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RESOLVED: if you prefer skinny women to thicc women, your gay
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:41 AM Author: red startled turdskin casino EXAMPLE 1: https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/1997084783344804211 this woman is PRIME BREEDING MATERIAL and if you don't have an overwhelming instinct to ENTHUSIASTICALLY BREED HER, you're probably a homosexual
EXAMPLE 2: https://x.com/DailyCastiza/status/1999466515373195634 i'm pretty sure this is AI, but this is another good example of a healthy fertile woman that your brain should be telling you to impregnate
EXAMPLE 3: https://x.com/adolfmaxxing/status/1997105427092226269 this is TOO SKINNY and GROSS and if you find yourself "sexually attracted" to this "woman" you are almost certainly a homosexual
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:43 AM Author: charismatic hospital knife i guess i'm gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504295) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: honey-headed boistinker business firm first one is literally a normal woman, idk why XO scrotes fetishize heroin chic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504298) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film Prior to circa 1950, 90%+ of all women on Earth were skin and bones. So what's your definition of "normal"? Normal as in normal for a society with an abundance of processed, highly caloric, cheap, and tasty food? Or "normal" vs all of human history? Because even heroin chic of today is overweight by the standards of the overwhelming scope of human history. You're just fat, and that's okay, but you're fat and I still like you for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504345) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: electric bonkers becky skinny is a sign of poverty and nutrition deficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504350) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:05 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film nah it's a sign of wealth and prestige. enough time to cook every day and not have to go to a job, hit the gym and come home and relax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504368) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: electric bonkers becky For 10,000 years, it's been a sign of poverty and sickliness. You can't undo that in your brain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504402) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film This isn't true. Fat being hot was a forcememe by rich, lazy queens of yore. No one thought this but they pretended to agree so as not to get beheaded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504434) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: electric bonkers becky FAT is different from thicc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504536) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:49 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino cr these guys always try to sneakily and jewishly conflate thicc with fat and then accuse you of "liking fat chicks"
it's all so tiresome man |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film Is Sydney Sweeney fat or thicc? Your whole point is men like thin women with big boobs which, ya, wow, you stumbled upon TOAS as the most prestigious body type. How many Alexandra Daddarios are there out there? Not many. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49505415) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: honey-headed boistinker business firm Oh, the skin and bones! https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Pieter_Bruegel_the_Elder_-_Peasant_Wedding_-_Google_Art_Project_2.jpg/960px-Pieter_Bruegel_the_Elder_-_Peasant_Wedding_-_Google_Art_Project_2.jpg |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:48 AM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth in 2025 BMI is more a metric for how responsible and diligent a woman is. white people mitigate their primal instincts with rationality. a dindu going off pure instinct would find #1 the most attractive, but a highly selective male in 2025 would see that this person is going to balloon to 250 after kids, be lazy, and cook a lot of meals with kraft cheese and heavy cream.
all that being said if you're not "attracted" to any of these women (except #2, which is pixar) you're a homosexual. |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: honey-headed boistinker business firm what did you say about kraft cheese and heavy cream? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504322) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:00 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth delicious americana of course but all things in moderation, which is a concept girl #1 is not familiar with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504356) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 5:34 PM Author: Canary school roast beef kraft cheese is soybean oil and not actually human food. It is a "cheese like product," look closely at the package.
nothing wrong w heavy cream |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 5:56 PM Author: Lemon dashing organic girlfriend keepsake machete theres no soybean oil(or even canola) in kraft singles. its not in their regular mac and cheese either.
maybe youre thinking about velveeta or some less common kraft product.
kraft singles are far from an ideal food and obviously processed as hell but very unfairly shit on by people who dont know what theyre talking about
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Date: December 12th, 2025 11:51 AM Author: red startled turdskin casino no no no, see i know what you're trying to do here. this is what "men" who claim to "prefer" skinny "women" always try to do. they attempt to rationalize and abstract their preferences with ridiculous nonsense like "erm, but what i'm thinking is that a decade from now, this woman will be fatter or less attractive, therefore my brain is less/more attracted to her right now in this moment"
no. attraction is an animalistic, primal phenomenon. you either want to have sex with her, right now, or you don't. it's not an intellectual or abstract thing. we do not incorporate Reason into our sexual instincts
you can't fool me, buster |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:03 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth girl #1 is gonna smell like sweat and does not have the physical fitness to fuck good. girl #2 is going to be diligently manicured and have the energy and fitness of a cokehead because she is.
