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Lawyer cites hallucinated case in brief. Gets absolutely destroyed

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968 ...
beady-eyed cerise jew
  08/14/25
the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/14/25
Would.
Walnut marvelous coldplay fan voyeur
  08/14/25
Binary 0
big balding twinkling uncleanness
  08/15/25
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Unholy macaca theater stage
  08/14/25
what's causing AI to do this? honestly, these reactions f...
crusty vivacious son of senegal
  08/14/25
these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of the...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/14/25
AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.
ebony public bath affirmative action
  08/14/25
fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference f...
Flesh Corn Cake Telephone
  08/15/25
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infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
No just practitioners like you were before you fled.
.:.::;.:.;.::.;.:;
  08/18/25
is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your min...
lake tripping nursing home
  08/15/25
low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-B...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
overboard? lawcucks have ONE JOB
Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen
  08/14/25
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mahogany bull headed pisswyrm
  08/14/25
AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey...
Wild library
  08/15/25
Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The ...
Passionate gaming laptop chapel
  08/15/25
I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro ...
180 slate office fortuitous meteor
  08/15/25
Well, the judge is AI too
Sadistic Bateful Gas Station Karate
  08/15/25
LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million...
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25
pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like...
violet exciting masturbator laser beams
  08/14/25
who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"
charcoal sex offender
  08/14/25
is there a better word than "making shit up"?
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/14/25
ai slop
Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen
  08/14/25
ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/14/25
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation
ebony public bath affirmative action
  08/14/25
normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than halluc...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
Ai slop can be real
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25
technofantastigorical.
azure awkward lodge foreskin
  08/14/25
confabulating
ebony public bath affirmative action
  08/14/25
yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" ...
charcoal sex offender
  08/14/25
(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallu...
azure awkward lodge foreskin
  08/14/25
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infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you soun...
ebony public bath affirmative action
  08/14/25
any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but...
azure awkward lodge foreskin
  08/14/25
should be jail time for this shit
Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen
  08/14/25
...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legit...
Sooty whorehouse
  08/14/25
Judges getting in on the act: https://www.abajournal.com/...
Olive Site Half-breed
  08/14/25
not a good look for two federal judges.
Wild library
  08/15/25
insightful journalism: >Scheindlin tells the ABA Journ...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case befor...
Olive Site Half-breed
  08/15/25
GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES: https://www.abajournal.com/i...
infuriating field sneaky criminal
  08/15/25
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wonderful incel associate
  08/14/25
BAM!, literally, in this case.
Wild library
  08/15/25
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beady-eyed cerise jew
  08/15/25
I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishmen...
topaz church
  08/15/25
Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use...
razzmatazz parlor skinny woman
  08/15/25
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scholarship
  08/18/25
They punished her like that for something that will be stand...
.,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,.,..,::,..,,:.,.,.:,..:.,:.:,
  08/18/25
She should have used ShepAIrdize This
I Listen to Porn Podcasts
  08/18/25


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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: beady-eyed cerise jew

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968

Another lawyer cited a bunch of fake, AI-hallucinated cases in a brief. Said she didn't knowingly do that.

Court orders sanctions:

-Counsel must write a letter to the 3 judges to whom she attributed fake cases

-Counsel is kicked off the case; pro hac revoked

-Brief stricken

-Counsel must give client a copy of the order

-Counsel must send the order to every judge presiding over any of her cases

-Court will send a copy of the order to all state bars where counsel is admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186591)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch/w_480,h_480,c_fill,g_faces,g_auto,f_auto/https://cdn.furthered.com/images/public_profile/5e7b325a7e23c.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186673)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: Walnut marvelous coldplay fan voyeur

Would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186679)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: big balding twinkling uncleanness

Binary 0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187427)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: Unholy macaca theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186610)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: crusty vivacious son of senegal

what's causing AI to do this?

honestly, these reactions from judges seem overboard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186637)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of these shitlawyers to save the profession from AI, to put the fear in god in these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186643)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: ebony public bath affirmative action

AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186703)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187119)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: Flesh Corn Cake Telephone

