"Hapas male often have trouble when they become teenagers. In fact, asian women that married white men did so because they preferred white men and even though there is nothing wrong with it, it still creates a problem because an hapa male is still an asian male in our society, especially in the eyes of white people.

Growing up as a hapa male, you understand that your mother is like those asian american women going for white men and your dad, well, a white man having a yellow fever. Therefore, being a hapa male is often being a contradiction in the sense that you are exactly what your parents were against: an asian men.

White man with yellow fever: I love asian women and I’m glad there are asian women like your mother that like better us white men than you asian men.

Hapa male: I guess you’re right."

From a genetic point of view, it's worth pointing out that because the Y chromosome is a truncated chromosome, male children will objectively inherit more genetic material from their mothers. So it's not unexpected that male children of AGWWG's tend to be more "Asian" looking versus any other type of hapa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484553)

-Letting it be known that you did cool things like party in college until you get black out drunk: check.

-Letting it be known that you're so alpha and attractive that even tall gay guys hit on you when they think they might be able to take advantage: check.

Gee, I wonder who the author of this post is?

CSB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485673)

the genetic part is 100% true. the Y chromosome is incomplete, so a male AGWWG hapa will objectively have more Asian phenotypes than the other three types of possible Asian-white mixed children. a male WGWAG hapa in contrast will have the least. And yes, this is rather ironic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484671)

"Look sometimes it seems like I’m personalizing my attacks on my parents too much. And maybe thats not fair. IDK it depends how pissed off I am. Look my dad isn’t a stereotypical Asiaphile. And they actually met through mutual friends since they were both single. Thats the way “normal” couples meet. But still when you understand just how degrading WM/Af is to Asian men, you see it hurts as a Hapa male to be born to even the best of WM/AF."

In general, for a lot of things, why it happens doesn't really negate the end result. And objectively speaking, the end result of AGWWG couples, regardless of how they came to be, in a racialized America, within the context of existing IR dating disparities, is the perpetuation of white privilege, and the Asian (male) underclass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484749)

and, to be honest, the idea that having mixed-race children *perpetuates* white privilege is just insanely suspect. interbreeding is probably one of the best strategies for the reduction of racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484890)

This was addressed in the blog as well,

"The thing is when WM/AF is confronted, the first line of defense is ignorance. They say well its just an accident, we’re colorblind, the mystery of romance. And this randomness defense, while the most disingenuous and dishonest, is the one I can tolerate the most since at least it contains no explicit attack on Asian males. I would LIKE to think my parents fall into this category, even though I’m highly skeptical of how much it applies in general. Once confronted by reality, statistics and the brute fact that white men get Asian women, but Asian men don’t get white women. Well, the fallback position is well maybe Asian men don’t want white women, or are too shy. And thats where it begins. Thats where the WM/AF defense degenerates into a fullscale attack on Asian men. Where the virtues of Asian women as submissive China dolls are praised, and white men are the knights in shining honor, both more masculine than the dweeby Asian wimps, yet at the same time so much more sensitive, emotional and romantic. So yeah once you force WM/AF into the 2nd line of defense, it quickly bases its whole justification on Asian-male bashing. In some ways the attempted justification of WM/Af pisses me off more than WM/Af itself. But in the end they HAVE TO fall back to that line, because the statistical imbalance is just so overwhelming that random love just won’t cut it."

"and, to be honest, the idea that having mixed-race children *perpetuates* white privilege is just insanely suspect. interbreeding is probably one of the best strategies for the reduction of racism."

Visit the Philippines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484959)

there's no need for a fallback position. his entire argument is a strawman. i don't deny that what he's observing is a general trend of some sort; it's just that he is (and you are) asserting that the general trend justifies very harsh and *moral* judgment of individual cases. this is just never true and is itself the worst kind of bigotry (no offense, i consider you a friend).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484985)

it's no doubt very conflicting especially in individual cases. And it's actually the cases of Asian women who are not just straight up racist, who are actually very quality individuals, but who end up with whites guys anyways that perhaps leave the strongest impressions on me at least. And it's not really anger as much as a dull pain of failing that it evokes in me as a response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485092)

i recognize what you are arguing, free love etc., however, i'm also recognizing that the personal is also political, and in this case, a personal choice, inadvertently or not, perpetuates two extremely ugly social institutions.

i never once said that anyone should forego his or her right to free love for political reasons. i don't hold that opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485131)

Please explain how AGWWG is POLITICAL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485456)

by Carol Hanisch

February, 1969

For this paper I want to stick pretty close to an aspect of the Left debate commonly talked about—namely “therapy” vs. “therapy and politics.” Another name for it is “personal” vs. “political” and it has other names, I suspect, as it has developed across the country. I haven’t gotten over to visit the New Orleans group yet, but I have been participating in groups in New York and Gainesville for more than a year. Both of these groups have been called “therapy” and “personal” groups by women who consider themselves “more political.” So I must speak about so-called therapy groups from my own experience.

