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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
180
fishy plaza legend
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
much more than that
chest-beating cerise theatre milk
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Coiffed navy juggernaut
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
metal set generalized bond
  11/09/25
...
rebellious lemon halford
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
fishy plaza legend
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Orange Fighting Factory Reset Button
  11/09/25
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Misunderstood liquid oxygen yarmulke
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Cerebral fiercely-loyal mad cow disease
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fishy plaza legend
  11/09/25
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diverse bisexual son of senegal tanning salon
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cr he blows
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concupiscible marketing idea
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concupiscible marketing idea
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
infuriating idiotic national
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Talented Cocky Stage
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
crawly ticket booth hominid
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
crawly ticket booth hominid
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
mildly autistic philosopher-king range
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
submissive high-end fanboi
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Frum pea-brained school feces
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
charcoal gaming laptop
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Talented Cocky Stage
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
mildly autistic philosopher-king range
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Stubborn stock car chad
  11/09/25
*destroying
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
chest-beating cerise theatre milk
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Stubborn stock car chad
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
chest-beating cerise theatre milk
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
razzle-dazzle snowy piazza
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
multi-colored indian lodge
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
Jews maf
mildly autistic philosopher-king range
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
crawly ticket booth hominid
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
crawly ticket booth hominid
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Stubborn stock car chad
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Frum pea-brained school feces
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
multi-colored indian lodge
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
contagious ultramarine school cafeteria
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
contagious ultramarine school cafeteria
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Frum pea-brained school feces
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Transparent comical forum
  11/09/25
lol
contagious ultramarine school cafeteria
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
gaped pearly stag film
  11/09/25
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mildly autistic philosopher-king range
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Anal resort
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was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Talented Cocky Stage
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Stubborn stock car chad
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
charcoal gaming laptop
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
multi-colored indian lodge
  11/09/25
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rebellious lemon halford
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Transparent comical forum
  11/10/25
...
mildly autistic philosopher-king range
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Aquamarine demanding personal credit line
  11/10/25
lol
bull headed knife
  11/10/25
Lmao
razzle-dazzle snowy piazza
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: fishy plaza legend

180

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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: chest-beating cerise theatre milk

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Coiffed navy juggernaut

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: metal set generalized bond

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: rebellious lemon halford



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: fishy plaza legend

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Orange Fighting Factory Reset Button

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Misunderstood liquid oxygen yarmulke



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Cerebral fiercely-loyal mad cow disease

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: fishy plaza legend



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: diverse bisexual son of senegal tanning salon



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Stubborn stock car chad

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: concupiscible marketing idea



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: concupiscible marketing idea



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: infuriating idiotic national

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Talented Cocky Stage

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: crawly ticket booth hominid

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: crawly ticket booth hominid

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: mildly autistic philosopher-king range

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: submissive high-end fanboi

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Frum pea-brained school feces

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: charcoal gaming laptop

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Talented Cocky Stage

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: mildly autistic philosopher-king range

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Stubborn stock car chad

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: chest-beating cerise theatre milk

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Stubborn stock car chad

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: chest-beating cerise theatre milk

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle snowy piazza

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: multi-colored indian lodge

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: mildly autistic philosopher-king range

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: crawly ticket booth hominid

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: crawly ticket booth hominid

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Stubborn stock car chad

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Frum pea-brained school feces

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: multi-colored indian lodge

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: contagious ultramarine school cafeteria

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: contagious ultramarine school cafeteria

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Frum pea-brained school feces

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Transparent comical forum

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: contagious ultramarine school cafeteria

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: gaped pearly stag film

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: mildly autistic philosopher-king range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Anal resort

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Talented Cocky Stage

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Stubborn stock car chad

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: charcoal gaming laptop

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: multi-colored indian lodge

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: rebellious lemon halford



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Transparent comical forum

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: mildly autistic philosopher-king range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Aquamarine demanding personal credit line

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: bull headed knife

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle snowy piazza

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416774)