nitpicky rather than simply answering his question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186910) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:23 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple What do you know if you have never appeared in front of a judge by yourself or had elite training? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186913) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:28 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p93w7MpbZRw
if your elite chicago training brought you to getting laughed out of every court you've stepped in, of what use was the training? |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:23 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire I think you are best served by sitting this one out Z. Take the notes. You really fucked up here. Jfc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186916) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:25 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple I haven't even watched the video. I have been busy watching Back to the Frontier with my wife. It is a 180 show. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186919) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:42 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo I wouldn’t be able to watch myself shit the bed either lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186931) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:43 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he immediately changed his moniker and his been sperging in other threads. comes back an hour later:
hey guise i didn't watch lol did that guy's name start with a z? i was busy fucking my wife but i think he did a great job the judges were probably just mad about how much smarter he is than them. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:53 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186945) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire I don’t get why he didn’t see the judge was urging him to concede on a matter of common sense and he wouldn’t. Don’t care that his client was sitting right there — the point is to advocate not to try to “get thru” the strafe from an objectively bad pleading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186739) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Cr even ur dumbass did better than this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186741) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he behaves the same way here. he digs his heels in and gets sassy like the autistic twink he is. the panel was initially very kind to him considering his dogshit pleadings (conversion claim was lol) but when asked direct questions he just said "stfu you're being a nitpicky faggot."
why not just explain? or apologize and offer to supplement? anything other than responding "bro it's nbd don't work about it" when a judge asks you a direct fucking question. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: Claret trailer park laser beams I think he did fine, but I don't think he's Candy Ride (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186740) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:31 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i have to hand to the mpc crew: you are loyal. even when one of your based alt-right white supremacists saddles up with a BLM+defund+wewazkingz guy you stick together.
it's almost like you have no principles, spine, or convictions at all! |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:10 AM Author: Claret trailer park laser beams @grok is steadfast loyalty characteristic of people lacking principles, spine and conviction? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186875) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:13 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit fair enough. you place loyalty to your crew of alt-right retards above the alt-right convictions you've spent the last 10 years spamming 24/7.
congratulations! you take online flame wars more importantly than i could have possibly fathomed. i suppose that explains why you're lead by jewish flw and see no contradictions with that either. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:34 AM Author: Claret trailer park laser beams Both of the things you're describing -- loyalty to other posters and discussing alt-right views on the board -- fall broadly within the ambit of online flame wars, so all you can really say is that we consider some online flame wars more important than other online flame wars, which is trivially true of anyone I'm sure and doesn't support an assessment of the absolute (rather than relative) importance of any particular flame war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186925) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:42 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i'd say my ideology and core beliefs are more important to me than internet flame wars. but thanks for admitting that your beliefs are nothing more a method to squabble about things on the internet. can't say i'm surprised: but wow! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186932) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:52 AM Author: Claret trailer park laser beams Link to me (or really anyone) expressing ideological opposition to being friendly with a dood who was mistaken for another dood who went into business with a black dood?
You can't honestly accuse every person you label "alt-right" of hypocrisy on account of failing to adhere to the values you describe as "alt-right" |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:01 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit instead of compiling the countless threads of candy ride being a racist i'd rather just poast this video of him being a retard and shitty lawyer.
unlike candy ride i don't have to supply a record! i can just say it! |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: nudist theater trust fund Does a day go by on xo where druggyatt isn't outing people? I think it's time this obsessive stalker is banned. Emailing rach now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186775) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:41 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood boner police used tbtp's first name in a thread today you didn't say anything.
"but she's a dumb whore so no one cares!"
