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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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bull headed lay
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
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bull headed lay
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
bull headed lay
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/17/25
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bull headed lay
  12/17/25
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Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
cracking elite home jap
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
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cracking elite home jap
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
hairraiser walnut volcanic crater theatre
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
mahogany odious indian lodge reading party
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Ultramarine Forum
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Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
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bull headed lay
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
talented blood rage
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Impressive Impertinent Yarmulke
  12/17/25
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Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell
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talented blood rage
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bull headed lay
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bull headed lay
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
hyperventilating preventive strike
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Spectacular Tanning Salon
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: bull headed lay



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: bull headed lay

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: bull headed lay

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: bull headed lay



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: cracking elite home jap

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: cracking elite home jap



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: hairraiser walnut volcanic crater theatre

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: mahogany odious indian lodge reading party

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Ultramarine Forum

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: bull headed lay



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: talented blood rage

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Impressive Impertinent Yarmulke

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chest-beating hell



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: talented blood rage



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: bull headed lay



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: bull headed lay



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: hyperventilating preventive strike

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Spectacular Tanning Salon

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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