The very word “therapy” is obviously a misnomer if carried to its logical conclusion. Therapy assumes that someone is sick and that there is a cure, e.g., a personal solution. I am greatly offended that I or any other woman is thought to need therapy in the first place. Women are messed over, not messed up! We need to change the objective conditions, not adjust to them. Therapy is adjusting to your bad personal alternative.

We have not done much trying to solve immediate personal problems of women in the group. We’ve mostly picked topics by two methods: In a small group it is possible for us to take turns bringing questions to the meeting (like, Which do/did you prefer, a girl or a boy baby or no children, and why? What happens to your relationship if your man makes more money than you? Less than you?). Then we go around the room answering the questions from our personal experiences. Everybody talks that way. At the end of the meeting we try to sum up and generalize from what’s been said and make connections.

I believe at this point, and maybe for a long time to come, that these analytical sessions are a form of political action. I do not go to these sessions because I need or want to talk about my ”personal problems.” In fact, I would rather not. As a movement woman, I’ve been pressured to be strong, selfless, other-oriented, sacrificing, and in general pretty much in control of my own life. To admit to the problems in my life is to be deemed weak. So I want to be a strong woman, in movement terms, and not admit I have any real problems that I can’t find a personal solution to (except those directly related to the capitalist system). It is at this point a political action to tell it like it is, to say what I really believe about my life instead of what I’ve always been told to say.

So the reason I participate in these meetings is not to solve any personal problem. One of the first things we discover in these groups is that personal problems are political problems. There are no personal solutions at this time. There is only collective action for a collective solution. I went, and I continue to go to these meetings because I have gotten a political understanding which all my reading, all my “political discussions,” all my “political action,” all my four-odd years in the movement never gave me. I’ve been forced to take off the rose colored glasses and face the awful truth about how grim my life really is as a woman. I am getting a gut understanding of everything as opposed to the esoteric, intellectual understandings and noblesse oblige feelings I had in “other people’s” struggles.

This is not to deny that these sessions have at least two aspects that are therapeutic. I prefer to call even this aspect “political therapy” as opposed to personal therapy. The most important is getting rid of self-blame. Can you imagine what would happen if women, blacks, and workers (my definition of worker is anyone who has to work for a living as opposed to those who don’t. All women are workers) would-stop blaming ourselves for our sad situations? It seems to me the whole country needs that kind of political therapy. That is what the black movement is doing in its own way. We shall do it in ours. We are only starting to stop blaming ourselves. We also feel like we are thinking for ourselves for the first time in our lives. As the cartoon in Lilith puts it, “I’m changing. My mind is growing muscles.” Those who believe that Marx, Lenin, Engels, Mao, and Ho have the only and last “good word” on the subject and that women have nothing more to add will, of course, find these groups a waste of time.

The groups that I have been in have also not gotten into “alternative life-styles” or what it means to be a “liberated” woman. We came early to the conclusion that all alternatives are bad under present conditions. Whether we live with or without a man, communally or in couples or alone, are married or unmarried, live with other women, go for free love, celibacy or lesbianism, or any combination, there are only good and bad things about each bad situation. There is no “more liberated” way; there are only bad alternatives.

This is part of one of the most important theories we are beginning to articulate. We call it “the pro-woman line.” What it says basically is that women are really neat people. The bad things that are said about us as women are either myths (women are stupid), tactics women use to struggle individually (women are bitches), or are actually things that we want to carry into the new society and want men to share too (women are sensitive, emotional). Women as oppressed people act out of necessity (act dumb in the presence of men), not out of choice. Women have developed great shuffling techniques for their own survival (look pretty and giggle to get or keep a job or man) which should be used when necessary until such time as the power of unity can take its place. Women are smart not to struggle alone (as are blacks and workers). It is no worse to be in the home than in the rat race of the job world. They are both bad. Women, like blacks, workers, must stop blaming ourselves for our “failures.”