Stay inconsistent, Frank. Another L for you. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:42 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe good catch--she'll totally fuck you now, you retarded kike loser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186788) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:43 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood I have homemade sex tapes of us not that it's any of your business. In before "this is not the win you think it is." But nice try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186793) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe you're a retarded ugly kike and so is box (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186797) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:51 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood my penis is thicker than your wrists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186814) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:52 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe no
youre a retarded kike |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:56 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood No u r (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186834) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:57 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe no
I'm White
you are a retarded kike |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:12 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood I'm Mayflower white ur an ugly potatohead who came way later (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186886) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:43 PM Author: nudist theater trust fund Oh is there an exception in the rules that if someone posts someone else's name you personally get to out people? My bad. What a loophole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186791) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:44 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood I didn't out anyone. Your boy did though and now you're complaining about "outing" in general. You blank bumped a thread with outtable info in it. Totally inconsistent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186794) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: nudist theater trust fund I don't know that poasters first name so how would I know? plus I probably didn't see the poast but I think outing people is against the rules yeah? I think the rules should apply to everyone. Sorry I can't tell you 2 apart your monikers look similar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186802) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:48 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood lol nice save you literally bumped a BP poast with outtable info and then complained about 'people outing' you two are tied at the hip and bump each other constantly all the time now that you're called out as inconsistent you're spewing nonsense everyone knows you lost this one but I don't autistically save receipts in a dossier so next time you say 'show proof' I won't have this on hand because I will have forgotten about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186805) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:49 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe lay off the adderall you retarded kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186807) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:51 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood It's okay I won 1-0 vs Frank it's over this one is a W it's going in the dossier to be presented in future arguments years from now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186813) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:52 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe no
youre a retarded kike |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:56 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Dude an L is an L respect the game. Your side lost, we get a point. I'm playing by your rules now. We keep receipts of who got 'pwnd' forever and when we have a dispute we necrobump them forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186833) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:57 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe no
you are a retarded kike |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:21 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood *checks notes*
Actually sir you are a retarded kike. Not me sir. You have been mistaken. Furthermore my penis is thicker than your wrists. |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: nudist theater trust fund you bumped this thread with outable info ok ban us both rach (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186842) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:00 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood I at least tried to say that it's not him. I did the right thing you directly blank bumped outtable info. But I am willing to go down with you we can scramble pw in unison and call it a fair trade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186846) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: nudist theater trust fund I have never outed anyone or posted anyones personal info - that is against the rules on xo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186850) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:05 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Me neither bud guess we both made the dean's list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186856) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit ive seen you out spaceporn a trillion times flw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187477) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:06 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit 1) he asked me to https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762548&mc=42&forum_id=2#49186182
2) it's not outing if candy ride =/= zzz as you all claim!
3) he's already fucking outed
4) stfu you fags spam out people all the time. after watching you do it for years i no longer have qualms about eye for an eye. get fucked ljl all you mpc faggots are FUCKING RETARDED. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:13 AM Author: nudist theater trust fund Looks like you are outing and breaking the rules. Rach is probably going to have to ban you. This is every day now. You really need time away from xo and drug rehab. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186890) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit considering he made me a mod and also outs people when they're being hateful deranged faggots i think i'll be ok. maybe if you weren't so poor you could keep the mpc servers running uecker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186898) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:17 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood *blind loyalty simp crew bump*
All MPC savages understand is war. I think they're starting to respect us given that we are now fighting fire with fire. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:20 AM Author: nudist theater trust fund Date: August 15th, 2025 12:15 AM Author: alpha+outgoing 24/7 thingdoer introvert (gunneratttt)
considering he made me a mod and also outs people when they're being hateful deranged faggots i think i'll be ok. maybe if you weren't so poor you could keep the mpc servers running uecker.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2#49186898
Wow now he posted my last name. Anyone have rach's current email? |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:23 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit have the MPC general counsel candy ride file a notice of email demand with the department of internet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186918) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:13 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186891) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Okay. I watched as much as I could stomach. Z, dude, you need to make sure you have liability coverage. I’m not saying you are gonna get sued for malpractice or anything like that, but you need to have basic coverage. Everyone should have basic coverage. You can’t go into litigating business disputes at your level without having coverage. I am not trying to insult you — hell I have always had coverage myself — but you need to have it if you don’t. And that includes tail coverage as I assume your days of rambling from place to place haven’t ended yet. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:01 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he needs to stop being a lawyer, honestly. or accept that he's not as smart as he thinks he is and work on being diligent and humble. he runs into this with every case: shitty pleadings and getting snippy about it.
