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Harbaugh has been sign stealing at Michigan for years, NCAA ban hammer coming:
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Date: October 19th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-ncaa-investigating-michigan-football-for-alleged-rule-violations-related-to-sign-stealing-161714176.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46956116) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 2:43 PM Author: Adventurous state idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46968204) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Adventurous state idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46997531) |
Date: October 19th, 2023 3:45 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Lmao Harbaugh already interviewing with the Chargers, he's gonna Pete Carroll it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46957411) |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 3:48 PM Author: Bisexual Partner How coincidental that this gets dropped right before Michigan is set to face off with its biggest rival in its toughest challenge yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46957424) |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 4:35 PM Author: puce arousing pervert 🤣 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46957709) |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 4:38 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler Wait it's illegal to send a scout to your opponent's games? Wtf that's asinine
I'm on team Harbaugh |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:02 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry It's really retarded. I doubt this is true. You can scout signs from the all 22 tape. There would be no reason to send someone to the games in violation of the rules when you have open access to the tape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960334) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:14 AM Author: Chestnut Floppy Point It’s just for financial reasons lol. Gotta keep the playing field even!
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/why-are-coaches-banned-from-live-scouting-did-it-help-baylor-football/amp/ |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 9:01 PM Author: Fantasy-prone resort What's a neutral knowledgeable take on this?
Even if true, this seems way less problematic than than the Astros.
Like its legal to find the signals on video (which is provided to everyone), but you can't send one person to be one of the 60,000 people in the crowd? |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 9:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Honestly, the Astros should have been stripped of their title. So, saying this is less worse isn't much of a take. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46958929) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:17 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960388) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:08 AM Author: histrionic rehab a batter knowing the pitch in advance is going to have a way, way higher success rate, which even over a 4-7 game series will have a huge effect.
in football, even if you know the play call, these days receivers running routes have 2-3 options they can take based on coverage + there is still the 'execution' aspect. also, when it's 3rd and long, you're not telling anyone something they don't already know when you say it's a passing down. |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 6:31 PM Author: Mischievous indigo lay If they severely punished the Astros they would have lit up half the league with accusations and it would have spiraled out of control. They wanted to punish a secondary market team while sparing the Yankees and Red Sox. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46969056) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 9:40 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler Houston is 4th largest biggest city in the country shitlib
far larger than "boston" |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 9:03 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version The rules say you cannot scout future opponents IRL and it seems like they have evidence of Michigan coaches/people associated with the team doing exactly this. Him claiming he was "unaware" and didn't direct it isn't going to pass muster.
Bill Belichick 2.0. |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 9:08 PM Author: Lake sanctuary hissy fit Everybody does this shit. Why does NCAA have such a hardon for Michigan? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46958940) |
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Date: October 19th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base The SEC is so problematic they are gonna come down on Michigan twice as hard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46959042) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:01 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960329) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:01 AM Author: curious jet-lagged parlour foreskin They need to stop cheating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960333) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 9:46 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate They found their fall guy, "a low-level staffer with a military background," lmao.
https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1715232429021987184 |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:04 AM Author: federal brindle tanning salon corn cake He was also implicated in the plot to kidnap Gov. Whitmer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960597) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:48 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler previously spotted dumping lead powder into the Flint water supply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960820) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 8:30 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46967114) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:12 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983255) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 1:46 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL. I'm sure this staffer on his own time and of his own volition booked flights and hotels to travel to opponents games to scout signals and then didn't tell anyone what he saw.
Makes perfect sense. BYE BYE JIMMY! Enjoy San Diego or Carolina! |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 8:46 AM Author: Contagious gaped whorehouse people who are hurt Probably a Gen X gulf war vet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46967120) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:00 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Sign stealing is legal. Apparently UM may have been sending some ex-marine to go watch games in person. Pretty retarded rule against that from the 90s that was put in place for economic parity reasons. Harbaugh must have really pissed someone off at the NCAA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960327) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 10:17 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness This is dumb. Scouting should be part of the game as everyone does it and should (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960390) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:01 AM Author: Bistre candlestick maker Michigan has a shocking and unprecedented 180 (not in the XO sense) turnaround in their program.
Now we know why
Stupid rule, maybe. But it's clear it actually does help and provides an advantage. |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:42 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry The guy who was allegedly doing this was hired sometime in 2022 so, not really. Honestly, I'm not sure what kind of actual advantage a team gets from having someone in person vs. just watching the all 22 tape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960805) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:44 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Most teams put up curtains and shit to block signals on the all 22. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960811) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:49 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler 'unprecedented' for Michigan football to be good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960825) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:51 AM Author: Maize roommate its not shocking or unprecedented (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960833) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:50 PM Author: razzle pisswyrm old irish cottage michigan has had a million nfl draft picks in the last few years. that explains it more than whatever this crap was. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983421) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 9:34 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46994549) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:03 AM Author: very tactful marketing idea stain Fuck Michigan, but this is a dumb rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46960595) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 11:53 AM Author: Swashbuckling Slimy Keepsake Machete seems to be a big difference between *scouting* and *sign stealing*
scouting would mean that the opposing coaches know that when Ohio State is in this formation, in this down and distance, and put that man in motion, they always run play X.
sign stealing, meaning that when a sideline coach shouts Arkansas that means its the cardboard sign held by player 10, and if that cardboard sign has a picture of Lee Corso, its their fake punt play.
Iow, intentionally intercepting communications from opposing coaches to opposing players seems wrong as fuck and should be banned. |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:03 PM Author: Zombie-like Voyeur Office Anything that can be observed from the stands as a fan might should be considered permissible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988594) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 1:36 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Harbaugh statement: "We knew when Rutgers was going to wear Huggies, when they'd change to Luvs, the down and distance of putting on Pampers. It's an edge, no doubt, but it's not illegal. It's not illegal. It's just fresh diapers, that's all, fresh diapers." https://twitter.com/UMichFootball/status/17154074090472739746 |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 1:39 PM Author: federal brindle tanning salon corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46961362) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:12 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983259) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 9:35 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46994552) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 1:43 PM Author: Odious location I bet ESPN is behind all this, they hate the big 10 since its on fox and want their precious SEC fraud to keep going forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46961378) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 3:49 PM Author: titillating heaven pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46961959) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 8:31 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46967115) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 2:51 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Fall man has taken the fall (with pay) https://twitter.com/chengelis/status/1715440254872686961 |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 3:47 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version They always suspend them WITH PAY when they acted totally on their own and without direction/support of the coaching staff. ALWAYS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46961942) |
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Date: October 21st, 2023 1:23 PM Author: khaki institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46964865) |
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Date: October 20th, 2023 4:54 PM Author: Boyish piazza i guess if you've only won 0.5 national championships since Israel became a country, you get desperate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46962230) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 9:51 PM Author: fiercely-loyal home sex offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47035842) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 9:03 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness They just won 49-0 without sign stealing. U mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46967131) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 2:19 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate They invented a time machine and undid all the sign stealing they've done for the last two years and Sparty invented a new set of calls in the last 48 hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46968075) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 2:32 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness The sparty qb was getting calls from the sideline, literally running over to the coach each time. How could they have possibly benefit from stolen signs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46968135) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2023 6:18 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base Sparty sucks and literally promoted Hitler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46969025) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 9:49 PM Author: Aggressive Internet-worthy House Internal Respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988539) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 3:22 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Connor Stalions, the suspended Michigan staffer at the center of the NCAA's sign-stealing probe, purchased tickets in his own name for more than 30 games over the last three years at 11 different Big Ten schools, sources at 11 different league schools told ESPN. It's uncertain who was funding the purchases. Stallions makes $55,000 per year, according to the University of Michigan's Website. But the operation included thousands of dollars in ticket sales and the cost of travel to the stadiums. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38727023/u-m-staffer-bought-tickets-11-schools
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:07 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version I'm quite sure HE DID THIS ALL ON HIS OWN!!!111
AND DIDN'T USE MICHIGAN COMPUTERS TO ANALYZE THE VIDEO OR SEND IT TO ANYONE ELSE AT THE UNIVERSITY |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:15 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate What's going to be crazy is the slow drip. We're going to see that they were scouting Oklahoma and Georgia this year. We're going to start reeling in other names. We're going to have hi def security camera footage of randos in seats with cameras out. It's just going to be a lulzy news story every day for like 3 months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46972939) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:16 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version I think all the important stuff will be known in about 2 weeks.
It'll probably go as high as coordinators, but no one will implicate Harbaugh - even though it's impossible he didn't know. |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:18 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2#46961342 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46972958) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:55 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Where are we on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067640) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:25 PM Author: Diverse halford travel guidebook didnt tom brady attend this kike infested university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46972981) |
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Date: October 23rd, 2023 4:25 PM Author: curious jet-lagged parlour foreskin This explains why they lost to TCU last year. They weren’t able to steal any signs from them since the matchup was announced too late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46972982) |
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Date: October 24th, 2023 9:59 PM Author: Fantasy-prone resort The whole thing seems a little silly. "Oh he bought tickets to this game"...along with literally 100,000 other people.
I understand there is a rule against it, but ESPN is treating this like its some major scandal which is bigger than the fact that the #1 NCAA basketball team killed someone last year. |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Stalions claimed to have a Google document between 550 and 600 pages long that he managed daily, containing a blueprint for the Wolverines’ future. He referred the document as a movement more than a plan, dubbing it “the Michigan Manifesto.”
https://www.si.com/college/2023/10/25/michigan-connor-stalions-texts-stolen-signals |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate lmao this guy is Doobs. In the course of his conversation with the Power 5 student, which extended over about three weeks, Stalions would claim that shortly after graduation, he obtained a decade’s worth of high school national standardized test scores and GPAs for approximately 500 Midshipmen football players—data that he should not have been allowed to possess. He claimed that he simply went to the Naval Academy’s admissions office and “name dropped” coach Ken Niumatalolo. While he said the admissions office told him to delete the data the following day, Stalions was coy over whether he had and made clear that he used the data to inform his recruiting philosophy. |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:11 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983249) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 1:36 PM Author: khaki institution Very interesting article.
