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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:10 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness Friend was offered 45k scholarship (15k per year) to defer law school for this year. Apparently yield rates are too high.
Should he do it? |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:17 AM Author: Jade free-loading alpha immigrant 1000x yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919839) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:25 AM Author: electric range mexican HELL YES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920642) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:57 AM Author: cracking sepia persian heaven Link or flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921105) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 4:16 PM Author: Anal chad BFD. Back when I was applying (2005-2006) Northwestern was doing this for many straight throughers to inflate their median age. I was offered 120koro defer a year as were many others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14922669) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 6:15 PM Author: stimulating stag film hairy legs yep, and I took the deal, and I can't say good enough things about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14923616) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 6:20 PM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station highly dobut the sole (or even primary) purpose was to inflate the median age. there's no incentive to do that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14923670) |
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Date: June 13th, 2010 3:39 PM Author: Cerise rigpig helps maintain shtick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15235679) |
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Date: June 13th, 2010 3:40 PM Author: doobsian pit circlehead faggot nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15235682) |
Date: May 6th, 2010 2:15 AM Author: dun lay Fuck yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919827) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:19 AM Author: Flushed laughsome lodge idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919849) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:34 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness He has no job lined up for next year, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919927) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:40 AM Author: Vibrant Background Story teach lsat.
so he was going to pay sticker and now has 45k? that's awesome. i'd ask for 15k more just for good measure. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:41 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness Easier said than done. Aren't major US cities saturated with LSAT teachers already? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919962) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:41 AM Author: Vibrant Background Story I don't know. I worked for one of the companies. It was fun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919967) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:47 AM Author: Ivory hyperactive jew den Saturated with >175 scoring LSAT tutors? lmfaooooo no fuuuuuck no... I got all of my students off craigslist and was doing >5 at a time usually for 1-3 mths each |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:48 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness He's a UVA admit. I think he may only have scored 170 or 171. Can he still do tutoring through craigslist? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920005) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:50 AM Author: Ivory hyperactive jew den prob... he just won't be as good as I was
I think I successfully discouraged like 15 people from going to lower tiered law schools (or T14s) while still being paid for the LSAT |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 7:31 AM Author: motley haunting halford tanning salon what were you charging? 50?
all 1on1? |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:50 AM Author: Mustard cerebral azn forum So you're a 23 y/o nurse with 100K in the bank and a house in the Bahamas, who at some time in the past took the LSAT, scored in the mid-high 170s, and tutored people for the LSAT? STFU your flame has grown beyond your ability to control it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921059) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:00 PM Author: marvelous house-broken therapy yarmulke So you're a 23 y/o nurse with 100K in the bank and a house in the Bahamas, who at some time in the past took the LSAT, scored in the mid-high 170s, and tutored people for the LSAT? STFU your flame has grown beyond your ability to control it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921113) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 4:30 PM Author: brass scourge upon the earth So you're a 23 y/o nurse with 100K in the bank and a house in the Bahamas, who at some time in the past took the LSAT, scored in the mid-high 170s, and tutored people for the LSAT? STFU your flame has grown beyond your ability to control it.
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Date: May 6th, 2010 4:32 PM Author: bearded jet goal in life You seem dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14922780) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:19 AM Author: Emerald indian lodge So? Tell him to do some volunteer work while working a crappy job. That 1 year deferral will give him a chance to do something worth putting on a resume and give him something to talk about in an interview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920349) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:39 AM Author: Odious house Sit on ass, collect $45k. That's his fucking job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920997) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:40 AM Author: White pea-brained institution organic girlfriend holy shit yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919959) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:41 AM Author: aquamarine lettuce home this is the best deal ever. he can interview for a 2013 SA gig instead of a 2012. "Morning in America 2.0" will fucking kick in during 2012, so he'll be flying high in 2013. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919961) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 2:41 AM Author: adulterous whorehouse antidepressant drug UVA's coming out with some killers lately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14919965) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:50 PM Author: bat shit crazy ruddy public bath party of the first part lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14924953) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 7:19 AM Author: Galvanic location fat ankles Considering law schools raise tuition by 5k every year, I'd call it more or less a push. He'll get screwed in the long run whatever he chooses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920289) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:17 AM Author: Emerald indian lodge Not credited. OP said 15k/yr. That's a fantastic deal. He'd be an idiot not to take it. It'll also give him an opportunity to strengthen his resume by helping poors or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920345) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 9:29 AM Author: Galvanic location fat ankles I'm not saying it's a bad deal. I'm just saying you're not really guaranteed anything when they're offering you 15k/year off of whatever the hell they want to charge you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920474) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:26 AM Author: electric range mexican the bigger issue is that anyone who goes to law school this year is an idiot. he should be deferring anyway and the money is the icing ont he cake.
i wouldn't be surprised to see the tuition increases stagnate over the next few years, btw. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 7:40 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal High-end People Who Are Hurt Abode Sounds like a good deal. I would go to Europe or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920305) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 7:41 AM Author: Territorial puppy friendly grandma gee i can't imagine why yield rates are too high this year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920307) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:10 AM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station arent they very successful at snagging very mediocre students through their ED program? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920342) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:22 AM Author: yellow rambunctious prole headpube do you think they offered this to Blue Smoke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920354) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:44 AM Author: vigorous salmon locus knife omg, that would be SO awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920698) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 9:04 AM Author: Massive Cruise Ship Tell him to ask for the money up front. Then cut and run. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920431) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 9:24 AM Author: grizzly floppy library That's surprisingly cheap. If they have a real need to defer, most schools will approach full tuition. He should negotiate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920461) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 9:28 AM Author: Abusive Lilac Keepsake Machete Rehab FWIW, apparently WUSTL pulled the same thing (not sure about the $$$ though) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920467) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:24 AM Author: Wine thriller theatre blood rage Subject: I'm wrong So I'm an moron. This is a pretty decent deal. Post edited:
Tuition is rising at a rate of like 9% a year. And schools treat incoming students differently from current students. If you are already a student, the increase is maybe half that (from 1L-2L). And it's even less going from your 2L to 3L.