there's not a very high bar to being an ok attorney. idk what his problem is. everyone fucks up, i certainly have many times. but at some point if you're fucking up, filing frequent amendments, getting bench slapped... either you're not being diligent or you just don't have the ability to do the job. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:11 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire The latter probably and you are correct about it not being a high bar. Basically if being a trial lawyer doesn’t come naturally to you then just put in a ton of work and you’ll be at least decent. And the workload is double or triple when you are early on in a legal career. He doesn’t want to put in the work because it is often painful and humbling and so he won’t get better. But more than that, I’m really concerned about how he completely whiffed here as you described earlier itt. That pleading issue was a situation he should know how to get out of deftly by any measure, particularly in light of his prestigious law school training, yet he sounded completely tone deaf and autistic like he was posting on xo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186878) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:19 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit in both the conversion and evidence parts the judge very gently guides him to the right answer but zzz has his heels dug in. he refuses to take an L and just makes excuses. that scoff he made when he mentioned one was a senior judge was so infuriating. he did the same thing with the discover case when he ran back her to say the judge was just pissed because she's a ttt grad and knew he's smarter.
i've seen a lot of pretty stupid lawyers wind up doing an ok job. all you have to do is be humble and learn from your mistakes. candy ride seems to have the cognitive horsepower to be a lawyer. but that doesn't matter if you just half ass everything because you think you're smarter than everyone else.
he got no offered as a 2L and it's getting easier to udnerstand why. it doesn't matter how smart you were, you know when another lawyer handed him something to correct he displayed this same entitled arrogance. i mean, if this is how he behaves at a fucking appellate court, imagine what he's like in the office. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:40 AM Author: mischievous provocative chapel lol what was he supposed to do? i've never been exposed to the practice of law at this level...like i would just assume you're completely fucked on appeal if you plead the wrong cause of action and are trying to rely on shit outside the record but i've never had occasion to confirm those things firsthand. was kicking it back to the lower court and giving him a chance to amend a possible outcome? it wouldn't be in my state.
also, lmao @ the guy in the blue suit at 43:20 who can't stand still and starts hopping around like he has to take a piss or something. he is at least as funny as ZZZ. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:48 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i havent read the pleadings, but what i father from the oral arg (and what we've seen from candy ride in the past) is that he fucked up the complaint 3 straight times and eventually the court said gtfo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186994) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:58 AM Author: mischievous provocative chapel yeah, so he's Done There and I can't really begrudge him pushing back on the judges trying to guide him to the "right answer" when the right answer is to toss his shitty complaint. at least he sort of goes down swinging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187001) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:03 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit but he never even gets there. he gets stuck on a minor issue and wastes all his time on it.
also lol just fucking lol i hadnt watched rhe rebuttal yet. that dude is coked to the gills. that's independently hilarious. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:25 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire The crazy thing is the judge would have given him an opportunity to replead a count if he had just acted right and argued properly. That seems apparent from the judge’s line of questioning to opposing counsel. But neither Z nor his co-counsel picked up on that lifeline. Hell his co-counsel couldn’t even answer a direct question from the judge. Bro, you have to answer straight up even if it hurts. That’s how you keep your credibility. You answer, take the L, THEN redirect if you can. Don’t avoid the question so badly the judge repeatedly calls you out on the failure to answer. That’s oral argument 101. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:33 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood "One shilling was thrown down and the cravat was taken."
A conversion was performed.
Guy mentions how much fun it is to debate these judges, says he adores the challenges. Jfc these judges hate him. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:36 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit "I ADORE THAT QUESTION"
"how about you ANSWER the question"
jfc it's so painful to watch |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire You adore puppies. Not appellate justices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187234) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:14 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187345) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:53 AM Author: Grizzly abode No connection to this case and don't know who these people are but the tall handsome blonde guy did very well despite the panel plainly being bought off by appellee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186943) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:58 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186952) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:12 AM Author: Grizzly abode i dont understand how you cant state a claim.
i have never in more than 10 years lost a motion on failure to state a claim even when shitty ID or midlaw firms bring their shitty motions every time.
i had to replead once when OC was biglaw and actually good and knew more about some niche defense/issue that i didn't.