Seems like definitely at least Harbaugh's son knew what this guy was doing. And someone sure as shit knew about his travel to other team's games in 22 and 23. |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:44 PM Author: titillating heaven pozpig I don’t think he went. I think he sent friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983572) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:48 PM Author: khaki institution I thought I read they had images of him attending games in the seats he bought as well as other people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983583) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:11 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983248) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:10 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/25/michigan-computers-sign-stealing-evidence/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_sports (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983244) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:52 PM Author: khaki institution Can you post the text for this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983600) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:13 PM Author: amber dog poop I can't believe this is considered a "scandal" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983267) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:28 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate No one cares because you've gone pumo Brian. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983338) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:50 PM Author: khaki institution ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983588) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 2:34 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46993460) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:31 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate That plan included as many as eight games involving Ohio State, which would cost more than $3,000 in expenses, and four or five games involving Georgia. The detailed plan would spend more than $15,000 to send scouts to more than 40 games played by 10 opponents, according to the Post. Stalions’ listed salary is $55,000. https://theathletic.com/4999767/2023/10/25/michigan-sign-stealing-investigation-outside-firm?source=user-shared-article |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:42 PM Author: Lascivious pale coldplay fan lol they're fucked. They have the payments, the people being sent, video of the guy right next to all the coaches, video of their reactions to any signals being used.
Only question is if they get decimated this year or if it waits until after the year. |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 8:50 PM Author: khaki institution The people who went to the games are going to sing like canaries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983591) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:15 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater "I love football!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46985273) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:34 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46985371) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:43 PM Author: Maize roommate lets just wait to hear what paul feinbaum of espn has to say about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983405) |
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Date: October 25th, 2023 7:45 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate "Sports talk nut here, long time first time!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46983410) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:15 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater what exactly is the scandal here? Isn't every single game taped? |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:33 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler The "scandal" is maf buckeyes are terrified of what Harbaugh is building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46985361) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:21 PM Author: Hairless Temple The problem is those signs aren’t typically seen in the broadcast or the All 22 tape. The issue with Michigan is they sent people to record the signals from the stand during games Michigan wasn’t playing at. It’s against NCAA and seen by most coaches as crossing the line. What’s hilarious is how fucking retarded Michigan was about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988664) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 5:24 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate So FBI was involved investigating another scandal at Michigan, which is how they got access to computers. https://x.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/1717652819132436768?s=20 https://x.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1717647695186145788?s=20 |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 6:17 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46987685) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 7:01 PM Author: learning disabled becky sparty fans must be cry-laughing at how no one cares about their program's scandals anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46987841) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 7:04 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate "Don't you see, he was masturbating in front of a rape survivor--" "Wait, hold up, wait, some Naval Academy grad at Michigan had a 600 page Google Doc."
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Date: October 26th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988495) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:00 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988583) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:03 PM Author: provocative mint indian lodge kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988593) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 9:13 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989491) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 7:15 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Turns out TCU knew Michigan was stealing signs, used the stolen signs as dummy signs, then used real signs to run train on Michigan in the playoff lmao.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-tcu-knew-of-michigans-sign-stealing-scheme-prior-to-cfp-game-used-dummy-signals-to-dupe-wolverines-224848698.html |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 7:18 PM Author: Cracking Garrison Jew This story keeps getting better, CFB is now NBA level drama (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46987909) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 7:21 PM Author: khaki institution Hoisted on their own petard!!!111 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46987920) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988493) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:03 PM Author: provocative mint indian lodge kitty cat lmfaooooooo 91739162916391771182 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988596) |
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Date: October 26th, 2023 10:28 PM Author: Useless exhilarant spot “Most recently, the Washington Post reported Wednesday that an outside investigative firm first tipped off the NCAA last week to Michigan’s sign-stealing scheme, presenting officials with documents uncovered from computers maintained and accessed by UM coaches that outlined the system, including travel schedules and expenses for future trips.”
What do we think this ‘outside investigative firm’ is? And how did they have access to provide these tips?
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:21 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version FBI? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46988948) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 6:16 AM Author: Useless exhilarant spot Maybe?
Additionally, what the fuck was going on with this guy?
We have any idea what he was actually doing? |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 6:34 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Yeah increasingly looks like collateral damage from this weirdo's crimes lol. "An employee reported fraudulent activity involving someone accessing university emails accounts without authorization." https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2023/01/18/michigan-football-matt-weiss-computer-unauthorized-access-computer/69818196007/
Now if this guy was trying to skim cash from someone else with 2FA, or trying to get into an account to find someone's nudes, or whatever, we have no idea. So it looks like this firm was brought in to help look at the computers, found this shit, and it blew up from there. |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 6:21 AM Author: Useless exhilarant spot To throw out a wild half ass prediction,
I’d say it’s roughly as likely that a year from now Harbaugh is radioactively unhirable, ala Art Briles, as he is an NFL head coach. |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:34 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990002) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 3:28 AM Author: titillating heaven pozpig Hired by Jim Stapleton, the booster who hates Harbaugh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989177) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 6:33 AM Author: Useless exhilarant spot I guess he’s on the infractions committee?
So he could have leaked the investigation to the press, but how did this get on his desk in the first place? |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 6:34 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate How's Dexter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989298) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 7:10 AM Author: titillating heaven pozpig I want to go back so badly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989322) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 7:31 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Too bad the MILFs at Dexter Cider Mill this weekend are going to be unreal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989343) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:03 PM Author: titillating heaven pozpig Will swing by on my way to Common Grill in Chelsea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992122) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 9:36 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46994554) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 9:34 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46994547) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 9:14 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler this is the credited response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989497) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 9:17 AM Author: Fighting range What's amazing is Michigan basically blew a half trying to "outsmart" TCU, which resulted in misreading defenses and throwing pick sixes, when if they just played it straight they could have outmuscled TCU, but by the second half it was too late to come back, which meant a shitty TCU got sodomized in the national championship. Incredible dominos falling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989510) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 10:01 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry It’s impressive how you got this so precisely backwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46989667) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:40 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness If Michigan can no longer steal signs then what will OSU’s excuse be if Michigan destroys them for the third year in a row? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990022) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (Dave Portnoy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990109) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:29 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness I’m just saying Day should have waited until after the season to run to the NCAA since that would still give him an out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990201) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: puce arousing pervert It's not Day. It's coming from within UM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990240) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:41 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness No it isn’t it’s 100% Day. He’s not even denying it. And that’s fine because they still have to come to the Big House next month and nothing is going to stop that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990252) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: puce arousing pervert Sounds like you have no idea about what is happening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990254) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 1:32 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Sounds like your team is about to get its ass whooped for the third straight year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990440) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 3:19 PM Author: puce arousing pervert https://twitter.com/BuckeyeBat/status/1717970130389340190?t=HFfz11-zOz2Z2p-c7FgDGA&s=19 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990845) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 3:25 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Sorry but that’s not going to save you on November 25th (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46990865) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 10:43 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Connor paid friends $1000s to film for him and now they are squealing. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38758564/ex-d-iii-coach-says-u-m-staffer-hired-record-future-big-10-foes |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:12 PM Author: Useless exhilarant spot These dudes are pathetic,
Also the dude from the SI article spilling about all the text Connor sent him, he asked for advice, got it, then gave it to a reporter? That’s vile behavior. Honestly it disgusts me significantly more than any of the cheating anyone at Michigan is accused of doing here. |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:13 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL. Your team is going down. You're losing your coach. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992141) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:16 PM Author: Useless exhilarant spot They aren’t my team, I’m actually a tOSU fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992148) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:17 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version My statement stands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992153) |
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Date: October 27th, 2023 11:14 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL at the Marine friend who hung up the phone when asked if she went to the UGA/FL game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992143) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 7:07 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate It was biglaw lives matter. "wtf they asked me about that trash Florida-Georgia? I went to a man's game, Jacksonville State-Liberty." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992515) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 7:13 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992519) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 10:45 PM Author: provocative mint indian lodge kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46997355) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 10:46 PM Author: learning disabled becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46997358) |
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Date: October 28th, 2023 11:41 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46992981) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 7:29 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate CONTRACT MASTER MEN: Michigan withdraws its contract extension offer from Harbaugh.
https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/jim-harbaugh-michigan-contract-sign-stealing-21d5e1b6 The Wolverines’ title chase this year put him in line for another raise. Michigan recently had made an offer that would have made Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in the Big Ten, before the school pulled it once the sign-stealing allegations rocked the school, the person said. |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 7:32 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version You got a link to the WSJ story?
BTW, that's akin to firing him because he's going to go to quit and go to the NFL now. |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 7:34 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Yes updated sry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46996933) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 7:38 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Thanks. He's done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46996941) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 10:21 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base Yes, obviously hounding him out of CFB is the utterly transparent purpose of the NCAA and its puppeteers Day and Stapleton. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46997294) |
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Date: October 29th, 2023 11:23 PM Author: puce arousing pervert lol @ delusional michigan fans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46997530) |
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Date: October 30th, 2023 9:21 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater Ohio State fans are unthinking NPCs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#46998523) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 12:02 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47006488) |
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Date: October 31st, 2023 1:07 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler sick & sad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47003766) |
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Date: October 31st, 2023 12:50 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Stalions putnon CHIPPEWA gear, snuck onto Central Michigan sideline to spy on Michigan State. FIRE UP, CHIPS! https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1719394984028250360 |
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Date: October 31st, 2023 1:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version HaHaHa!
There is NO CHANCE Harbaugh survives this.
Was a Friday night game. Michigan played on Sat at home.
