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Hot take: 007 franchise was overrated proto-capeshit foisted on boomers

I say this as a lifelong fan. Now that I'm older, I realize ...
Greedy Peach Wrinkle Home
  04/08/22
I think this is pretty well known at this point.
flickering hall
  04/08/22
They were just supposed to be fun movies, not as self-seriou...
Yapping Splenetic Place Of Business Theater Stage
  04/08/22
They varied, as does capeshit, but I hear you
Greedy Peach Wrinkle Home
  04/08/22
I learned a lot about gender relations from the rooftop pool...
Hyperactive church building
  04/08/22
At least they had some restraint. No Moneypenny movie or...
Odious point
  04/08/22
This will probably happen
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  04/08/22
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flickering hall
  04/08/22
You can reduce any hero quest movie to capeshit, really. ...
Burgundy Vivacious Rehab Boistinker
  04/08/22
IIRC Roger Moore skied while shooting a machine gun
Insane police squad foreskin
  08/15/25
much more creative than capeshit. better villains and settin...
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cerebral business firm
  04/08/22
it's transparent middle aged boomer fantasy. but i miss the ...
kink-friendly navy pisswyrm
  04/08/22
What about Mission Impossible
Histrionic Rebellious Sound Barrier
  04/08/22
its wish fulfillment. similar in ways to Entourage - imagine...
Razzle Maize Public Bath
  04/08/22
It was actually better when they cranked them out like clock...
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  08/15/25
I don't think anyone even holds it in all that high of regar...
lascivious costumed university patrolman
  08/15/25
By the 70s and 80s the mediocrity of the franchise was the p...
fighting bull headed famous landscape painting pit
  08/15/25
why do they say it was all about the cold war when he doesn'...
lascivious costumed university patrolman
  08/15/25
1) you are pretty stupid overall and a terrible curator, see...
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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:55 AM
Author: Greedy Peach Wrinkle Home

I say this as a lifelong fan. Now that I'm older, I realize that maybe 4 or 5 of them are somewhat great, and the majority are very mediocre movies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44301713)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:55 AM
Author: flickering hall

I think this is pretty well known at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44301714)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 9:59 AM
Author: Yapping Splenetic Place Of Business Theater Stage

They were just supposed to be fun movies, not as self-serious as capeshit movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44301736)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:00 AM
Author: Greedy Peach Wrinkle Home

They varied, as does capeshit, but I hear you

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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:00 AM
Author: Hyperactive church building

I learned a lot about gender relations from the rooftop pool scene in goldfinger

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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:41 AM
Author: Odious point

At least they had some restraint.

No Moneypenny movie or Q origin story in some Bond cinematic univer$e

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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:46 AM
Author: Yapping Splenetic Place Of Business Theater Stage

This will probably happen

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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:58 AM
Author: amethyst bbw



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:28 PM
Author: Free-loading Internal Respiration



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:13 PM
Author: Sable sick associate boltzmann

fuck

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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: flickering hall



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:50 AM
Author: Burgundy Vivacious Rehab Boistinker

You can reduce any hero quest movie to capeshit, really.

But the big difference is that 007 did everything he did without super powers. He was an ordinary athletic guy who kicked ass and fucked beautiful women. It was achievable for guys, there was nothing different about him except his job.

Far cry from idolizing a hero who has super powers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44302015)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Insane police squad foreskin

IIRC Roger Moore skied while shooting a machine gun

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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: amethyst bbw

much more creative than capeshit. better villains and settings. more sex appeal, but still projected class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44302047)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:57 AM
Author: cerebral business firm



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Date: April 8th, 2022 10:58 AM
Author: kink-friendly navy pisswyrm

it's transparent middle aged boomer fantasy. but i miss the days when the leading man could fuck and suck with impunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44302059)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:12 AM
Author: Histrionic Rebellious Sound Barrier

What about Mission Impossible

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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:53 AM
Author: Razzle Maize Public Bath

its wish fulfillment. similar in ways to Entourage - imagine if you were a rich A lister. Imagine if you were a cool spy with unlimited access to money, cars, women. Nothing wrong with that at all. Problem is they tried to turn it into an event that occurs every 4-5 years. Its just not that deep, nor should it be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44302335)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:55 AM
Author: Greedy Peach Wrinkle Home

It was actually better when they cranked them out like clockwork ever two years in the 70s and 80s. Slowing the pace down causes undeserved hype to build

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#44302353)



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Date: April 8th, 2022 11:58 AM
Author: Razzle Maize Public Bath



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:00 PM
Author: amethyst bbw



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:01 PM
Author: kink-friendly navy pisswyrm



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Date: April 8th, 2022 12:27 PM
Author: Yapping Splenetic Place Of Business Theater Stage



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:14 PM
Author: flickering hall



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Date: April 8th, 2022 1:20 PM
Author: adventurous stead party of the first part



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: charcoal out-of-control meetinghouse



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:07 PM
Author: lascivious costumed university patrolman

I don't think anyone even holds it in all that high of regard. Millennials like Brosnan because of Goldeneye. I think since the game was so awesome that seeing the gunbarrel sequence brings all of us involuntary joy and allows us to forgive a Film being boring and shit. Anyway Film-wise it's almost like Star Wars in that the "original trilogy" holds up the best of any of them. I've never met any boomers who are huge fans and love Sean Connery or something. Remember, these Films weren't on video, they just existed for a month and then disappeared.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#49188923)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:08 PM
Author: fighting bull headed famous landscape painting pit

By the 70s and 80s the mediocrity of the franchise was the primary framework in real time for all pop culture discussion of 007. The whole point was the Cold War.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#49188925)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: lascivious costumed university patrolman

why do they say it was all about the cold war when he doesn't really go up against actual Russians that often? seems like a liberal artist take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#49188931)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:30 PM
Author: fighting bull headed famous landscape painting pit

1) you are pretty stupid overall and a terrible curator, see eg: https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/Cold_War#:~:text=Novels,to%20all%20out%20nuclear%20war.

2) the movies back off the direct Russian villian stuff after the early ones because they realize any foreign accent plus a spy with a dry cool wit and Superman capabilities and competence was all that was needed to provide the most comfortable escapism in times when people earnestly contemplated and schools ran drills to prepare for the possibility of a nuclear war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#49188972)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:41 PM
Author: lascivious costumed university patrolman

that's just a thing that boomers say happened that probably stopped by like 1969. Also most of the Films are adaptations of Books. They just don't have a lot of Russian villains outside of SMERSH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5078908&forum_id=2most#49188983)