but even in fact pleading jurisdictions, you take the elements, look at what case law says satisfies those elements, and just plead something similar. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:18 AM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood This would require having a clue (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49186970) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:46 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo These judges were just jealous of zzz’s law school and smarts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187164) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:53 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire He comes across like that here too. I just wanna punch him for trying to cross me here on lawyer issues. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:56 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo It’s insane how someone from a literal top 5 does a biglaw summer, which doesn’t entail any work, and is so awkward and unlikeable that he gets no offered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187242) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:40 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire What was the firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187398) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Probably Greenberg Traurig lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187706) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: Indigo national security agency Greenberg Traurig's was RT's firm, right? Did he ever end up getting disbarred? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49189306) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:07 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple The video is grainy and hard to see but it looks like the judge giving him a hard time went to Florida law school lol. The other judges seem to agree with ZZZ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187259) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:38 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit yeah dude it really sucks that you keep getting fucked over because everyone is so jealous of how smart you are and what an amazing law school you went to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187295) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple Sometimes the facts are mostly undisputed and it is just a legal question about whether you have a cause of action or not.
You could plead the elements of some claim, but if those pleadings are false or it gets dismissed on summary judgment after more time and expense, is that a better outcome? |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:05 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit compared to your former partner, who looks like hes gakked to the gills, getting bench slapped for essentially saying "SOMETHING WRONG"?
the best part about all you mpc faggots is you're too stubborn and arrogant to ever just walk away. this is exactly like discover last year. you cant help yourself. we all just watched you get EVISCERATED. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:09 AM Author: Grizzly abode how did he get eviscerated. didnt that case end up getting dismissed or something without tsinah having to pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187332) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:11 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i thought we were talking about this case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187336) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Grizzly abode you said 'this is exactly like discover' and then said he got eviscerated. one would reasonably conclude that it is your opinion he got eviscerated in discover, if it is exactly like it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187342) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:22 AM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew wow great legal analysis ZZZ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187364) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo lmao. why is this fucking assclown trying to talk about himself in the third person? everyone knows it's him.
"here's the thing, zzz DID REALLY GOOD in the Discover Litigation." |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:30 AM Author: Grizzly abode it was a simple question directed to gunner which he will not respond to substantively or directly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187381) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:39 AM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Any monkey w a law license can impede collections efforts. Yes I know what I’m talking about here. It’s usually done as a favor also. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187396) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:05 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit its hilarious you quoted me for one part and paraphrased the other. because if you quoted both it's clear im talking about *THIS* video.
"we all just watched you get EVISCERATED."
"we all just watched" i.e. the video in this thread, not the unrecorded hearing from a year and a half ago, obviously. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:38 PM Author: Grizzly abode Yes exactly. He got eviscerated in this video. And it is "exactly like discover". you are saying he got similarly eviscerated in discover. im asking you how he got similarly eviscerated in discover. no answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187669) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit yes. in the discover case in like a two page brief he miscited his chief authority and when the judge looked it up it didn't even say what he said it said. he she benchslapped him and was frustrated with his incompetence. just like what happened here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188063) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:29 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple How do you define benchslap? You use that term a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188068) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire We KNOW you have no idea what that means, Z. The fact that you don’t know is the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188094) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:10 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple Who is ZZZ's former partner? He has the black guy now it looks like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187333) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:02 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit Matthew Larosiere, the coked out guy who delivers the rebuttal. The guy who lists your (old) firm as his employer. Here you are looking like an autistic twink next to him and one of your ridiculous clients.
Ring any bells yet? I mean, he's in the fucking video itt.