Poor Central Michigan coach is probably going to get fucked over this too. |
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Date: October 31st, 2023 11:43 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base Harbaugh extension incoming, “withdrawal” story was FAKE NEWS:
University president tweets pic of himself with Harbaugh and the team:
https://x.com/santajono/status/1719489551377248546?s=61 |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 10:21 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (guy who doesn't understand how PR works) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47007185) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 11:12 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate It's pretty obvious they "withdrew" because the contract masterman had to amend how clause 7.6 interacts with 9.2 to include an escape clause for everyone if Harbaugh is on the hook. And once the lawyers gave the green light, the board can step in to lock him in, win-win--if he's innocent, they keep him from jumping to NFL; if he's guilty, they have an escape clause and can axe it. Pretty good on them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47007346) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 10:43 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lol all this because Ryan Day lost two in a row to Michigan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47007252) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 10:47 AM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth All of this because *ich lost 8 in a row (then ducked the ‘20) game and had to resort to a massive cheating operation to compete. After ‘21/‘22 are vacated it’ll be back to no SCUM wins since 2011 😂. Enjoy getting GAPED for the next decade just like Tress/Urbs years 🔥. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47007264) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 10:59 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness What will your excuse be when the buckeyes lose again in Ann Arbor later this month (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47007293) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 10:17 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater cr. Ohio State = total fraud cry babies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47011002) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 2:07 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47018371) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 2:41 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate NCAA literally targeting Harbaugh lmao, with how it amended Bylaw 11.2.1.1 and how it interacts with Bylaw 9.2 Even if Jim Harbaugh knew nothing about the ongoing sign-stealing scandal at Michigan, the Wolverines coach could be held responsible, according to a newly altered NCAA rule.
A semantic change in the NCAA's coach responsibility bylaw all but assures Harbaugh will be found culpable if evidence is found of wrongdoing in the case involving analyst Connor Stalions.
The language in Bylaw 11.2.1.1 was changed in January. Previously, the rule stated a head coach "is presumed to be held responsible for the actions of all institutional staff members." It was changed to read, "a head coach shall be held responsible for their actions and the actions of all institutional staff members." |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 2:44 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness If Michigan runs the table it doesn’t matter. No one can say shit then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47008132) |
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Date: November 1st, 2023 5:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL wut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47008815) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 10:28 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness You can’t claim they’re benefiting from cheating if they continue to win (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47011066) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 12:53 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (Pats fan) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47011729) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 8:02 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Day spent an hour bitching out to B1G commish.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38798293/big-ten-coaches-urge-conference-take-action-michigan-sign-stealing-emotional-call |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 1:03 PM Author: curious jet-lagged parlour foreskin Weird how Michigan started doing a lot better once this cheating scheme started.
Michigan fans better hope they win it all this year because some really lean years are about to follow. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 1:49 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47012015) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2023 10:34 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Big 10 ADs had meeting with COMMISH. Michigan AD not invited.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38804628/ads-offer-support-tell-commissioner-big-ten-step-up |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 7:53 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate These schools are going to have to put up or shut up. They can't keep cockteasing their "evidence." https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38805972/purdue-coach-ryan-walters-evidence-michigan-scouting |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 12:08 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version I'm still waiting for the CMU explanation. That's the craziest one and someone definitely invited that guy/allowed him to come and gave him a credential. Should take less than 48 hours to figure that out and announce it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47015783) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 1:33 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate I think they want to figure out who got him on the field how. I think that's going to take more time than saying it's not a Chips coach, and they want some more finality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47016122) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 1:34 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan's latest theory is Ohio State is actually behind the sign stealing. https://www.on3.com/teams/michigan-wolverines/news/michigan-media-gathering-evidence-on-private-investigators-and-their-links-to-osu-more-on-jim-harbaugh-extension/ |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 4:08 PM Author: puce arousing pervert Their theory is that Ohio State should be blamed for exposing their cheating? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47016617) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 4:10 PM Author: amber dog poop Michigan is going to absolutely destroy OSU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47016621) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 4:31 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness cr and there will be no excuses. they should have waited until after the game to release this since that would give them an out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47016699) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 2:10 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47018372) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:05 PM Author: Bisexual Partner The Game is going to be 1800000 this year. I don't care who wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029573) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 4:29 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lol everyone knows it’s Ryan day his job is on the line and he has to travel to Ann Arbor this month with a first year starter at qb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47016694) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 7:06 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Stalions fired. https://x.com/DanWetzel/status/1720576421616033813?s=20 |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 8:33 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version WOOT THERE IT IS! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47017512) |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 8:30 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate No snitches, military code. https://x.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1720582044294762849?s=20 |
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Date: November 3rd, 2023 8:34 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Who's going to do it, YOU LIEUTENANT WEINBERG?!?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47017515) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 7:39 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47018562) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 2:26 PM Author: khaki institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019415) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 2:27 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy carmine box office codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019420) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 4:04 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth NCAA rules don't require proof HC knew for him to be held accountable for assistant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019695) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 4:08 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater C O P E O P E |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 4:43 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version You're going to be the one coping. This is the end of Harbaugh at Michigan. It's clear as DAY. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019856) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 6:30 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Jim "2-5" Harbaugh (with 1 quasi-forfeit that doesn't count in 2020). Guy is a total loser who had to cheat to avoid going 0 for the career vs the Bucks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47020173) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 6:29 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Enjoy the next 10+ years of getting GAPED by BIG BUCKEYE COCK, just like the last 20 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47020165) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 7:46 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Fired staffer says Harbaugh and other coaches didn’t know what he was up to
https://x.com/brucefeldmancfb/status/1720627290323685471?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 8:01 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Military code, no snitches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47018603) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 3:31 PM Author: amber dog poop Ryan Day crying right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019600) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 4:09 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater Day knows he's toast lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47019726) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 7:59 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL. WE BESEECH YOU TO RESPECT DUE PROCESS! EVEN THOUGH OUR EMPLOYEE ISN'T COOPERATING. HIS RIGHTS MUST BE RESPECTED.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38818654/michigan-urges-big-ten-respect-due-process-ncaa-investigation |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 8:20 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Run out the clock situation for this NOWAG. He knows that all that no one cares about the asterisk so just go for the win. It's amazing how Michigan is slow walking this. Impressive shitlawyers
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Date: November 4th, 2023 8:37 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version I think the CMU sitch is just odd enough if that comes out before the playoff teams are picked, and somebody big from Michigan's coaching staff (Harbaugh or his kid) called a CMU staffer to get him on the field, that could blow up the team this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47020587) |
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Date: November 4th, 2023 11:02 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate No, it probably Stalions with a former Mich turned Chip asking to do a solid. I fantasize about Harbaugh taking a fall but he's too busy with whole milk and diapers to pay attention to this shit in the weeds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47021031) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 10:57 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Injured players contemplate suing Michigan for getting a head start on hitting them. https://www.insidezonemf.com/p/fortuna-files-clock-is-ticking-on |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 1:17 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station ROFL. Good luck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025461) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:25 PM Author: Laughsome stag film mexican Consider that state courts in every state where Michigan played allegedly with the benefit of stolen signs would have personal jurisdiction over the Michigan boys. Then, all the plaintiffs would need to do is find one co-defendant from the state where the lawsuit is filed to prevent removal.
On second thought, you may be right. If we were talking about SEC college towns literally home-teaming Michigan, they would be screwed, but lol at the fags in Madison, Iowa City, or Bloomington doing anything like that. |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 2:20 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate After a week, CMU still has no answers about whether Connor Stalions is on sideline, has referred to NCAA lmao https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/38833288/ncaa-joins-central-michigan-investigation-sideline-staffer |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 2:22 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry This is, by far, the funniest part of all this. If true, how the fuck did this guy get on the CMU sidelines, in full CMU gear? What was he even doing there? He couldn't have been filming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025745) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 2:25 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Depends on how deep the conspiracy theory hole you go. 1. Was he working up a proof of concept for better way to steal signs at field level as opposed to up in stands (seems weird). 2. Several former Michigan staffers are on CMU staff, they knew Stalions, did one of them say "yeah cool hyuk hyuk come watch Sparty." 3. Some shots with the right glare suggest he's wearing Ray Bans with a camera lens in the upper right corner. https://twitter.com/LateKickJosh/status/1719492426182598889 I mean I don't buy (3) but... this story is hilarious lmao |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 2:27 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry I heard a theory that CMU hired him for the game. They heard he was a good sign stealer and had the DL on MSU's signs so they had him do his thing for their game. Maybe that helped fund his war chest for the other scouting that he was organizing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025766) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:02 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness I don’t get how filming from the sidelines (mostly while standing behind the coaches) is better than filming from like row 8 of the stands (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025957) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:14 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry None of this shit really helps that much at all. It's all nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026008) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:30 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage Cr. A big nothingburger. The grandstanding by the other 13 Big Ten coaches is almost too much. More anti-Michigan tropes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026059) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:43 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry One of these Morons (definitely Franklin) claimed a 21 point advantage for...? some shitty Iphone videos that a lunatic 20 something staffer watched? Yes, this shit is totally out of proportion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026097) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:30 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station i think the videos could be helpful with many hours of post-game analysis.
basically after every game, i assume stallions made an excel sheet listing each play and then had columns for each signal observed in a video, whether it was a hand signal from a backup qb or a sign with a picture of an nba player. then he'd look for patterns between the plays and the signs. he'd have to figure out which signals were dummies and which were real. with enough plays across enough games, it would be possible to identify some subset of signs and what they mean.
then he made a play sheet for gameday that summarized sign-to-play relationships. he'd look at the signs used across the field and see if they fell into previously recognized patterns. and if he felt confident about run or pass or screen or whatever, he'd let the DC know. |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:34 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Yes, this is basically the same shit that every team does. In fact, a bunch of B1G teams all share their spreadsheets with one another. In reality, having a vague idea of what play might be coming and having about 20 seconds to relay that to 11 players on defense is of minimal competitive advantage. The NCAA said as much a few years back when they almost changed this rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026300) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:12 PM Author: Bisexual Partner You are drastically underestimating how advantageous this was if they actually knew what their opponents were going to run. The margins in football are tiny. If you make your opponent average 3 yards per carry, you win. If they average 4 yards per carry, you lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029601) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:39 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Oh, thanks for that. And if they average 7.2 ypc they beat your ass by 22 points. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029714) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:51 PM Author: Bisexual Partner Why do you have to be so defensive? If I was a Michigan fan, I would just hope the penalty isn't that bad and also that Michigan can continue being good without cheating. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:59 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Your poast was retarded so I responded in kind.
