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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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mauve station digit ratio
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
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mauve station digit ratio
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Pink field
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Pink field
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Pink field
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
mauve station digit ratio
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Pink field
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Pink field
  12/17/25
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mauve station digit ratio
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Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
judgmental school cafeteria boiling water
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
Passionate Crusty Regret
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judgmental school cafeteria boiling water
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Aromatic Soggy Institution
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Brindle tanning salon mental disorder
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Passionate Crusty Regret
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
supple khaki friendly grandma gas station
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mauve station digit ratio
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
topaz cuckoldry
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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topaz cuckoldry
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mauve station digit ratio
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mauve station digit ratio
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Pink field
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Pink field

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Pink field

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Pink field

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Pink field

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Pink field

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: judgmental school cafeteria boiling water

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: judgmental school cafeteria boiling water



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Aromatic Soggy Institution

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Brindle tanning salon mental disorder

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: supple khaki friendly grandma gas station

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: topaz cuckoldry

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Kink-friendly Sooty Pocket Flask

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Passionate Crusty Regret



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: topaz cuckoldry



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: mauve station digit ratio



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Pink field

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2most#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: doobsian galvanic university personal credit line

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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