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:02 AM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew oy vey shut it down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187450) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire That guy is a poster here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187726) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i doubt it he actually seems pretty chill (outside his coked up shit in this vid but he's probably pretty nervous). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188066) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Poor dude. He was thinking “I’m gonna bring ENERGY” and he missed the opportunity to make a concession so maybe the team could go back to the drawing board and plead some new counts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188074) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he did concede that "the drafter" (i.e. not him) might have failed a bit. he was definitely trying to bring some energy after candy ride pissed off the entire bench. too bad they weren't interested in riffing about the common law history of conversion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188089) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:44 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire I didn’t catch “the drafter” bit. That’s great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188117) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:38 AM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew can confirm that Candy Ride = ZZZ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187221) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:45 AM Author: Talking Faggotry Thanks, dot comma dot comma dot comma dot comma dot comma dot comma dot dot dot comma dot comma comma comma dot comma dot dot comma dot comma dot comma dot dot dot comma dot comma dot comma dot dot dot dot dot comma dot comma dot dot comma dot comma dot dot comma dot comma dot comma dot dot dot comma dot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187224) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:46 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo You’re clearly wrong, candy ride even criticized zzz above. And they went to the same law school so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187225) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:01 AM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew nope. Candy Ride has a cat that he's inadvertently posted pics of here that is also the same cat in a pic with ZZZ. Also, Candy Ride has posted pics that show claw marks all over his couch from the cat. Odd case that Candy Ride and ZZZ have the exact same couch and cat. Pure coincidence. Maybe they're gay lovers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187251) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:30 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187289) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:42 AM Author: peach keepsake machete temple There is no evidence that ZZZ has or had a cat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187296) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:59 AM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (Not zzz) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187310) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:01 AM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit theres no evidence he has a brain either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187314) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:14 AM Author: Wonderful lake stage Just when you think xo can’t get any more mentally ill, this thread comes along and bodies all the other craziness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187484) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:07 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit candy ride/zzz has been following me around teasing me for being a wage cuck, so i decided to see how his practice has been going.
and oh, what we found... |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple Attempted outting is not a proportional response to wage cuck teasing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187622) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:17 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit youve outed spaceporn and others. how about you just stop being a faggot. youve already been outed anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187634) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple I cannot ever remember outting spaceporn or others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187646) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:35 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood who remembers? Just let go, man. it's over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187655) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit i'm not holding onto anything. he said he hasn't outed people, but he's outed people for years. if he doesn't want me to point that out, he should stop whining about how it's so unfair this is getting poasted after he did the exact same thing to spaceporn and benzo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188078) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:35 PM Author: plum zippy old irish cottage Shitigating looks so degrading and painful that I don't even hold it against ZZZ for doing a shitty job.
Also, is he the same guy that sued xoxo Dr. Tony Huge? If so, I nevertheless, want to make it clear that I hate him and that xoxo Dr. Tony Huge pwns him in every way by at least 40-50x. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:39 PM Author: Self-absorbed Copper Hunting Ground Gas Station Feel bad for him. Practice tip: plead in the alternative. Fraud, breach of contract, unjust enrichment etc. You can plead in the alternative. Even if you didn’t meet the heightened standard for fraud, something like unjust enrichment would have survived. This way you can survive an MtD and a later MSJ even if you’re not sure of all the underlying facts or what theory fits properly. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a complaint that alleged only conversion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187674) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Excuse me buster, who here has the Chicago JD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187701) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:48 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple Maybe the facts just didn't meet the elements of fraud or an unjust enrichment claim for some reason we can't see in the video. Maybe it was just bad facts that left his client screwed with no real recourse under Florida law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187704) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: Grizzly abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187713) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:54 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Latham is right.
And there is always recourse--you just couldn't come up with the appropriate legal theory because you don't talk to any other practitioners or seek their help because you know everything already.
But I'm less concerned about that than I am with the terrible oral argument performance. As to that, there's no excuse. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:04 PM Author: Grizzly abode It wasn't any worse than your stuttering mess in front of a federal appeals court in car honk case. So many "uhhhh" "ummmms" that it was hard to tell what you were even trying to say. The court was also not very impressed judging by the outcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187745) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:05 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire It was worse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187750) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:13 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit lol no.
spaceporn came off as nervous, but he was essentially tasked arguing "Ceci n'est pas une pipe." but at least he was able to focus on the merits.