The NCAA penalty will be next to nothing. If the B1G is retarded enough to do something on its own UM has a TRO ready to go.
I would say there was no measurable benefit that UM gained from Stalions. Every program steals signs. Some programs, against B1G and NCAA rules, collude with each other to share what they've found out about upcoming opponents. Others go as far as to try to film other teams' practices. The net benefit of all of it is minimal to nothing. If there was anything of substance to be gained by sign stealing then teams would all use wristbands or the NCAA would have put mics in helmets 20 years ago. It's all nonsense. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:24 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47031993) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:08 PM Author: Bisexual Partner Why don't you buy the camera? Late Kick Josh is a CBS employee. He wouldn't knowing spread a false claim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029584) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 2:29 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage probably a friend at CMU who is about to get fired too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025773) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:18 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Def this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026019) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:00 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness How is Michigan still dominating without their sign stealer guy? If they win @ PSU I think this whole narrative goes away (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025949) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:03 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage Great question. Any Michigan haters wanna take a shot at answering how Michigan has continued to dominate the 2-5 Purdue Boilermakers without the extra advantage of sign stealing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47025969) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:46 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate It's great to see "Michigan Men" like you, Brian, are all pumos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026107) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:40 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage please don't out me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026691) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:20 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version This is the idiotic Pats defense. It doesn't matter if the cheating ACTUALLY helps you. It's that YOU THINK it helps you and therefore you continue to cheat by spying on teams and deflating balls to your QB's preference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026026) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:29 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026057) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:50 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness So we agree it gave no actual advantage? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026120) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:17 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version No. We agree it doesn't matter if the cheating was successful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026216) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:44 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness why doesn’t it matter if the team would still win anyway (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026363) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 3:45 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate They didn't cover last week for the first time all season in B1G play, pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026100) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:01 PM Author: Buck-toothed chad theater stage Is this true?? lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026171) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:31 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate 100% true pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026664) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:09 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness What about 49-0 against your Spartans when your qb was running to the sidelines to get each play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026194) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 4:18 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Go back to RCMB with this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026220) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 6:16 PM Author: hairraiser green ceo hell because they play in the weak ass big ten. easy to win when your schedule consists of indiana, rutgers, illinois, etc... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026806) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:14 PM Author: Bisexual Partner Because they are actually good now.
The cheating allowed Harbaugh to not get fired and win games and improve his recruiting. Now he actually has a good team whether they cheat or not. |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:04 PM Author: Abusive Cordovan Jap Harbaugh brought in nature boy Ric Flair today to tell the haters what's up.
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1721578723500007933 |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:05 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47026508) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 6:57 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028229) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:30 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate WAIT GUISE OTHER TEAMS AKSHULLY STOLE MICHIGAN'S PLAYS. https://apnews.com/article/michigan-sign-stealing-452b6a83bb0d0a3707f633af72fe92ac |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 8:30 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47027335) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 9:13 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry SI confirms collusion among at least a few B1G teams
Edit: Forgot to add that Pete Thamel had this for well over a week and decided not to print it. Odd case. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:29 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base Thamel got rejected from Michigan 28 years ago and had to go to Syracuse instead.
https://x.com/davidshuster/status/1721748769354489884?s=61 |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 9:43 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47035819) |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 5:36 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate B1G has officially given Michigan notice that ban hammer coming https://x.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1721642467844374706?s=20 |
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Date: November 6th, 2023 8:27 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LET'S GO!
HARBAUGH BANNED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!!!111 |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:16 PM Author: Bisexual Partner Would be 180 if Petiti banned Harbaugh from all postseason games with the exception of the conference championship and any playoff games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029617) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 6:35 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate ncaa investigation so far says Harbaugh didn't know. https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-ncaa-revealed-michigan-findings-to-big-ten-conference-mulling-jim-harbaugh-suspension-212327599.html |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 8:59 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness You could suspend Harbaugh indefinitely at this point and Michigan will still run the table. They’re so much better than everyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028452) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 9:15 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Yeah, that PSU/OSU game looked like retards scuffling. UM should win both of those games fairly comfortably. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028497) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 9:44 AM Author: hairraiser green ceo hell "They’re so much better than everyone else."
easy to be better than east carolina, unlv, bowling green, rutgers, minnesota, indiana, purdue, maryland. big ten conference and their noncon is a fucking joke. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 9:56 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Well, some teams scuffle against, say, Rutgers and Indiana, while UM blows them out. To say it in a broader, non-OSU-related way, pretty much every good team has looked like shit against a bad team this year except UM so there's that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028606) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:09 AM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth scum beat shitgers 31-7 and the Buckeyes won 35-16. WOW HUGE DIFFERENCE! Shitgers still your best win since you've played no one. Regarding shit teams and your lazy "point" you beat Purdue 41-13 at home, the Bucks beat them 41-7 in West Lafayette so I guess you're fucked! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028911) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:15 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Lol, what was the halftime score of the OSU Rutgers game? What was the total yardage for each team? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028930) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:15 AM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth in your game it was 10-7 at half what's your point. Neither were impressive. Unreal how uppity you guys have gotten after only a two year break from getting your shit pushed in annually for two decades. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028933) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:20 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry 14-7 at half, UM outgains Rutgers by almost 200 yards and pulls starters in 4th quarter.
Sounds pretty similar to last week's OSU Rutgers Game?
I know you're an OSU alum but you can't be dumb enough to want to compare these two teams on eye test this year. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:23 AM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth It's going to be sweet dominating your shit program again for the foreseeable future. Such a scummy, delusional fanbase. Enjoy your 1/2 title, you're never getting another one. You should be more worried about pedo st taking you to the showers this weekend than this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028955) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:29 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry PSU is a total fraud this year. McCord is not going to get it done against UM's Dline and Knowles is going to outwit himself and shit the bed yet again. Pettiti handing Harbaugh the B1G trophy this year is going to be amazing!
Fuck, despite all this shit I love college football! |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:30 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47032008) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 10:39 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Property records indicate that he purchased a $485,000 house near the Michigan campus in Ann Arbor in March 2022, shortly before his stint with the Marines ended. Not long after he moved in that spring, dozens of old vacuum cleaners appeared on his front porch. The unsightly stash peeved neighbors and sparked the interest of the homeowners association, which sued Stalions for allegedly operating an appliance refurbishing business out of his home in violation of its bylaws.
Stalions fought back and represented himself in Washtenaw County Trial Court. In a letter written in response to a summons in October 2022, he wrote:
“I suspect that whoever has chosen to sue me either 1. doesn’t like the fact that I am a veteran; or 2. is a Michigan State fan and knows I am a Michigan football coach and wants to draw my attention away.” He had one Spartans fan in mind—“someone named Jeff” who lived down the street and had a son attending Michigan State.
“He uncomfortably questioned me about Michigan football and what goes on in our building, giving me a bad feeling about him. He definitely seemed like someone who wants to distract me with unnecessary time-consuming things like this,” Stalions wrote. Stalions said that he continued keeping long hours through the summer and fall of 2022, often spending “all 24 hours in the day at Schembechler Hall.” Before the Penn State game in October, he wrote that he slept there for two straight weeks.
As for the lawsuit, Stalions admitted to starting a limited liability company to sell restored items on Amazon, but said that he kept his inventory in a nearby storage unit. A judge ruled against him and ordered him to stop whatever business he was apparently running.
And those vacuums? Stalions sold many on Amazon with underwhelming results—several buyers complained of defective units with missing parts—that earned him a seller rating of 2.8 out of five stars. https://www.wsj.com/sports/football/michigan-sign-stealing-connor-stalions-jim-harbaugh-776ecc37 |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:08 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Well. He certainly does suck! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47028906) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:47 AM Author: sexy dark school This is the first interesting piece of this clusterfuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029020) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:50 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry There was an earlier SI piece on Stalions as well. The guy is a fucking lunatic. If UM is liable for anything it's for negligently hiring this nut job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029028) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:54 AM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Probably just a weird coincidence that scums only success in two decades happened to be the only years this guy's cheating operation was in place. Odd case! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029038) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:59 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Yeah, the lunatic vacuum repair guy is responsible for UM blowing out OSU the past two years. You do realize OSU coaches and players stated that they changed their signs ahead of the 22 game, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029052) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:03 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth I guess you guys built this huge cheating apparatus because it didn't help at all right? Also, fake news they didn't have time to change all their signs. Keep the COPE up, those holes are getting STRETCHED by sanctions very soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029062) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:10 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Who is you guys? Stalions and his parents? Yes, all his bullshit didn't do anything.
The stuff about OSU changing signs was reported everywhere. check your own shithole blogs like 11 warriors for it.
Last year in the B1G championship game UM knew that Purdue had their signs. You know what UM did? They went to fucking wristbands, in the middle of the game. This is what you do when you think someone has your signs. It's really fucking easy. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Cope cope cope. Cmon man theres video of stallions telling your OC and DC what plays to call. Punishment is coming. Whatever, let’s see! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029111) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:21 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry I'll break this down for you: Stalions was UM's sign stealer guy. Every team has at least one of these guys. During games, they all stand next to the coordinators and try to give their best guess as to what play is coming. This is all known and done by all teams.
That UM's guy was a lunatic who bought tickets for friends and family to opposing teams' games was not known by anyone except Stalions' friends and family. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:25 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth LOL if you actually believe this. Let me break it down for you, under NCAA rules even if what you said is true, Harbaugh can be held accountable for the actions of his coaches even if no direct knowledge is proven. This + the other investigations re recruiting, kiddie porn, etc...it's going to be bad for SCUM. Remember what they did to Ohio St because some kids traded jerseys for tattoos? You're going down. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029140) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:37 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry I remember what they did to Tressel, who straight-up lied, multiple times, to the NCAA so that half his team didn't lose eligibility for the year. He'd get fired for that shit today.
