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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: ultramarine business firm Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#23393887) |
Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM Author: Sickened Black Newt just walk outside bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48969812) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM Author: Sickened Black Newt (and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48969813) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM Author: slippery curious tanning salon athletic conference Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence? yes |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM Author: well-lubricated theater stage hunting ground Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48969860) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM Author: slippery curious tanning salon athletic conference (ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48969863) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: well-lubricated theater stage hunting ground They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48969954) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: slippery curious tanning salon athletic conference read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48971066) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM Author: aquamarine bat-shit-crazy water buffalo hospital Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49065184) |
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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM Author: henna appetizing ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49098608) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM Author: contagious judgmental police squad factory reset button what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48970037) |
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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM Author: Razzle Rusted National Security Agency cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48970041) |
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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM Author: jet pervert tank I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48985033) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM Author: aquamarine bat-shit-crazy water buffalo hospital teen black death survivors were the original Boomers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49065206) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 4:10 AM Author: translucent flickering range dragon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49518664) |
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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Comical Hyperactive Voyeur i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#48997602) |
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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM Author: mewling glittery gas station Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49065026) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM Author: orchid histrionic filthpig really depended on the country, the region, and the lord removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: insanely creepy nowag becky It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49421865) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:06 PM Author: dashing organic girlfriend it was a nanny state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49458174) |
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Date: December 8th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: insanely creepy nowag becky Most societies were nomadic. Home sapiens only became a settled species during the most recent 5% of our time on earth. There's absolutely nothing normal (or even good) about anything we do today, unless your goal is simply to put more people on the earth's surface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49495273) |
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Date: December 18th, 2025 1:07 AM Author: orchid histrionic filthpig actual feudalism was probably fine and shitty in parts foursquare feudalism otoh is a lot of fun and harmless if it's not infested with faggots |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Navy Generalized Bond 13th century English peasant: 1620 chill working hours per year with your bros, downtime all winter, zero "thank" emails
you: hiting 1620 billables in July while on your "working vacation" at the beach with your kids
https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/users/rauch/worktime/hours_workweek.html |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:17 PM Author: Navy Generalized Bond "Before capitalism, most people did not work very long hours at all. The tempo of life was slow, even leisurely; the pace of work relaxed. Our ancestors may not have been rich, but they had an abundance of leisure. When capitalism raised their incomes, it also took away their time." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2most#49838410) |