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i don't like the idea of teens being sentenced to death.
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:37 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary i've noticed that states like texas and florida have no problem sentencing 18-19 year olds to death. i feel this is really wrong and i don't think they should be treated the same way as someone well into adulthood (a 30 year old).
most 18-19 year old dudes still have the mentality of a kid while a 30 year old is well into adulthood, should 100% know better, and should be able to analyze the risks involved and long term outcome beforehand. |
Date: June 24th, 2011 5:38 AM Author: drab knife depends on the crime. really brutal, remorseless shit is hardly something to pity convicts for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331858) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:39 AM Author: olive field mother § 19.03. CAPITAL MURDER. (a) A person commits an offense if the person commits murder as defined under Section 19.02(b)(1) and: (1) the person murders a peace officer or fireman who is acting in the lawful discharge of an official duty and who the person knows is a peace officer or fireman; (2) the person intentionally commits the murder in the course of committing or attempting to commit kidnapping, burglary, robbery, aggravated sexual assault, arson, obstruction or retaliation, or terroristic threat under Section 22.07(a)(1), (3), (4), (5), or (6); (3) the person commits the murder for remuneration or the promise of remuneration or employs another to commit the murder for remuneration or the promise of remuneration; (4) the person commits the murder while escaping or attempting to escape from a penal institution; (5) the person, while incarcerated in a penal institution, murders another: (A) who is employed in the operation of the penal institution; or (B) with the intent to establish, maintain, or participate in a combination or in the profits of a combination; (6) the person: (A) while incarcerated for an offense under this section or Section 19.02, murders another; or (B) while serving a sentence of life imprisonment or a term of 99 years for an offense under Section 20.04, 22.021, or 29.03, murders another; (7) the person murders more than one person: (A) during the same criminal transaction; or (B) during different criminal transactions but the murders are committed pursuant to the same scheme or course of conduct; (8) the person murders an individual under six years of age; or (9) the person murders another person in retaliation for or on account of the service or status of the other person as a judge or justice of the supreme court, the court of criminal appeals, a court of appeals, a district court, a criminal district court, a constitutional county court, a statutory county court, a justice court, or a municipal court. (b) An offense under this section is a capital felony. (c) If the jury or, when authorized by law, the judge does not find beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty of an offense under this section, he may be convicted of murder or of any other lesser included offense. |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:43 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary i'm not saying there should be no punishment at all; they absolutely should be punished. however, i find myself feeling really bad for these 18 year old dudes (who are often poor and from broken homes) who made one really stupid mistake and are now on death row. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331863) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:44 AM Author: olive field mother They are adults and committed a big boy crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331864) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:46 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary as a guy in my late 20s, i totally don't consider an 18 year old an adult. i know a few now and it's like talking to a little kid most of the time.
in my book, true adulthood doesn't start until around 21-22 (yea, i realize one is legally considered an adult at 18, but let's be real here..). |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:50 AM Author: olive field mother Look at the requirements for capital murder. They all have a premeditated or ridiculously brutal and callous aspect. You should know right from wrong at 5. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331875) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:53 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary i'm not saying these guys don't know right from wrong. i'm saying that at that age, i doubt most people think long term and really think about the consequences of their actions like a much older adult would. there's just a huge difference in maturity; so huge that teens shouldn't be lumped in with much older offenders when it comes to sentencing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331882) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:00 AM Author: drab knife why should we care if they "don't think about the consequences?"
part of the role of justice is punitive. it is meant to bring suffering down upon the guilty.
the fact that the guilty were too fucking impatient to think about their actions is a character flaw they can work on correcting during their time on death row.
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:45 AM Author: drab knife they are free to avoid this fate by refraining from the commission of brutal murders - something that almost all of their peers manage to do, in any case.
also, define "one stupid mistake."
because it seems like a lot of these murders are committed with illegally-possessed firearms. wouldn't possessing an illegal firearm already be a stupid mistake?
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:46 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary okay, so give them a 30-40 year sentence, not death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331868) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:47 AM Author: drab knife we owe society the assurance that they will never have occasion to kill again outside of prison, which means an appropriate minimum sentence is life without the possibility of parole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331870) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:49 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary okay, so then sentence them to 30-40 years and allow them to prove that they have changed and are no longer interested in a life of crime. if they are able to prove this, they shall be paroled and set free. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331872) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:50 AM Author: drab knife i'm not satisfied with that sort of "proof." and even if it could be assured, 40 years is hardly enough time to repent for a brutal murder. they need the remainder of their lives to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331876) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:51 AM Author: olive field mother (Willie Horton) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331877) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 10:05 AM Author: Umber shrine lol one stupid mistake? what about the person who is rotting in the ground as a result of their "stupid mistake." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18332266) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:39 AM Author: olive field mother Texas sentenced 17 year olds to death until SCOTUS bitchasses got sand in their vag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331859) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:52 AM Author: Cerebral gold azn hospital I'd rather be put to death than spend life in prison. The only objection i have against the death penalty is the appeals process is so fucking costly to tax payers. If we could figure out a way to streamline the process I would be pro-death penalty. Unfortunately this isn't the current reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331881) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:53 AM Author: Kink-friendly autistic brunch THANKS OBAMA! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331883) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 5:57 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331895) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:00 AM Author: olive field mother Brutally rapes and murders a white female and you feel pity, pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331898) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:04 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary he was a bad example. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331907) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:00 AM Author: Cerebral gold azn hospital That dude is closer to a wild animal than a human (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331899) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:01 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary yea, bad example lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331902) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:10 AM Author: Cerebral gold azn hospital I used to be pretty anti-death penalty until i clerked at a US Attorney's office 1L summer, some of the people they sent away for life in federal prison had zero remorse for brutal crimes, almost as if they were preparing for their new life in prison and were going to make the best of it. I saw a murderer wink at his victim's mother 2 seconds after his guilty verdict was read. Some serious scumbags need to be brutally beaten to death IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331914) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:02 AM Author: drab knife he had plenty of chances. this is america, land of opportunity. this isn't central africa where you might have to join a child-soldier militia at age nine and kill your own parents to prove your loyalty to the field commander. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331905) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:01 AM Author: diverse sick dopamine range they are fully culpable for anything they did to warrant a death penalty. we aren't talking something like forgetting to take the trash out. pretty sure 18 yr olds fully understand brutally murdering someone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331903) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:07 AM Author: painfully honest sanctuary here's a better example:
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/olsenchristian.htm |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:10 AM Author: drab knife so he bashed some defenseless WOMAN'S head with a metal bar (after illegally breaking into her house, mind you) with such apelike ferocity that she DIED?
you need a true borderline case, like one drug-dealer shooting another because he thought that the rival dealer was reaching for a firearm.
cases where a dude kills a chick in her own house probably aren't going to score very well in the "sympathy" category. |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 6:11 AM Author: olive field mother Murder during a home invasion isn't a poor split second decision. It's a planned event and there are few things more terrifying than being murdered during a home invasion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18331915) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 10:07 AM Author: Umber shrine that poor teenager, society made him commit the tragic mistake of breaking into a womans house and smashing her head in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18332276) |
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Date: June 24th, 2011 10:27 AM Author: pontificating cracking dingle berry den Newborn babbies are sentenced to death just for being born, my main man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1683986&forum_id=2#18332368) |