Yes, the NCAA now holds a head coach accountable for anything and everything. Doesn't change the fact that, in reality, Harbaugh had no idea about Stalions. But honestly, who gives a fuck about the NCAA? It's completely toothless; just look at the recent Tennessee or UNC scandals. And yeah, had tattoogate happened today, Tressel would have had no need to lie about it and nothing would have happened.
If there's anything of consequence coming it will be from the B1G in the next day or two. And as far as that goes, I have no idea. Pettiti may very well suspend Harbuagh for the rest of the season. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:55 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth "Doesn't change the fact that, in reality, Harbaugh had no idea about Stalions."
Fact because you say so? If Harbaugh truly had no idea then he has no control over his program and is a totally incompetent HC. There might be no concrete evidence linking him, but come on man. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Ncaa says so. The guy paid for these tickets himself, in his own name. It doesn’t make sense that anyone else above Stalions would know. All inside info says Stalions was rogue on all of this. If this was known throughout UM staff then they deserve whatever they get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029323) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 1:17 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth "If this was known throughout UM staff then they deserve whatever they get."
Keeping this for posterity when the full story comes out. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 1:38 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry This is such an idiotic, poorly executed scheme that I want anyone who had anything to do with it as far away from UM as possible. Show causes for them all as far as I'm concerned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029438) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Tan mood trump supporter A modern day Ignacius Riley (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029045) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:12 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate lmao omg it's exactly him minus 200 pounds. Where's his Myrna? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029097) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:18 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Okay, so basically what we know is this: Stalions is one of these "Michigan Men" with some kind of autism and Bill Simmons OMG Sporth! pipe dreams. He figures out that sign stealing is great and figures out he's good at solving it. He then figures out he just needs to flagrantly violate a couple of rules--he live scouts and he records signs. This is a five-figure a year operation with a network of 60-ish people (just locals he hits up) to go to the game and record the sideline the whole time. The autist even sneaks onto the field at Central Michigan because one of his bros at Michigan is now a Chip and lets him do it. Meanwhile, he's autistically planning a 600 page manifesto, dreaming he can be the next Mike Leach as a non-FB bro to run a program, while "unlocking" the "secret sauce." So the real key here is, how much did he tell? He clearly got repaid for all this shit, so did he just lie on receipts as "recruiting visits" and hope he wasn't caught? Did the coaches around him just assume, "Man it's military shit and this guy can see it at the beginning of the game and scraps of what he sees on the All 22 tape and the autist solves it all"? Or, did some of the coaches know, to some generic level of sketch, that shit was going down but they didn't want details? And what level of this shit before Harbaugh "lacks institutional control" or whatever bullshit phrase it is to get punished? It's clearly an edge (degree to which unknown), but shocking circumstantial evidence that it's big (they go from 2-4 to one of the best teams in the country overnight; they cover the spread in 80%+ of B1G games; they get blown out in the CFP when teams switch signals). Whatever, they'll probably run the table and get sodomized by Georgia in January who cares lmao. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 12:50 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station funny to see the first signals published publicly are stolen michigan signals from 2020-2022
https://twitter.com/RJ_cfb/status/1721934657132900552?s=20 |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:01 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lol this is the dumbest scandal ever. and it’s all because Ryan Day’s teams can’t beat Michigan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029555) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 2:35 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47029702) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 5:11 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030388) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:34 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47032018) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 4:54 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry OSU and Rutgers collude to steal UM signs and pass them on to Purdue ahead of B1G championship.
https://twitter.com/Johnubacon/status/1721983221171421455?
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Date: November 7th, 2023 5:13 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater lol this is only a "scandal" because Ohio State can't beat Michigan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030397) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 5:21 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030432) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 5:33 PM Author: Cruel-hearted Property Police Squad Lul if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030487) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 5:50 PM Author: Tan mood trump supporter Lol compare that to UM's guy in disguise on the opposing team's sideline stealing signals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030572) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 6:13 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Except, you know, this is 100% legal lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030685) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Seems like advance in person scouting to me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030827) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 7:12 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate How was Fordham Law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030892) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 7:24 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry So Stalions buys his mom a ticket and that’s a violation but somehow this isn’t?
Also violation of the B1G sportsmanship clause which is how they’re trying to suspend Harbaugh. |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 7:20 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness How did Michigan score any points if Purdue knew all of their plays? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030933) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 6:18 PM Author: Bisexual Partner U mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030705) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 7:26 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry No. UM quickly realized this and went to wristbands during the game and proceded to blow them out. No need to hire your bro’s PI firm to tattle on your rival. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47030966) |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 7:56 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Blake Corum registered an LLC for dat NIL $$$ to Connor Stalions's address. https://x.com/lainehiggins17/status/1722053129858929052?s=20 |
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Date: November 7th, 2023 11:47 PM Author: puce arousing pervert https://twitter.com/runthistrain/status/1722059474280546724
LOL |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 1:39 AM Author: Bisexual Partner My hope for this resolution:
1. With all this controversy, Michigan has the feel of a national championship team. I can already see the 30s for 30s. I hope that doesn't happen so Michigan continues its 70 run of title futility just for the lulz.
2. I hope Harbaugh and the program gets a slap on the wrist punishment as I expect so everyone hates them.
3. I hope their performance drastically drops off to how it was before they started cheating so everyone thinks the last 2 years of success was only because of the cheating.
It could all happen! |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:13 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan will get gaped by Georgia and no one will care. They'll probably rape Ryan Day again tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034350) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:25 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Georgia may not even make the playoffs this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034410) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:27 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate How's Knoxville. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034429) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:32 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Uhh, Tuscaloosa. Alabama is good and looking better each week. No way a 1 loss, non-conference champ Georgia makes the playoff this year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034457) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:42 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate If that's Georgia's only loss, unless it's a blowout, they are 100% in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034496) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:47 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Over an undefeated or one loss Pac-12 champ? Over a 1 loss Texas? What would Georgia's best win be? Ole Miss? They'd have total shit SoS and no conference championship. I don't see it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034513) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:48 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate It's the same way Michigan would get in with a loss to Ohio State or Penn State, "eye test" and one shit win they project as "good." The committee last night was fucking praising Ohio State for a "good win" for Rutgers which has a "top 20" defense, it's all a complete joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034519) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:49 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Rutgers is still *ich's "best" win LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034521) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:51 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Strength of schedule: Marshall 108 Georgia Southern 109 App State 110 Michigan 111 Buffalo 112 UTEP 113 Old Dominion 114 James Madison 115 One is ranked #2 in AP, one is ranked #21. |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 4:00 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Don't forget 7-2 UNLV! UM will have two top ten wins by the end of the season, though, so it will all shake out just fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034566) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:55 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry No way a 1 loss UM gets in. OSU is the only team in the country that stands a chance at this and they would need a ton of stuff to break their way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034548) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 5:29 PM Author: Bisexual Partner 😆 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034973) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 12:45 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Big Ten expected to suspend Harbaugh tomorrow, his resignation expected to follow
https://www.sanfranchronicle.com/breaking-news-jim-harbaugh-to-resign-amid-cheating-allegations-wxyqoj |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:13 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate B1G commissioner calls Michigan scandal worse than Paterno: https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1722260758359372237 lmaoooooooo |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:38 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Every fucking aspect of this is as insane and retarded as it possibly could be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034486) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 9:40 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47035810) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 9:08 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater this is the dumbest "scandal" I've ever seen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47036853) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 3:48 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan legislature orders B1G to stop. https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1722354213567508761 |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 4:14 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Big 10 walking back it’s plans to discipline Harbaugh
https://x.com/joshhenschke/status/1722352936045416633?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 4:16 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Only took Pettiti a week to realize that fucking with his own conferences best shot at a national title may not be the best move. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034667) |
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Date: November 8th, 2023 4:17 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth ? He's not fucking with the Buckeyes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47034675) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 2:00 AM Author: titillating heaven pozpig It’s not even close this year, man. That could all change in The Big Game but it’s not looking likely. This whole sign-stealing thing has a good chance of backfiring - everyone is going to come out of it looking bad, Harbaugh will not be suspended this year (would be bitch tactic anyway), and it’s brought Michigan closer together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47036459) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 2:02 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47036460) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 9:14 AM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater Cuckeyes are scared (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47036865) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 9:57 AM Author: big ruby university dingle berry I didn't think it was possible for Ryan Day to be more of a bitch but he may come out of this looking even worse than he already does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037023) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:38 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth The point is Bucks are still B1Gs best chance for a title. *ich are built for the B1G but get GAPED by anyone out of conference. They couldn't run with TCU last year and they would get embarrassed by any of the other teams likely to make the playoffs this year. The Bucks on the other hand had UGA beat, but for that absurd retraction of the targeting call on MHJ and a missed FG. *ich would have lost to UGA by 20pts. I don't know what will happen in THE GAME, but if SCUM wins, I know they will lose their CFP semifinal game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037579) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:45 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Stroud's gone. Honda's not getting you there. There's no disagreement, outside of Columbus, about who the best B1G team is. You're delusional and living in the past. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037594) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:46 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth You don't need a 1st round draft pick at QB to win, see for example UGA last year and the year before. All McCuck has to do is not turn the ball over, Bucks have an elite defense, the best WR/TE combo in the country and with Henderson back a great rushing attack. Lube up for the next decade, hope you enjoyed this two year blip. You also in no way addressed my point that even if you win THE GAME, *ich doesn't have the horses to win in the CFP against non-B1G teams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037598) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:55 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Dude, you're stuck in 2022. UM has the best Dline and maybe the best Oline in the country, a Heisman favorite at QB and elite RBs and TEs. Every aspect of the team is as good or much improved from last year. OSU has looked pretty bad for large portions of 2023. SP+ has UM's defense and offense both above OSU's. UGA is not what it was the past two years (and ljl at you for comparing 23 OSU to 21 or 22 GA) and no other team is taking that place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037622) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:57 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Whatever you have to tell yourself buddy, we'll see soon enough. JJ Heisman with 0 TD passes v. Purdue, nice! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037633) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry JJ’s bad games look like McCord’s good games. Honestly, though, we should find out a lot this weekend about UM. Lots of projection and potential to be great but a game against an actual opponent will be very telling. And if you’re being honest, you know this is not a vintage OSU team, especially on offense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037707) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:35 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth JJ is #1 in B1G QBR, McCord is #2. They have the same # of TD v. conf opponents and McCord has more passing yards. This is the best Buckeye defense since at least 2019, and these are probably the best crop of WR/TE we've ever had. Healthy Henderson is perhaps the best most versatile back since Zeke (only exception good be JK). The Buckeyes won a MNC with fucking Craig Krenzel. I know you are trying to make yourself feel better, but while the Bucks don't have as fancy a QB as they had the last few years this is a much better and tougher team overall than '21 and '22. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037781) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 7:41 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Uh oh. You know an OSU fan is getting desperate when they start talking ablut toughness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47039077) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 7:54 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth No one is afraid of your program little buddy. Like I said, we hope you enjoyed this two year blip, the next 20 years are going to look like 2001-2021 did. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47039123) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 3:06 PM Author: Erotic dragon lol oh no 0 TD passes along with his 335 yards and 65% completion rate in a 5 score blowout, now UM will never succeed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47038108) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:55 PM Author: Odious location The Fraudeyes are bad. Should have lost to a mediocre notre dame team (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037627) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:58 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth That must be why they're ranked #1, because they suck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037641) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:36 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater They've ranked #1 so retards like you can argue online (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037788) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:42 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station a scholar speaks: https://www.yalejreg.com/nc/sign-stealing-and-the-antitrust-laws/
As anyone who follows college football is aware, the University of Michigan is under investigation from the NCAA and Big 10 Conference for “sign stealing”—gathering information on future opponents’ play signals. Given Michigan’s national title aspirations, the potential for sanctions is obviously bad news. Michigan has now fired back with evidence that three other Big 10 teams—Rutgers, Ohio State, and Purdue—shared Michigan’s signs. Tu quoque aside, it turns out that sign stealing isn’t prohibited by NCAA rules. Rather, the issue is whether Michigan (or other teams) violated NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1 that prohibits “off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season).”