It took us some ten months to get to the point where we could articulate these things and relate them to the lives of every woman. It’s important from the standpoint of what kind of action we are going to do. When our group first started, going by majority opinion, we would have been out in the streets demonstrating against marriage, against having babies, for free love, against women who wore makeup, against housewives, for equality without recognition of biological differences, and god knows what else. Now we see all these things as what we call “personal solutionary.” Many of the actions taken by “action” groups have been along these lines. The women who did the anti-woman stuff at the Miss America Pageant were the ones who were screaming for action without theory. The members of one group want to set up a private daycare center without any real analysis of what could be done to make it better for little girls, much less any analysis of how that center hastens the revolution.

That is not to say, of course, that we shouldn’t do action. There may be some very good reasons why women in the group don’t want to do anything at the moment. One reason that I often have is that this thing is so important to me that I want to be very sure that we’re doing it the best way we know how, and that it is a “right” action that I feel sure about. I refuse to go out and “produce” for the movement. We had a lot of conflict in our New York group about whether or not to do action. When the Miss America Protest was proposed, there was no question but that we wanted to do, it. I think it was because we all saw how it related to our lives. We felt it was a good action. There were things wrong with the action, but the basic idea was there.

This has been my experience in groups that are accused of being “therapy” or “personal.” Perhaps certain groups may well be attempting to do therapy. Maybe the answer is not to put down the method of analyzing from personal experiences in favor of immediate action, but to figure out what can be done to make it work. Some of us started to write a handbook about this at one time and never got past the outline. We are working on it again, and hope to have it out in a month at the latest.

It’s true we all need to learn how to better draw conclusions from the experiences and feelings we talk about and how to draw all kinds of connections. Some of us haven’t done a very good job of communicating them to others.

One more thing: I think we must listen to what so-called apolitical women have to say—not so we can do a better job of organizing them but because together we are a mass movement. I think we who work full-time in the movement tend to become very narrow. What is happening now is that when non-movement women disagree with us, we assume it’s because they are “apolitical,” not because there might be something wrong with our thinking. Women have left the movement in droves. The obvious reasons are that we are tired of being sex slaves and doing shitwork for men whose hypocrisy is so blatant in their political stance of liberation for everybody (else). But there is really a lot more to it than that. I can’t quite articulate it yet. I think “apolitical” women are not in the movement for very good reasons, and as long as we say “you have to think like us and live like us to join the charmed circle,” we will fail. What I am trying to say is that there are things in the consciousness of “apolitical” women (I find them very political) that are as valid as any political consciousness we think we have. We should figure out why many women don’t want to do action. Maybe there is something wrong with the action or something wrong with why we are doing the action or maybe the analysis of why the action is necessary is not clear enough in our minds."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485488)

Just do Feminine Mystique, you worthless leftist shitstain. JFC, this kind of bullshit is EXACTLY why I'm not in the liberal wing of the Democratic party. This kind of 1984 redefinition, groupthink, and politicization of the individual is the most festering of all shitpies. Cooley is less TTT than this philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485841)

lol @ "WM/Af" being, by definition, degrading to super study asian men. I know I feel degraded when I see some fat redheaded bitch making out with a beefy black guy at the mall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485441)

Honestly, if my HAPA son ends up like this, I will beat the everloving shit out of him for being such a bitchmade.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485464)

I am, as a Texan ARE cuntry boy, extremely alpha as fuck. My son will learn these behaviors or die trying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485855)

Its bad enough being an Asian-American male watching WM/AF from the outside. Can you imagine being a Hapa male, feeling WM/AF from the INSIDE? Feeling WM/AF inside you? It is a rape. Life is just a long torture and rape for the Hapa male. Hated by all. Asian males hate hapa males too, when they realize they are hapa. But Asian men are right to hate Hapas. When they look at me, all they can see is WM/AF. Can I blame Asian men for hating me, when I hate myself far far far more for the exact same reason? If they knew more about me, they would hate me more. To the white race, I’m just yellow subhuman scum. The best I can do is get on my knees, and constantly advertise my white dad, and beg for a modicum of acceptance. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18484724)

This. I only know a few HAPA doods, and they fucking clean up for being a good balance of elegant and masculine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485482)

WGWAG hapa -> beta father, domineering mother -> gay son HTH

AGWTxG hapa -> alpha father, subservient mother -> Genghis Khan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485870)

Oh right, the Asian guy happens to think that it's totally different and OK when an Asian guy fucks a white girl but not the reverse, that's not conveniently self-serving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18486172)

Do you read angryasianman.com?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485489)

i used to read thefighting44s.com, which was a very militant pro Asian forum, but it sorta died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485538)