Scenario 1 - goes to school right away: 45,000 2010-11 47,250 2011-12 49,500 2012-13 141,750
Scenario 2 - waits a year: 49,000 - 15,000 2011-12 49,500 - 15,000 2012-13 52,000 - 15,000 2013-2014 105,500
Not a bad deal. But still might more than make up for this by practicing law for an extra year. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:36 AM Author: Coral milk ohai dood whose inability to read is no impediment to lengthy screeds!
i also like how there's two years of overlap b/w a class of 2012 and 2013 dood, but the 2013 dood is paying higher tuition throughout his time at UVA. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:42 AM Author: Wine thriller theatre blood rage Yeah you're right. My mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920694) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:34 AM Author: Canary set is he already in-state? if not, become a resident in that year off, plus do volunteer work that he can put on a resume. later OCI, more money, plus the possibility to save some money during the year off? this seems like an amazing deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14920674) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 10:48 AM Author: beady-eyed orange crackhouse Moving instate would be a crafty angle for the kids who get this offer. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:23 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness This is a good call. I'll tell him to consider it.
He could easily live in Arlington and try to snag some DC gig. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:57 AM Author: vigorous salmon locus knife titcred (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921103) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:02 PM Author: Canary set the difference for instate is only about 5k per year, but if he can find any job that pays more than COL, he could easily save to lower his overall debt even more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921122) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:12 AM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station first law firms were paying their kids not to come
now law schools are doing the same thing
lol |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:41 AM Author: Odious house Can I just say that the fact that this kid is even on the fence about this offer suggests to me that he is fucking retarded and UVa should rescind his admission outright.
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:42 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness He's already two years out of undergrad. Doesn't want to wait too long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921013) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:47 AM Author: Odious house Honestly, even aside from the $45k (which is a lot of money), the pushing things out a year further is a good thing legal market wise.
Not to mention that admission rates are going way down this year so the class competition will be intense. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:50 AM Author: contagious son of senegal The fact that he was prepared to pay sticker at UVA was the first warning sign. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921063) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:52 AM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station yes... UVA should rescind offers from all their admits who are planning to pay sticker... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921073) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:52 AM Author: contagious son of senegal Not saying that, faggot, saying that this guy's obviously a dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921076) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:54 AM Author: cracking sepia persian heaven I don't believe this w/o a link. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921081) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:58 AM Author: Sable Comical Messiness sorry if you weren't called with the 45k offer, dude
Enjoy Umich @ sticker! |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 11:59 AM Author: cracking sepia persian heaven Harvard, actually. And WL at YS so I did pretty well. Laughed at UVA full ride. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921108) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:01 PM Author: Sable Comical Messiness wow, aren't you so cool turning down a full ride at UVA for that HLS prestige! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921118) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:02 PM Author: cracking sepia persian heaven No one buys this flame. UVA can still attract idiots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921123) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:04 PM Author: Sable Comical Messiness it's not about attracting good students, it's about yield rate
Admissions office didn't properly factor in ITE and the tough cycle this year and now they're left with too many students choosing to enroll. |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:05 PM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station hey at elast you didnt turn down the full ride for an HLS waitlist! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921136) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:17 PM Author: Out-of-control aromatic resort factory reset button you "laughed" at it? Why? Are your parents paying for school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921187) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:24 PM Author: cracking sepia persian heaven HLS > UVA gratis, in all circumstances (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921215) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 12:57 PM Author: Histrionic hissy fit Not in Texas where they hate Ivy League graduates and love the fact that UVA is a public school. Also UVA tends to do argulably better in the south and D.C. A full ride at UVA depending on your circumstances / aspirations could own Harvard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14921418) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 4:35 PM Author: walnut foreskin LOL at UVa doing better anywhere than HLS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14922795) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 5:42 PM Author: Out-of-control aromatic resort factory reset button hahahaha. tyft. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14923316) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 6:19 PM Author: Bistre Lascivious Station not if you get ITE-pwnd. and believe me, there are peeps here who got ITE-pwned... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14923663) |
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Date: May 6th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: low-t glassy church pretty fucking SWeet if you ask me. yes, i would do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#14925000) |
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Date: June 1st, 2010 11:38 PM Author: Galvanic location fat ankles According to some doods on TLS, this is now 54k...if they really couldn't find people to take the 45k, that's just frightening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15141067) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:55 PM Author: Territorial puppy friendly grandma wow... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15143907) |
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Date: June 1st, 2010 11:46 PM Author: Fragrant potus indirect expression all this does is screw the 2011 cycle. there's going to be even less seats available and probably just as many applicants. sucks for them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15141126) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2010 12:54 PM Author: razzle-dazzle dead cuckoldry How do you go about getting this offer if you haven't been recruited for it? I have a pretty sweet job lined up in McLean. With 54k, instate, and savings, I bet I could knock 100k off of the cost of school in a single year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15143905) |
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Date: June 2nd, 2010 1:00 PM Author: Racy pearl hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1304316&forum_id=2#15143957) |
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Date: June 13th, 2010 3:41 PM Author: narrow-minded dilemma legend I had this offer way back when I was applying in the early 2000's. Northwestern offered me 35k + living stipend to put off law school for a year to get work experience.
I called them and asked what would count, they said anything. I asked whether playing poker would count, they said they would like to see something more "professional." |