Before turning to the antitrust issues raised by enforcement of that rule, let me make it clear that, although I am employed by the University of Michigan, I do not represent it. These comments are solely my personal opinion. Further, although I of course don’t want Michigan to be penalized, I also would not want the Maize and Blue, or anyone else, to get away with cheating. Fair is fair, and foul is foul.
But the “cheating” question goes to the core of the antitrust issue. As already mentioned, there apparently isn’t any rule about gathering intelligence on an opponent’s signs. If a school can do that by reading lips from a TV screen, more power to them. The relevant rule isn’t about the integrity of the game like 11 men on the field or ineligible receivers. According to MLive, the rule was adopted in 1994 “as a cost-cutting measure designed to promote equity for programs that couldn’t afford to send scouts to other games.” In other words, if Michigan has cheated, it has cheated on a financial rule rather than one concerning the game itself.
Enter antitrust law. In recent years, NCAA rules that limit economic competition by member schools have been in serious antitrust trouble. In 2021, the Supreme Court unanimously held that the NCAA’s enforcement of rules limiting member school compensation of student athletes up to the full cost of their education violates Section 1 of the Sherman Act. National Collegiate Athletic Ass’n v. Alston, 141 S. Ct. 2141 (2021). Six years earlier, the Ninth Circuit reached a similar decision regarding NCAA’s restrictions on student athlete name, image, and likeness rights. O’Bannon v. National Collegiate Athletic Ass’n, 802 F.3d 1049 (9th Cir. 2015). In the more distant past, the Supreme Court held that NCAA limitations on television broadcasting violated the Sherman Act. National Collegiate Athletic Assn. v. Board of Regents of Univ. of Okla., 468 U.S. 85 (1984). The common thread of these cases is that NCAA rules that limit member schools from freely determining how to allocate their resources can run afoul of the antitrust laws, even if (or perhaps because) those rules are designed to achieve intercollegiate economic parity.
To the extent that Bylaw 11.6.1 is intended to prevent schools from competing economically by determining how much to spend on their athletic programs, it runs squarely into Alston, O’Bannon, and Board of Regents. The NCAA or Big 10 might have a shot at justifying the rule as equalizing economic expenditures among member schools in order to promote competitive balance. The NCAA has made such arguments in the past, and in O’Bannon the Ninth Circuit accepted that promoting competitive balance may be a legitimate procompetitive justification in theory. The problem is that the courts have rejected the competitive balance justification in practice. See, Alston, 141 S. Ct. at 2152 (observing that NCAA had unsuccessfully attempted to justify its player compensation rules as promoting competitive balance); O’Bannon, 802 F.3d at 1072 (“We [] accept the district court’s factual findings that the compensation rules do not promote competitive balance.”). Anyone trying to justify Bylaw 11.6.1 as promoting competitive balance will have an uphill climb.
This is a bad time for the NCAA or Big 10 to be rattling antitrust cages. The courts are already grumpy with NCAA rules that limit economic competition, and the Justice Department has shown a heightened interest in antitrust issues in sports. The sign stealing scandal may be fodder for either jokes or righteous (hypocritical?) indignation for now, but it could unleash something that no one in the NCAA or Big 10 would want. Caveat emptor.
Daniel A. Crane is the Richard W. Pogue Professor of Law at the University of Michigan Law School. |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:43 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate this fight is getting stale, I need more vacuum cleaner scam stories. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037588) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 12:57 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station it started with a carefully orchestrated drip of leaks for a week. that whipped up a frenzied mob demanding action. but now cooler heads are stepping back and looking at the whole situation. people are realizing acting quickly with limited information would be crazy. even the media narrative has started to shift with the exception of know-nothing loudmouths like stephen a smith and pat mcafee. it's time to wait. it could be a day or two for big10 response or they may choose to do nothing at all. it'll be months or years before the ncaa does something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037634) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:03 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Will be absolutely hilarious if OSU still loses again after all this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037666) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:05 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth It's going to be SPS either way. If we lose people will say they were still cheating, if they lose they will blame the media circus for distracting the team. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037673) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lol no how can they argue Michigan is still stealing OSU’s signs after everything that’s out there? Theirs is even more pressure on Day now to not lose this game because sign-stealing was his excuse for getting gaped the last two years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037693) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:48 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth They will say *ich was engaged in sign stealing until 2 weeks ago and you can’t change the entire system in season with no bye week so they know at least some them. I’m not saying I agree, just both sides will make excuses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037826) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 1:49 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lol you guys still have to play that game no matter what. there’s no escaping it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47037834) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 4:44 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth ok, and? It's like *ich fans forget Fraudbaugh is 2-5 against the Buckeyes and that doesn't count his cowardly 2020 refusal to play. If we add in the forfeit and remove the two soon to be vacated wins, he will hopefully be 0-7 in THE GAME when he leaves after this season :) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47038439) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 2:25 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Big Ten backs off, now considering just fining Michigan
https://x.com/espnrittenberg/status/1722690199631647221?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug
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Date: November 9th, 2023 3:05 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate The lolyers basically spammed the B1G to slow them down, they had a 10 page document all about MUH PROCESS and literally nowhere did they deny the allegations lmao. Good for Michigan, tbh, it's a run out the clock situation, hope it drags on 9 weeks, win the natty, then no one cares about the asterisk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47038104) |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 7:12 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate 1.2 hours: copy pasta MGoBlog.
https://x.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1722752235010982276?s=20 |
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Date: November 9th, 2023 7:27 PM Author: titillating heaven pozpig Lol at his lazy-ass associates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47039023) |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 7:26 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Do you ever consider that Tom Mars (or his associate) IS that poster? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47040488) |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 3:13 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate decision about whether to suspend harbaugh tomorrow still being debated today but the lolyers are figuring out how clause 9.2 interacts with clause 7.6. https://twitter.com/CFBHeather/status/1723071197930197028 |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 3:35 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Sources: The Big Ten is expected discipline Michigan for the in the in-person scouting and ongoing sign stealing investigation and will prohibit Jim Harbaugh from being on the sideline until the conclusion of the regular season. He will be allowed to coach during the week. https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1723075635185373448 lmao this is going to get TROed so fast and Michigan fans will be in win/win mode: beat Day without Harbaugh and gloat, lost to Day without Harbaugh and complain it's because B1G interfered. |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 3:45 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Ban hammer has dropped. https://twitter.com/byAustinMeek/status/1723079173156000032 |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 3:52 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate https://bigten.org/documents/2023/11/10//Correspondence_from_conference_to_institution_dated_Nov_10_2023.pdf?id=9450
Notably, the University’s November 8 response does not deny that the impermissible scheme occurred. Instead, it offers only procedural and technical arguments designed to delay accountability. The University also argues that because it believes that others are engaged in decoding signs, there must be nothing wrong with the University’s activities. In addition to impermissible activities of others being currently unsupported by facts, the University’s culpability is not dependent on the actions of other institutions. Those assertions are more fully addressed in Sections III and V below. |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 4:38 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness UM response: this is bullshit and we’re immediately filing for a TRO
https://x.com/espnrittenberg/status/1723089774632673769?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 4:45 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler Fuck these people but announcing it on a court holiday was clever af (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47042392) |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 4:46 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness There’s a judge on standby for TROs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47042399) |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 6:35 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate It's incredible with 0L takes like these that this is still considered a "law" board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47042745) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 12:10 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler Never filed for a tro in my life, were not all child custody lawyers or whatevrr
I take that back I have done this in a trademark case but it was just a proforma thing iirc |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 5:08 PM Author: Abusive Cordovan Jap The conference has a handbook the provides a lot of procedure before the commissioner can issue a punishment and a short sportsmanship policy that allows the commissioner to issue a punishment without a lot of required process. UM says the conference needs to follow the full slate of handbook processes. The conference says the sportsmanship policy provides the necessary authority without requiring it to go through the full process.
The conference is probably right here. I don't see how UM wins the TRO motion. Next time, don't agree to give a petty tyrant all that authority if you're going to get mad when he uses it.