I read chinasmack but hated it. I used to follow Angry Asian Man until he became a parody of himself. "Casting of asian instead of Asian American in commercial where Asians more than Asian Americans form the tourist base there is RACIST" my asshold

I have loads of Asian friends, my wife is Asian, my kids will be HAPA, I have lived in Asia, speak multiple Asian languages, and studied a Chinese martial art. I have always considered myself a friend to the AA community, but this is just too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485861)

Some of the poor-meism on Asian-American advancement in the States has become too much. At some point, some of the fault has to come down to the families making it too hard for their kids to assimilate. There was an article posted here a couple months ago hypothesizing that a big reason Asians haven't advanced further in the States is because the families fun for comfortable middle class lives as Drs, lawyers, dentists, nurses, engineers and very few teach the "white values" necessary to succeed in business (networking, being alpha, etc.).

"Just be their bitch, keep your nose to the grindstone, and you'll keep your job and be 'happy' where 'happy' means 'employed at a place your parents' friends will respect you for working at'"

This is the type of shit my son will learn not to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485889)

Not all white values, just some.

A good balance of white alpha values and Asian communitarian values is tcr IMO. Being aware of this going into my child-rearing years, I hope to capitalize on this with my kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485903)

that's why WGWAG spawn is so much better than meek AGWWG spawn.

hapa men raised by asian mothers embrace asian culture and learn to despise the asian fetish, but then come home and see it every day.

WGWAG spawn are taller, squat more and are more likely to WGWAG themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485073)

do you cut yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485088)

http://shanghaishiok.com/2011/05/10/white-man-asian-woman-bias/

the author is obviously a fairly intelligent, and thoughtful Asian woman, who isn't necessarily biased against Asian guys, at least not consciously. however, the fact that she is still with a white dude is just like the collective failing of Asian men everywhere.

I really couldn't give a fuck about Asian women who are actually racist against Asian guys. those people are scum and i'm glad they are weaning themselves from the gene pool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485177)

in the usa, black men also get many more white women than the reverse. since blacks outnumber asians about 4:1 in the usa, this means that there are lots of unattached, pissed off black women out there. there's his opportunity right there. he just needs to learn to like DAT AZZZ (and watch out for the herp)

he'd stop being such a pussy if he did some of this: http://i.imgur.com/YDM17.jpg -- azn niggas swole as FUKKKK brah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485193)

2. WOCWAG

3. Chinese people from the Philippines (the agwwg blogger ITT, Amy Chua, this anti-WGWAG HK blogger Mountain Dood linked to and lol'd at http://whoreship.wordpress.com/2006/08/11/proud-moment-in-abc-history/) are objectively fucked in the head. That is because IRL they really are the very stereotype of "bloodsucking jew" on the local society, so they lash out at everything under the sun.

4. Does anyone really believe more of mommy's exon genes are expressed than daddy's?

5. Way to take the nation-state unit out of the analysis. How many Chinese women with Russian guys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485904)

that's hard medicine to swallow from your own mother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18485941)

Its bad enough being an Asian-American male watching WM/AF from the outside. Can you imagine being a Hapa male, feeling WM/AF from the INSIDE? Feeling WM/AF inside you? It is a rape. Life is just a long torture and rape for the Hapa male. Hated by all. Asian males hate hapa males too, when they realize they are hapa. But Asian men are right to hate Hapas. When they look at me, all they can see is WM/AF. Can I blame Asian men for hating me, when I hate myself far far far more for the exact same reason? If they knew more about me, they would hate me more. To the white race, I’m just yellow subhuman scum. The best I can do is get on my knees, and constantly advertise my white dad, and beg for a modicum of acceptance. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18863828)

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/harvardhapa/members.html

EXECUTIVE BOARD 2011-2012

Katie LowPresident: Katie Low

Class: 2012

Concentration: History of Science

House: Leverett

Ethnicity: ½ Chinese, ½ Caucasian

A native of Philadelphia, Katie Low is a junior in Leverett House. A proud ex-premed, Katie is concentrating in history of science with a focus in medicine and society. Though some may think she spends all her time with Hapas (two hapa-board roommates and a hapa boyfriend), Katie is also an active member of the the Harvard club field hockey team and hopes to test her skills at television writing and production for HUTV this year. In her free time, she loves to bake, watch Arrested Development and search for kitten videos on YouTube.

