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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
mind-boggling mental disorder
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
mind-boggling mental disorder
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
mind-boggling mental disorder
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
mind-boggling mental disorder
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
comical indian lodge
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
mind-boggling mental disorder
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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
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comical indian lodge
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
shimmering place of business dopamine
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
comical indian lodge
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shimmering place of business dopamine
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
up-to-no-good excitant sanctuary
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Outnumbered base candlestick maker
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
comical indian lodge
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Laughsome tripping international law enforcement agency
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comical indian lodge
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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
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i love scholarship
Floppy gas station becky
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
cobalt psychic cuck
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comical indian lodge
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Floppy gas station becky
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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
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boyish embarrassed to the bone stead
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
mind-boggling mental disorder
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Mauve vivacious brunch therapy
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: comical indian lodge

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: comical indian lodge



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: shimmering place of business dopamine

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: shimmering place of business dopamine



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: up-to-no-good excitant sanctuary

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Outnumbered base candlestick maker

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: comical indian lodge

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Laughsome tripping international law enforcement agency

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: comical indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Floppy gas station becky

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: cobalt psychic cuck

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: comical indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Floppy gas station becky



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: boyish embarrassed to the bone stead



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: mind-boggling mental disorder

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Mauve vivacious brunch therapy

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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