Here's the sportsmanship policy. Any MFEs see a way around this for UM?
https://bigten.org/documents/2022/11/23/2022_23_Big_Ten_Handbook_Sportsmanship.pdf |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 5:32 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Yes. Maintaining the status quo hurts no one, but the irreparable harm to UM is huge. If it’s later determined that the conference is correct then they can suspend him at that time. There’s enough ambiguity in the conference’s position here for UM to show reasonable likelihood of success on the merits. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47042559) |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 8:17 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Now yous can’t leave
https://x.com/stoolpresidente/status/1723130022712549644?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 10th, 2023 8:34 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lmao the TRO judge is a UM alum and lecturer at the law school
https://x.com/danmurphyespn/status/1723148711180587459?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 7:53 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Judge was changed but it doesn’t matter - no way it’s getting granted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044045) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 7:57 AM Author: Abusive Cordovan Jap Complaint and motion are available here: https://www.on3.com/news/read-jim-harbaugh-michigans-complaint-against-the-big-ten/
The argument that the sportsmanship policy allows punishment only of Stallions or UM, not of Harbaugh, is somewhat persuasive and could win UM its TRO.
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Date: November 11th, 2023 8:37 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Lol. No it isn’t. He’s in charge of the football team that violated the sportsmanship rule. Holding him accountable for what happened under his charge is literally done in every organization in the world. And they have to convince a judge that they will “likely” win to get a TRO. They’re nowhere close on that. Mind you, they never deny the underlying cheating. They already gave the Big 10 the right to do this.
It’s akin to going into federal court trying to get out of an arbitration clause. Not going to happen. |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 10:39 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Wow a pumo gets law right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044298) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 2:13 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version ! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044895) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 10:37 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate (Sixigan grad) https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1723363161376485494?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044296) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 10:36 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Judge to SIXIGAN: DING! Fag. https://x.com/PeteThamel/status/1723363161376485494?s=20 |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 11:26 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Will be hillarious if Michigan still wins. They have the entire conference trying to stop them including the conference president (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044429) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 2:14 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47044900) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 3:41 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness FUCK THE BIG TEN! GO BLUE!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47045105) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 3:46 PM Author: titillating heaven pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47045116) |
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Date: November 12th, 2023 8:31 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47046887) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 4:32 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness lmao Michigan’s interim head coach swore three times on live TV in his postgame interview
https://x.com/snoopysparty7/status/1723444743902732299?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 4:45 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Ironically, this is the kind of shit the B1G sportsmanship rule is usually used for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47045285) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 4:51 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness I expect a three game suspension (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47045307) |
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Date: November 12th, 2023 12:44 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47046554) |
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Date: November 11th, 2023 5:39 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler lib "male" named "snoopy sparty" lisping "but that's not normal!" at heartfelt public display of meaningful homosocial bond
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Date: November 12th, 2023 12:45 AM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47046559) |
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Date: November 15th, 2023 5:39 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan has no records of Connor Stalions filing any expense reports, FOIA request shows This is fascinating because it can point in two directions--either he was self-funding, really hiding it and genuinely no one knew; or there's some embezzlement level shit somewhere in the program. Draw your own inferences! |
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Date: November 15th, 2023 6:25 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Harbaugh's son probably paid him out of the petty cash drawer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47060541) |
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Date: November 15th, 2023 6:24 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Very interesting that Harbaugh hasn't said 1 word about how he condemns what Connor Stalions did or is embarrassed by it.
I wonder why that would be. Seems like it would be an obvious thing to say. |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 3:25 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate SIXIGAN LOLYERS roll over, give up. https://x.com/ralphDrussoAP/status/1725248011553386757?s=20 The good news for them is B1G will stop investigating, but NCAA is still the big dog here. |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 6:57 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL. His kid has to be involved. Only way it goes from WE WILL FIGHT TO THE END to this in under 4 days, tells you everything you need to know.
Notice how it very carefully only says Harbaugh not knowing and nothing about anyone else at Michigan knowing or not knowing. |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Fraudbaugh doesn’t want to commit perjury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47064584) |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 7:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version That was the funny part. He said he was going to go to the hearing. Uh, for what. For a TRO hearing. They aren't going to take witness statements. Guy is a fucking idiot for thinking the judge was going to ask him anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47064595) |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 7:05 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Their lawyers must've found some awful shit in discovery and realize they need to foot drag and hope NCAA is slow. Initiating litigation them abandoning tells you all you need to know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47064596) |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 7:06 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47064598) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:02 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066987) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:55 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LB Coach fired. Hmmm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066961) |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 3:34 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater Michigan did nothing wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47063805) |
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Date: November 16th, 2023 6:58 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Apparently, they did. Which is why they just laid down and accepted a 3 week suspension for their head coach in lieu of going to court tomorrow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47064583) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:56 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066964) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 10:56 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness So now if OSU wins, Michigan can just say OSU had to get their coach suspended to beat them, but if Michigan wins, Ryan Day gets fired? Probably not what he envisioned when he told on Michigan to the NCAA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066726) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 8:51 PM Author: Appetizing apoplectic crotch base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47069107) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:23 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate drip drip drip... Michigan fires its linebackers coach. https://twitter.com/RealTonyGarcia/status/1725550010131992602 |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:43 AM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Makes sense. Linebackers would be the biggest beneficiaries of sign stealing since they change their actions if it’s a run versus a pass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066904) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:47 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version LOL. Fuckers still have admitted anything. Imagine them releasing that statement yesterday "clearing" Harbaugh. What a fucking farce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066921) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:35 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan leaders were presented new evidence this week in the NCAA's investigation into its advance scouting scheme, sources tell @DanWetzel & me.
The materials, presumably, have altered its approach. UM dropped legal action vs Big Ten. Today, it fired assistant Chris Partridge https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1725552752460197893 |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:48 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler will be 180 hearing buckeyes seethe for decades about how Michigan's 2024 national championship "doesn't count" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066926) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 11:57 AM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version tOSU will beat them by like 20. And I hate both fucking teams. No way this team would beat GA, Bama or even Washington. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066968) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:01 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate the notion that Michigan will come within single digits of Georgia or Alabama is comical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47066986) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 4:35 PM Author: idiotic potus deer antler "sec speed" he lisped from an east Lansing bathhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47068222) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:26 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth How’s AA? Scum’s title delusions ain’t c’n Christmas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067073) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:02 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry tell me again about how UM can crush OSU but only OSU can beat Bama/Georgia. Guess what, there's no back door to the playoffs this year. OSU's season will be effectively over next Saturday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067430) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:04 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Please link me to *ich’s playoff wins and MNC since 1950, TYIA! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067697) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:17 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan is cranking out statements, here's another. https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1725563166665429094 |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:37 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version HEY MICHIGAN, state the "employee privacy laws" that prevent you from telling people why you fired this guy. PLEASE. With specificity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067110) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:21 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Breaking: NCAA presented Michigan evidence that points to a UM booster - “Uncle T” - as having partially funded the scouting scheme & an assistant coach, now-fired Chris Partridge, as attempting to destroy computer evidence, sources tell @DanWetzel & me. https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1725562920006795282 |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:39 PM Author: Cocky frozen scourge upon the earth Their program is done for years, soo CR. I hope we hang 100 on them in Cbus next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067118) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 12:40 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Nobody ever with Uncle in their nickname was up to good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067127) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 1:30 PM Author: khaki institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067326) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:15 PM Author: thriller dysfunction filthpig Retard made $625k per year and blew up the program by not understanding that his emails don't disappear when he hits "delete" from his inbox (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067460) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:21 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Link to the deleted email thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067480) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:54 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Per an ESPN source, this is the specific language Michigan used to explain Chris Partridge’s firing: “As we discussed today, the university has received evidence that you have failed to abide by the university directive not to discuss an ongoing NCAA investigation with anyone associated with the Michigan football program or others and as a result has determined that you have failed to satisfactorily perform your duties.” https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1725589273611567579 |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 2:55 PM Author: chartreuse multi-colored reading party gas station so he was interviewed by the ncaa and then talked about the interview with others? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067643) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:11 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate According to The Michigan Insider’s Sam Webb ($), Partridge, “Advised some of the players on what to say (to investigators) about their interaction with Stallions. One or more of the players told investigators (what Partridge instructed them to do). When Michigan found out, they reacted with immediate termination. So it wasn’t involvement in the scheme itself, but it was an attempt to quell suspicion.” https://www.maizenbrew.com/2023/11/17/23965634/michigan-wolverines-college-football-chris-partridge-ncaa-uncle-t-connor-stalions-sign-stealing |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 4:59 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version Probably also involved in the scheme. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47068308) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:01 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Incredible "negotiators" at SIXIGAN, they could have gotten Harbaugh back for Ohio State because of a B1G deal, but dragged their feet, then the Partridge info came out and they backpeddled lmao. https://www.si.com/college/2023/11/17/michigan-believed-deal-was-possible-to-reduce-harbaugh-suspension |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:04 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version No way Big Ten was going to reduce the suspension. That was wishful thinking on Michigan's part. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067692) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:33 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry Yeah, pretty bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067845) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:06 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Michigan is still going to beat Ohio State and no one will care about this then except MAF OSU fans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067720) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:34 PM Author: big ruby university dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47067849) |
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Date: November 17th, 2023 3:37 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan athletics donor Tim Smith denies his involvement in the NCAA’s investigation into the university’s advance scouting scheme and believes that those in power are searching for a “scapegoat” to blame, he tells Yahoo Sports.
Smith, a Michigan alum and CEO of a Detroit-based engineering solutions company, said fans and university associates are identifying him as the Michigan booster who allegedly helped fund former UM staff member Connor Stalions’ in-person scouting and sign-stealing scheme. Yahoo Sports reported earlier Friday that evidence from the NCAA’s investigation, presented this week to Michigan, refers to an athletics donor — “Uncle T” — as having partially funded Stalions’ venture.