there's a certainly a primal, unthinking component to it as well. and most men with both options on the table are gonna choose #3. sorry buster.
i do agree #3 is too skinny and should eat a sandwich. but #1s thighs are touching all the way down to her knees. |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:11 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino you're still coming up with these goofy abstract rationalizations that have nothing to do with your actual biological attraction/non-attraction to these women. you're totally full of shit!
it's fascinating to me that men so often try to pretend like they rationalize their sexual attraction. it's such a womanly thing. women do this way more, of course, and it's just as bogus when they do it, and we men all recognize that it's bogus when they do it. but then for some reason, a lot of men do it too. i think it's just over-socialization: they want their stated preferences to meet the social consensus
men's revealed preference is for generally thicker women. you don't ever see skinny porn stars. they always have implants or naturally big tits and curvaceous thighs and asses. nobody is jerking off to twiggy chicks. because men who claim they're attracted to skinny women are full of shit |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film Goy Superstar is the most overrated poaster in bort history. And no one overrates him more than himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504383) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:17 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino wow i really touched a nerve with "skinny-chasers" huh!
it's ok, your preferences are Valid. i'm not disputing that (how could i?). your real, actual preferences that is. not the ones that you pretend to have because your brain thinks they're more socially acceptable than your real preferences |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film What's your next hot take, that it's a social construct that men prefer younger women? So you think deep down men prefer fat MILFs but for some kind of societal lie? Lmao spin ratfuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504429) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino no, men prefer young, sexually enthusiastic and open virgins with big tits and ass. and white, obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504439) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:20 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth "there's a certainly a primal, unthinking component to it as well. and most men with both options on the table are gonna choose #3. sorry buster."
you conveniently skip over this part.
for as much as you lisp about my rationalizations i'm simply speculating on why most people would choose #3. but MOST PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE #3!
also, its a fucking preference, some will choose #1 of course. why can't you just accept that people have different primal preferences rather than insisting your POV is the correct one and everyone that says differently must be lying? |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino most men are definitely not choosing #3 to fuck. unironically, more men would choose #1 to fuck than #3. they might choose #3 to wife, though. but this is not at all the same thing. we choose to have sex with the people who we are genuinely sexually attracted to. we choose to couple with people who make the best long term mates (we DO use abstract thought for this)
also this thread is engagement bait flame, obviously. no one else was making any good threads this morning |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:30 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth i know i'm rolling with it.
i think you got it backwards, son. most people would fuck #3 and wife #1. #3 looks like a model whore, vapid, etc whereas #1 looks like she's already a mom.
this might have to do more with things outside their body type though. if #1 was gothed out and #3 was in a sundress maybe this would be reversed. |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:35 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino i'm talking about physical attraction ***only***. when you say most people would fuck #3 and wife #1, what you're really saying is: "a hypothetical woman who looks like #1 is statistically more likely to have better wifely qualities than a hypothetical woman who looks like #3"
which i agree is true. but it's not really what we're talking about here, which is purely physical attraction |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:41 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth i think physical attraction includes things beyond a persons body, which you dont really even know clothed especially with spamx and shit. if #1 had neon hair, piercings, and an antifa face tattoo i doubt you'd be as attracted to her. part of the reason is because she's dressed and her mannerisms are that of an aryan farmgirl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504524) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:54 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth https://imgur.com/s5eEZqV
now choose |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:57 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino lol #1 actually looks relatively hotter compared to #3 after the transformations imo
it really is a purely physical thing for me. and in all honestly i suspect it is for every man, and you guys who claim otherwise are mostly full of shit. but i can't truly know your minds so who knows |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth why tf would people be full of shit on anonymous message borts? especially someone like me who has no problem asserting unpopular things on zozo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504583) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:03 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino i don't think that people who fall into this category are consciously lying. they're just not fully, consciously self-aware of what their brains are doing, and their actual real preferences
kind of like how women aren't consciously lying when they say they "prefer nice guys." it's a self-awareness gap |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:06 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth the best indicator for raw sexual preference would probably be porn stars. i think gabby carter is gross but i don't think people are "lying" when they jerk off to her in private. you shouldn't do the same with people who jerk off to riley reid.