candy ride couldn't even get to the fucking merits because his work product is DOGSHIT. at least spaceporn didn't have to contend with benchslaps about why is filings are written in crayon and use precedent involving pro se plaintiffs to heg the court to allow him to refile a 4th time. he at least understood what the jusges were saying and didn't get yelled at for being a retard. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:35 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Well, you got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188740) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:33 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple Yeah there wasn't any recourse against the federal government in SP's horrible honking case. Sometimes that's just how it works. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187826) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:37 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire So get a WIN next year and show us we are wrong Z. But your attitude right now is sps. And you, not your partner, not an atty who left the firm before argument, but you YOU put yourself there and had no consideration beforehand about how to get out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188742) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: Self-absorbed Copper Hunting Ground Gas Station Oh c’mon. There’s like two elements to unjust enrichment. He fucked me over and I got damaged. It’s the stupid catch-all appendage on every complaint. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187728) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:01 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187733) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:01 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit you really just cant fucking help yourself can you lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187734) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:04 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit did you see the part where i tried to say he pled in the alternative and the judge told him that even after amending his complaint 3x he had not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187744) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:07 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire Always a credibility booster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187756) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 11:05 PM Author: Indigo national security agency Yes, and don't "incorporate every paragraph as if fully stated herein" for the alternative count. You should exclude the contradictory paragraphs. The judge slapped ZZZ for doing that here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49189314) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: insane sweet tailpipe Is law a real thing or is it just mentally retarded jews being gay and obsequious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187761) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: lascivious seedy native selfie Candy Ride is not ZZZ. Candy Ride is another poster larping as a generic family man lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187766) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 1:26 PM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew oh hello veteran poaster Nazca Redlines (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49187803) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo new poaster first day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188024) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:37 PM Author: puce community account pistol Why did gunner and zzz get into it? Who started it. seems pretty gay to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188100) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:52 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit he's been following me around for years sniping at me. he mocked me for being a wagecuck yesterday so i decided to see how his solo practice was going and found this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188144) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:53 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo nigga, heil hitler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188147) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew Candy Ride is a total creep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188190) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:14 PM Author: flesh antidepressant drug volcanic crater Judge: "that's actually a retarded and irrelevant hypo. Perhaps if the purchasers had the option of trading an inch of height for each thousand of holsters--" ZZZ: "don't fight the hypo" |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188082) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 2:53 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188148) |
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Date: August 21st, 2025 8:44 PM Author: slippery cuckold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49202184) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:08 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Can someone explain why they didn't just allege fraud? So their client was hacked and made a sale for $0 and their whole argument is that a sale didn't occur? The judges seem to think this is about fraud and not about conversion. Can someone explain to a lawnoob like me? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188200) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo zzz/candy ride is a moron but is evidently good at standardized tests such as the LSAT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188207) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Seems like the lower court would have figured out this was fraud by now. How could they not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188224) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:18 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit there are relaxed pleading standards for a "form complaint." this is intended for pro se plaintiffs to not get their pleadings dismissed because they didn't follow civil procedure rules perfectly. however, that means the complaint can't have a ton of claims and stuff. candy ride filed a form complain for conversion.
later, he amended his complaint adding all sorts of allegations. some of these allegations defeated the conversion claim or were contradictory with each other. this would be fine if he laid out each cause of action, but for some reason he didn't. i suspect either because he wanted to continue to avail himself of the form complaint benefits or because he's just terrible.
this is literally vexatious litigation that he employed against epah and discover. to play devil's advocate in favor of candy ride and make in argument he's being strategic: it's that he wants to amend the complaint over and over so that the defense has to keep filing motions to dismiss and eventually just settles. that's why there's an abuse exception to being able to amend your pleadings endlessly. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:23 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood Ok that kinda makes sense now. In my laymen mind I'm thinking the judge just laid out a pretty good case for fraud why doesn't he allege fraud and call it a day.
Boy, the webs you people weave. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 4:00 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit there are many levels of terribleness to this that any lawyer would recognize. you're focusing on the underlying claims, which is natural because that what that's what a layman would think the case is about. but it's really not. it's about whether candy ride should get a fourth bite at the apple in amending his complaint.
this should be simple. especially when when the defense *fucking concedes* that there are enough facts to alleged to sustain a conversion claim. she's basically saying "yeah the complaint shouldn't be dismissed except that they're abusing the process." all candy ride had to do was prove to the judges that *this* time he'll actually file the complaint properly. but he did the exact opposite, not only by completely missing the point of the judges questions, but by being obstinate and demonstrating no indication he'd learned from his mistakes.
