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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
180
orange university
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
much more than that
Tantric property kitty
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Autistic Flesh Range
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
titillating office digit ratio
  11/09/25
...
Topaz messiness organic girlfriend
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
orange university
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
wonderful sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
...
Razzle self-absorbed potus indirect expression
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
racy gas station
  11/09/25
...
orange university
  11/09/25
...
bat shit crazy metal center macaca
  11/09/25
cr he blows
rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel
  11/09/25
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sinister roommate
  11/09/25
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sinister roommate
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
floppy cheese-eating juggernaut
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
hideous abusive jew friendly grandma
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Honey-headed cerebral elastic band
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Honey-headed cerebral elastic band
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Geriatric Exciting Piazza
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
nighttime principal's office
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Talented Dilemma
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Chartreuse Spectacular Associate
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
hideous abusive jew friendly grandma
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Geriatric Exciting Piazza
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel
  11/09/25
*destroying
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Tantric property kitty
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Tantric property kitty
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Vivacious cobalt hunting ground
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Geriatric Exciting Piazza
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Honey-headed cerebral elastic band
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Honey-headed cerebral elastic band
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Talented Dilemma
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
appetizing school
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
appetizing school
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Talented Dilemma
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/09/25
lol
appetizing school
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
light dead toaster
  11/09/25
...
Geriatric Exciting Piazza
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
Multi-colored gaped persian
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
hideous abusive jew friendly grandma
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Chartreuse Spectacular Associate
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine
  11/09/25
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Topaz messiness organic girlfriend
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef
  11/10/25
...
Geriatric Exciting Piazza
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Poppy fluffy parlour legal warrant
  11/10/25
lol
cracking wrinkle philosopher-king
  11/10/25
Lmao
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  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: orange university

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Tantric property kitty

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Autistic Flesh Range

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: titillating office digit ratio

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Topaz messiness organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: orange university

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: wonderful sweet tailpipe

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Razzle self-absorbed potus indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: racy gas station

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: orange university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: bat shit crazy metal center macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: sinister roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: sinister roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: floppy cheese-eating juggernaut

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: hideous abusive jew friendly grandma

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Honey-headed cerebral elastic band

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Honey-headed cerebral elastic band

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Geriatric Exciting Piazza

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: nighttime principal's office

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Talented Dilemma

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Chartreuse Spectacular Associate

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: hideous abusive jew friendly grandma

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Geriatric Exciting Piazza

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Tantric property kitty

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Tantric property kitty

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Vivacious cobalt hunting ground

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Geriatric Exciting Piazza

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Honey-headed cerebral elastic band

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Honey-headed cerebral elastic band

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Talented Dilemma

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: appetizing school

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: appetizing school

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Talented Dilemma

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: appetizing school

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: light dead toaster

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Geriatric Exciting Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Multi-colored gaped persian

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: hideous abusive jew friendly grandma

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: rose rough-skinned patrolman chapel

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Chartreuse Spectacular Associate

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Exhilarant Shrine

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Topaz messiness organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Beady-eyed deer antler roast beef

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Geriatric Exciting Piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Poppy fluffy parlour legal warrant

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: cracking wrinkle philosopher-king

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Vivacious cobalt hunting ground

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2most#49416774)