different strokes for different folks, man. |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino totally agree on porn stars reflecting men's revealed preference. just looked up "gabby carter" and yeah that is the body type that most men prefer by default
although, not flame, i think her tits may actually be slightly too oafishly large compared to her frame |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film The allure of Gabbie Carter is that she's curvy but not fat. There are no true BBW pornstars that have achieved the highest level of fame. Once you have a beer gut you're relegated to niche. It's fair to say some dudes prefer Riley over Gabbie and vice versa, but no one prefers fat chicks when you can find skinnier chicks. I think what Goy Superstar is arguing is that all men want big ass and titties and most curvy women are also fat therefore most men want fat chicks. It just not true. And not all skinny chicks are the same, some are way hotter than others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504918) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:24 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth i don't think that's what he's arguing at all. he's arguing that men are primally attracted to women that look like they can carry multiple children to term. women with thin frames, regardless of their bust size, would not be as attractive in that case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504934) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Drab well-lubricated crotch stag film I saw a Korean woman once with 3 kids in tow who looked like she had not eaten so much as a carrot in her entire life. She made a #2 pencil look like it had been binging. Total flame that fat chicks are better at child bearing. Makes no sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504953) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:56 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth whether goy superstar is correct doesnt matter. just pointing out your RC slipped because you're inserting your own biases rather than comprehending what he's saying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49505060) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino cr but i think it can be even more precisely stated as "men (and women, for that matter) are attracted to secondary sexual characteristics." and i think The Science backs me up on this tbqh
so in addition to thiccer/more pronounced tits and asses and thighs, this would include fuller lips, round eyes, neoteny, petite rather than tall, soft skin and hair, etc. all the good stuff we love about women's physical bodies. and the non-physical stuff too like higher pitched voice but that's a separate conversation |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino this is like when a lib dork gets mad at you for calling black people low IQ as a group and "counters" with ERRRMMM BUT ALL BLACK PEOPLE AREN'T DUMB, ACKSHUALLY SOME BLACK PEOPLE ARE SMART, YOU FUCKING RACIST!!!!1
cmon bro |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 4:19 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth of course it does, no reasonable person would dispute that.
the point of contention, i think, is how much of physical attraction can be based on that at an individual level. you're asserting that it's the near exclusive metric to the point that anyone who deviates from it is "lying", whereas inthink its a major factor but that for various reasons a person can legitmately have different preferences. |
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just come out GaySuperstar
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:32 PM Author: slap-happy marvelous school cafeteria antidepressant drug Brother... don't get me wrong, if 1 and 2 were both laying in my bed nude with their legs behind their heads i would plow away and cum inside with reckless abandon. But LJL at marrying or settling down with a landbeast like that. They look halfway decent because they're mid 20s.
If they were mid 30s or worse still, over 40, they would like absolutely horrific esp if they're eating and health (or lack thereof) habits continue. They are at their prime metabolisms and that shit certainly doesn't improve for women over time.
#3 I would settle down with all day and pop out 4 kids no problem. |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 1:52 PM Author: red startled turdskin casino this is the exact kind of gap in self-awareness that i discussed with gunner higher up in the thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809473&forum_id=2most#49504736) |
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Date: December 12th, 2025 2:19 PM Author: Gold Balding Ticket Booth "you're not self aware!"
"physical attraction is primal, not about rationalizations!"
-- goysuperstar, apparently suffering no cognitive dissonance from these contradictory positions |
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