that's also why it's so ridiculous he keeps repeating "they took our stuff. they should give it back." that doesn't fucking matter. he's wasting his time. and it's insulting to the judges. they know how fucking conversion works. they don't need it explained once, let alone 20x. watch epah's oral and how he just skips right past everything and gets to the heart of the matter. even the defense chick in this case doesn't sit around arguing whether the allegations are true. the judge even tells candy ride "they are alleged therefore those are the facts."
at this stage the court *HAS* to take the allegations as true. there's no strategic reason for candy ride to argue this over and over. he's acting like a pro se plaintiff. he doesn't even know why he's there. they have these forms so *ANYONE* off the street can file a complaint and not have it dismissed. you don't have to *PROVE* anything. i could go to your state and file a complaint saying "HATP STOLE MY DOG" and you couldn't have it dismissed, the case would proceed and *THEN* i'd have to present evidence. candy ride never got there.
consider that both cslg and epah, to polar opposites on the political and xo spectrum, have talked about how candy ride is dogshit. consider that the entire bort sided with epah when 90% of people here will kneejerk side against him if there is *any* reasonable way to do so. this isn't "grrr gunneratttt mad at candy ride." he is legitimately FUCKING TERRIBLE. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire I’m looking at the form and it permits attachment. The professional way to do it if he had to use the form complaint would be to complete the form complaint, state See Exhibit A, then write a proper complaint alleging all counts just as a lawyer should. The fact that a form complaint was involved here does not help Z. He still should have properly pled all counts in the beginning instead of leaving off a bunch of counts while the SOL is presumably still running against those counts and risking a denial of second or third leave to amend. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit yeah idk the form complaint standards in florida i was just making the best argument in favor of candy ride. the truth is simpler: he's dumber than dogshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188284) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Charismatic Disrespectful Jew lol at all the Candy Ride defense force posters itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188212) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood MPC Crew 2025 Stronger Together (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188222) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:30 PM Author: alcoholic contagious bawdyhouse pisswyrm Sorry bros ZZZ is not candy ride (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188729) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Awkward soul-stirring crackhouse mood For the record I didn't think so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188773) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: Big Carnelian Roommate Multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188775) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:37 PM Author: Fluffy becky goal in life The issues look good for the plaintiff. Honestly, it almost feels like they're just trying to shit test plaintiff's counsel to try and be educational, like Moot Court.
Don't like the judges claiming he's trying to prove something. Seems pedantic. I would probably have said "I'm not making an assertion here - I am pointing out the fact that the court chose not to provide any reasoning on the record, from which I ask the court to infer that no such reasoning was provided off the record".
Kind of moronic for him to blab about nitpicking, etc., complaining about the defendant's substantive conduct, and then provoking the judge into a long detour about whether he's nitpicking. Just say "certainly, your honor, and I understand how that inference might be drawn. Nonetheless, those four instances are sufficient to support a RICO claim, and, since the exhibit controls, our claim would satisfy the predicate act prong." Not that it matters that much, because the whole problem was lumping the defendants together.
His manner aside, he seems right and the actual dismissal seems to be the definition of 'splitting hairs', since fraudulent acts are properly alleged against each person in the general allegations. Especially given the RICO claims, I don't see why not file in federal court where he wouldn't have to deal with TTT state judges giving unreasoned orders. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:46 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit what is the difference between "asserting that the lower court didn't provide reasoning" and "pointing out the fact that the lower court didn't provide reasoning?"
the issue is that candy ride didn't put the transcripts in the record. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:48 PM Author: Fluffy becky goal in life Oh, there were transcripts? Why the fuck wouldn't he place them in the record, then?
They're probably going to reverse anyway, so whatever. |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:53 PM Author: peach keepsake machete temple In my jurisdiction you have to pay to have the transcript typed up. If I was ZZZ, I would have filed a motion to reconsider and offered a complaint that stated a claim as an exhibit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188991) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:57 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit can you just buy an alt off flw or bp so we dont have to continue with this farce that you're not zzz? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49189003) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:58 PM Author: sexy sex offender water buffalo Too bad he didn’t have you to give him advice! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49189006) |
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Date: August 17th, 2025 8:56 PM Author: Fluffy becky goal in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49193077) |
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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: obsidian people who are hurt orchestra pit well candy ride aka zzz just answered for me: hes poor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762593&forum_id=2most#49188995) |