“I can give you good news,” Smith said during a 30-minute phone call with Yahoo Sports. “I don’t recognize being known as ‘Uncle T’ and I will refute that myself. I never funded Connor. To say I knew him is perhaps overstating it. I said hi to him. I’ve spoken to him more since he left Michigan to make sure the young man is OK.”
Smith is being targeted, along with Stalions, as a “fall guy” in the NCAA’s probe into the school, Smith said. Both of them are being “thrown under the bus,” he said. On Friday morning, for instance, officials from the school’s name, image and likeness collective, Champions Circle, dismissed Smith as a member, he tells Yahoo Sports.
He received the notification in text form.
“They didn’t even have the balls to call me,” he said.
They evicted him from the group “because they said that this could bring bad light to other members of the Champions Circle,” Smith said.
Smith has spoken to Stalions multiple times since he resigned from the university after news of the scheme emerged. Smith said that the two are not close and that he knew him “as well as any other staff person” in the university’s football program.
Stalions self-funded the sign-stealing effort by selling a home for more than $100,000, Smith said Stalions told him.
The alleged scheme in which Stalions operated has been described as an elaborate, multi-year system in which he bought tickets to games involving future Michigan opponents and then had associates — as many as 65, per the NCAA’s investigation — attend games to video a team’s play-call signals.
“People don’t understand why he would do it,” Smith said. “He paid his own way. It meant a lot to him and he was trying to do whatever he could (for Michigan).” Smith said Stalions worked at the university long before he officially became an employee in 2022. Stalions, a graduate of the Naval Academy, paid his own way for flights to and from Ann Arbor in the preceding years before his full-time employment.
“He was taking leave (from the military),” Smith said. “He told me it was all him (paying for the scheme). That’s what he told me.
“I think there are people wanting to throw some people under the bus. ‘It’s all Connor and someone else!’ If Uncle T is me, I’m not aware that it is me.”
An online biography of Smith notes that he graduated from Michigan’s Ross School of Business and has over 30 years of successful international business experience in global automotive, technology and defense industries. He is currently CEO of Osirius Group, a company that provides automotive engineering solutions, defense security project design information technology optimization and cyber security and innovation services.
Smith and wife Jocelyn are longtime Michigan supporters, so much that Smith’s first words, the biography notes, were “Go Blue!”
Well before Yahoo Sports’ story published, Smith received a phone call Thursday night from his attorney asking if he was the now-infamous “Uncle T.”
Thursday was a busy day in Ann Arbor. The school dropped its legal action against the Big Ten over coach Jim Harbaugh’s three-game suspension when new evidence emerged, including the existence of “Uncle T” as well as the issue around linebackers coach Chris Partridge. Michigan fired Partridge on Friday, minutes before Yahoo Sports reported that the coach is believed to have destroyed evidence around the investigation. Smith said he’s been made aware that Partridge “told people not to talk,” as it related to the investigation.
On Thursday, Smith’s attorney was “being led to believe that, perhaps, there are some trying to create a fall guy narrative and maybe Uncle T was… My attorney called me and asked, ‘Is that f****** you?”
Smith has not spoken to anyone at Michigan or the NCAA about the investigation but would be happy to do so, he said. He said he has nothing to hide and he remains convinced that Stalions’ scheme broke no rules.
“If you read the rules, it’s not at all clear that any rules were broken,” Smith said. https://sports.yahoo.com/michigan-booster-tim-smith-denies-being-uncle-t-who-allegedly-funded-connor-stalions-sign-stealing-scheme-202933063.html |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 3:28 PM Author: insane twinkling uncleanness Harbaugh gets asked if he respects Ryan Day, gives 180 answer
https://x.com/buckeye_zone6/status/1726688436269261067?s=46&t=jKXH7m3p0jeKr--GrDZGug |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 3:41 PM Author: Snowy Menage Volcanic Crater based (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47079178) |
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Date: November 20th, 2023 9:45 PM Author: rose embarrassed to the bone senate new version State your IQ to think that's a good answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47080505) |
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Date: November 27th, 2023 4:17 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate "I want to set the record straight. I thought the cop was a prostitute." https://twitter.com/CoachCPartridge/status/1729247265699824100/photo/1 |
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Date: December 7th, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Michigan working on 5 year, $11MM/year deal for Harbaugh as long as he doesn't look for NFL job. https://twitter.com/RJ_cfb/status/1732794741685731386 |
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Date: December 10th, 2023 9:16 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Head coach fired, it's over. https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1734033225079533948 |
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Date: December 20th, 2023 3:06 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate NCAA files notice with Michigan. https://twitter.com/chengelis/status/1737563454179795180 |
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Date: January 16th, 2024 9:53 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate CONTRACT MASTERMEN THIS IS UR MOMENT Even as Jim Harbaugh meets with NFL teams about coaching opportunities, specifically the Los Angeles Chargers early this week, he remains engaged in discussions with Michigan about a contract extension that includes unusual termination clauses should he choose to stay in Ann Arbor, according to industry sources.
Specifically, sources said Harbaugh is seeking language that would grant him immunity from termination from any finding or sanction that could arise from multiple current NCAA investigations into the football program.
Harbaugh is also seeking a delay in the start date of the new contract to maintain a lower buyout that NFL teams would have to pay Michigan to hire him away. The buyout in his current contract dropped from $2.25 million to $1.5 million on January 11. Michigan is seeking that to rise to about $4 million in a new deal. Harbaugh has sought to have the new deal not start until Feb. 15, thus maintaining the lower, and more favorable, buyout number until after the NFL hiring cycle has concluded.
Harbaugh is seeking a matrix of fines be spelled out if there are any future NCAA violations as well as prohibiting the school’s athletic director from firing him “for cause” and instead having that decision, should it ever arise, rest in a three-member arbitration panel, sources said.
Harbaugh led Michigan to a 15-0, national championship season just over a week ago. He is a hot coaching commodity in the NFL, where he spent 14 seasons as a player and four as a coach (2011-14), leading San Francisco to a 44-19-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance.
Michigan has already offered to make Harbaugh the highest-paid coach in college football via a guaranteed six-year deal worth $11.5 million annually. There would be additional performance-based bonuses.
While the financial terms between the coach and the school are either fully or mostly ironed out, the termination language remains a sticking point.
Harbaugh and the football program are currently the subject of multiple NCAA infractions cases.
In December, the NCAA charged Harbaugh with a Level I violation for allegedly being less than forthcoming with investigators when questioned about a series of Level II violations incurred in 2020 and 2021. Additionally, the NCAA continues to investigate allegations of advanced scouting for the purpose of sign stealing that involves former staffer Connor Stalions.
Harbaugh served a school-issued three-game suspension to start the 2023 season for the first case. Meanwhile, the Big Ten suspended Harbaugh for the final three games of the regular season for the latter. More sanctions, and suspensions, are possible in both situations from the NCAA.
Harbaugh has sought to have his contract grant him immunity from termination for any violation stemming from those cases. It additionally spells out any penalty he may face should the NCAA rule him responsible in any future case. That would include specific fine amounts for any Level I or Level II violation.
He is also seeking to have any decision involving “for cause” termination — whether for NCAA violations or anything else — to be determined by a three-member arbitration panel rather than the school’s athletic director, a role currently held by Warde Manuel. Traditionally, for-cause termination of a coach would be determined by his direct supervisor. The athletic director would still be able to fire him for performance-related issues.
The arbitration panel is a system used by the university's president. It is common in university executive contracts, but not with coaches, according to numerous college administrators.
Harbaugh, 60, has spent nine years at his alma mater. Michigan has gone 86-25 during that stretch, including 30-3 the last three seasons when it won three Big Ten titles and made three College Football Playoff appearances. It defeated Washington last week for the school’s first national title since 1997.
The Chargers stated it interviewed Harbaugh for its head coaching position on Monday. Talks may continue into Tuesday, per industry sources. Seven NFL jobs are currently open, with speculation of potential openings still occurring in Dallas and Philadelphia. |
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Date: January 16th, 2024 9:57 AM Author: idiotic potus deer antler ljl at the NCAA bleating about "level II infractions" or whatever while All American WRs openly transfer to chase NIL bids and unproven coaches get eight figure deals
these idiots let the cat out of the bag a long time ago, no one takes them seriously nor will they ever again |
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Date: August 7th, 2024 12:53 PM Author: Adventurous state idea he suggested All frauds like the rest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47938717) |
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Date: January 25th, 2024 9:35 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Pete Carroll exit is complete. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47328589) |
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Date: January 25th, 2024 9:38 AM Author: Aphrodisiac fanboi https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/as-jim-harbaugh-negotiates-with-chargers-michigan-now-willing-to-grant-immunity-for-ncaa-violations/amp/ Anyways, bye! |
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Date: August 7th, 2024 12:52 PM Author: Vermilion doctorate Totally unrelated ban hammer has hit. https://x.com/ChrisVannini/status/1821217604209668342 |
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Date: August 7th, 2024 12:53 PM Author: Flushed Meetinghouse Goal In Life Wow so he can’t coach the Chargers now?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#47938720) |
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Date: August 7th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: very tactful marketing idea stain Four-year show-cause and a one-year suspension from everything if he comes back to college football. if he comes back... if he comes back... if he comes back... |
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Date: August 7th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: Flushed Meetinghouse Goal In Life Harbaugh: “I do not apologize. Also, go fuck yourself.”
https://x.com/barstoolsports/status/1820566068462821429?s=46 |
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Date: May 5th, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Vermilion doctorate Sherrone Moore suspended for 2 games, Central Michigan (FIRE UP, CHIPS!) and Nebraska (lube up!) https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45006503/sources-michigan-sherrone-moore-expected-get-2-game-ban |
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Date: August 16th, 2025 10:04 AM Author: detroitrockcity 10-year ban hammer compleat. https://www.si.com/college-football/ncaa-hammers-michigan-jim-harbaugh-most-penalized-cheater-connor-stalions |
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Date: August 16th, 2025 10:11 AM Author: Can an HSA pay for Hair Transplants? This is a fucking joke. A guy with no interest in coaching college football isn't allowed to coach college football and the school is fined? LMAO you'd have to be stupid to not steal signs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5430916&forum_id=2most#49189761) |