10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference for half the board to parachute out before the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187136)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187137)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:11 AM
Author: .:.::;.:.;.::.;.:;

No just practitioners like you were before you fled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49193630)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: lake tripping nursing home

is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your mind

amazing how jews first determine what is "correct" by how they feel then they backwards rationalize into their "opinion"

emotional faggoty women, the lot of you jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187432)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-Bs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49188813)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen

overboard?

lawcucks have ONE JOB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186689)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: mahogany bull headed pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186696)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Wild library

AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey. it will do nearly anything to please the prompter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187126)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Passionate gaming laptop chapel

Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The lawfags who do this never do anything right, they simply copy/paste whatever they find without checking it. We just couldn't prove that's what they were doing until now. If anything the judges are being too lenient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187131)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:38 AM
Author: 180 slate office fortuitous meteor

I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro have vice revoked and has to own up to being a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187157)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: Sadistic Bateful Gas Station Karate

Well, the judge is AI too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49188828)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million spins to determine the most likely next token (part of a word, e.g. ‘to’ and ‘ken’). It is the proverbial monkey typing Shakespeare on a long enough timeline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49194335)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: violet exciting masturbator laser beams

pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like this while that one nigger judge can literally make a legal ruling(!) based on completely made up AI shit and nothing at all happens to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186648)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: charcoal sex offender

who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186650)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:03 PM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

is there a better word than "making shit up"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186665)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen

ai slop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186691)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has that ai slop look. it doesnt properly capture the "making shit up" aspect that hallucinations does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186695)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: ebony public bath affirmative action

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186736)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than hallucination?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187117)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

Ai slop can be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49194337)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: azure awkward lodge foreskin

technofantastigorical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186701)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: ebony public bath affirmative action

confabulating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186709)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: charcoal sex offender

yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" or "fake facts"

Lawyers always need to make up some new retarded term to make themselves feel smart when they blurt it out. Lawyers are scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186710)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: azure awkward lodge foreskin

(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallucinations” wrt ai)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186717)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187118)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: ebony public bath affirmative action

they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you sound like a faggot when you say that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186707)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: azure awkward lodge foreskin

any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but didn’t even bother to write while KNOWING that is a likely outcome deserves to be disbarred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186698)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Snowy Appetizing Liquid Oxygen

should be jail time for this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186699)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187120)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Sooty whorehouse

that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legitimate inexcusable fuck up, I get that, but ho lee fuk they might as well make her walk through the street naked cersei-style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186742)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: Olive Site Half-breed

Judges getting in on the act:

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/who-or-what-is-to-blame-for-2-federal-judges-error-filled-withdrawn-opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186759)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:13 AM
Author: Wild library

not a good look for two federal judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187129)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

insightful journalism:

>Scheindlin tells the ABA Journal in an email that, in her experience, most judges use law clerks to conduct research. And most ask their law clerks to prepare first drafts of opinions after discussing each issue, so that the clerk knows how the judge wants to rule.

is anyone reading the aba journal not aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187132)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: Olive Site Half-breed

LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case before a clerk gives them the proposed draft of an opinion. At least in the courts I clerked for- clerks for various judges trade war stories.

edit: this applies to district judges more so than appellate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187399)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: infuriating field sneaky criminal

GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES:

https://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/Neals_Wingate_headshots.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187134)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: wonderful incel associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49186831)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:09 AM
Author: Wild library

BAM!, literally, in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49187125)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: beady-eyed cerise jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49188702)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: topaz church

I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishment.

She's a lawyer, charging her clients money, submitting stuff she didn't write and didn't even bother to read to a judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49188996)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: razzmatazz parlor skinny woman

Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use AI to draft every document and the judge uses AI to draft the decision, except the articles about it will probably also be written by AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49189009)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: scholarship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49194332)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:08 AM
Author: .,.,.;.,..,.,:.,:,.,..,::,..,,:.,.,.:,..:.,:.:,


They punished her like that for something that will be standard practice in the legal profession in 3 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49193629)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: I Listen to Porn Podcasts

She should have used ShepAIrdize This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2most#49194338)