Alisha RamosVice President: Alisha Ramos

Class: 2012

Concentration: Sociology

House: Leverett

Ethnicity: ½ Korean, ½ Spanish and Dominican

Alisha Ramos is a junior in Leverett House from Washington, D.C. but grew up in Seoul, South Korea as well as the South. She concentrates in Sociology and is most interested in organizational behavior, as well as issues on mixed race and gender. Aside from HAPA, she has served as President and Editor-in-Chief of The Harvard Voice, and has been involved with the Harvard Vestis Council, and the Women's Leadership Project. Fun fact: she is also the Founder of HarvardFML.com (sorry!). This semester she is Assistant Producer of the show Chicago, which is a mashup of the classic and none other than Lady GaGa! She is slightly addicted to the Internet and has probably seen everything there is to see on it; she is especially addicted to fashion and style blogs. She's a self-proclaimed Twitter evangelist and Tumblr enthusiast and her favorite food is pad thai. She hopes to go into non-profit consulting, marketing, or digital media.

Pamela MatsumotoSecretary: Pamela Matsumoto

Class: 2012

Concentration: Organismic and Evolutionary Biology; citation in Spanish

House: Currier

Ethnicity: ½ Japanese, ½ Caucasian

Pamela is a junior living in Currier House. Although she's from Las Vegas, she isn�t a big gambler. She is an active member of Women in Business and works for Sanders Theatre. She is also the Director of Chapter Archives in her sorority, Delta Gamma. In her free time, Pamela loves to wakeboard, watch the Office, and dream of the beautiful West Coast weather.

Eliza NguyenSocial Chair: Eliza Nguyen

Class: 2014

Concentration: Probably MBB track in Neurobiology

Dorm: Weld

Ethnicity: ½ Vietnamese, ½ Caucasian (mostly English)

Eliza is a freshman from Old Lyme, Connecticut, the location of the discovery of Lyme disease. She currently lives in Weld and is excited to be at Harvard spending a gap year working in a Stem Cell Lab. Eliza is on the cycling team at Harvard and enjoys early-morning practices. Eliza is also a member of Harvard�s Undergraduate Global Health forum and is interested in social medicine. Eating ice cream, baking, meeting people (especially HAPAs), and playing/watching sports are some of her favorite activities. Eliza is looking forward to the many new and exciting opportunities Harvard has to offer.

Ashley BachEducation & Political Chair: Ashley Bach

Class: 2014

Concentration: Undecided

Dorm: Matthews

Ethnicity: ½ Japanese, ½ Caucasian (English/German/French)

Ashley was born and raised in San Francisco, CA, and is now a freshman living in Matthews. She�s interested in neurobiology and international relations, and wants to do something related to education and global health after college. In addition to being part of HAPA, Ashley sings in the Radcliffe Choral Society and tutors high school students through RITE (Recent Immigrant Term-time Enrichment). In her spare time she likes to watch Community, House, or Gossip Girl, preferably while eating something dipped in dark chocolate.

Michael CherkasskyFreshman Rep Emeritus: Michael Cherkassky

Class: 2013

Concentration: Undecided

Dorm: Straus

Ethnicity: ½ Chinese, ½ Caucasian

Currently a sophomore in Eliot House concentrating in Statistics, Michael was a HAPA Frosh Rep during his freshman year and still plays an integral role in the organization. Coming from Minnesota, he isn't scared of Cambridge's cold winters. On campus, he is also a member of the Asian American Brotherhood and recently joined the rugby team. In his spare time, Michael enjoys long walks along the Charles River and reruns of Dawson's Creek.

GENERAL MEMBERSHIP

Class of 2011

Yuga Cohler

Alan Ibrahim

Brittney Lind

James Winter

Class of 2012

Ross Ford

Louise Laciny

Caitlin Low

Ingrid Pierre

Jackie Quinn

Stephen Shelton

Class of 2013

Philip de Sa e Silva

Hena Haines

Andrea Henricks

Alma Lafler

Ananda (Ana) Martin-Caughey

George Plummer

Lila Nieves-Lee

Sachi Oshima

Julianne Pelaez

Owen Wurzbacher

Leaha Wynn

Emiko Zumbro

Class of 2014

Sarah Amanullah

James Carey

Zamyla Chan

Samuel Coffin

Hayley Cuccinello

Elizabeth Double

Richard Ebright

Kerry Hammond

Ida Hempel

Jeweliann Houlette

Mai Hunt

Nicole "Nikki" Iacopetti

David Kersen

Christine Maroti

Schuyler Moore

Miranda Ravicz

Jun Shepard

Lauren Verdine

Alex Willis

Madeline Zhu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#18907345)

I honestly think he migrated to xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1701477&forum_id=2#19438088)