Asians also don't have white privilege. White privilege is why whites (generally) care a lot less about college prestige/rankings than Asians.

East Asians are generally very insecure about themselves. They base their value on what college they went to. Whites based their value on how well they network and party.

also, an Asian who goes to a TTT university is basically committing career suicide. Whites have the luxury of going to crappy TTT state schools b/c of white privilege, that is somebody will hire them for a good job, even if it's based on nepotism and or networking, e.g. a fraternity brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029708)

Most whites really don't give a shit about prestige, b/c they know that social skills and getting along w/ people matter more than what school you went to.

Asians think going to Harvard is all that matters. They focus on getting into big name school at the expense of developing their people skills and ability to work w/ others. Honestly, i say this cuz I'm Chinese/Taiwanese myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029723)

Asians have actually committed suicide if they don't get into top universities!!!! Isn't that something fucking wrong w/ Asian culture when you feel so worthless that you couldn't get into a top university that you have to take your own life!!!!

And what pisses me off is a lot of Asians say "too bad so sad. That's just social darwinism at work!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029817)

Yeah, I'm jealous of the number of East Asians having depression and mental health problems b/c of the academic pressure to succeed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029839)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029844)

I'm trying to address the troubling issue of Asians' obsession w/ prestige and how that's damaging the Asian American population. And the problem is, none of you motherfuckers get it b/c you're all in fucking denial. You're all fucking seduced by the "prestige" and think that white girls will suck your cock b/c you have a college degree from Harvard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029853)

Do you think that a white person would have lots of insider information about shady activities Asians from top schools engage in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029751)

The Asians in schools like Gretchen Whitney, San Marino High, Palos Verdes Peninsula, Troy High, University High in Irvine, etc., tend to be much more name school conscious, competitive, and prestige-oriented. Then you have Asians in schools like San Gabriel High, Sunny Hills High, Fountain Valley, La Quinta, who overall tend to be a bit more laid-back, though of course you have your fair share of prestige whore Asians there as well.

There are striver prestige whore Asians it seems even in the WORST schools. Actually, ironically, i see more prestige whore Asians sometimes in high schools that are lower ranked in the API (Academic Performance Index) such as Mark Keppel High, Los Altos High, and even Oakland High. All those schools have terrible academic reputations, yet many Asians there surprisingly go on to very prestigious universities.

My honest tip to prestige whore Asians who would not accept going to a university that is ranked below the Top 20 - 25 at minimum (NYU though seems to be the exception -- NYU is barely Top 30 yet it seems like lots of East Asians aim for that school, in California, NYU seems to be mysteriously be up there w/ the Ivies), it could very well benefit Asians to go to a crappy high school and thrive there academically than go to a top notch high school and end up doing mediocre.

Overall though, SoCal Asians in my opinion are actually more chill than Bay Area/Silicon Valley Asians. The Asians in schools like Monta Vista High, Saratoga High, Henry Gunn High, Mission San Jose High, Lynbrook High, and Lowell High are ridiculous prestige whores. I think they are far more competitive than SoCal Asians.

Nowadays, even top high schools like Stuyvesant High, Bronx High, etc., seem to be sending more Asians to mediocre state schools nowadays than the Ivies. Though I think that the CUNY Honors program has helped actually lure quite a few Asians away from the Ivies and NYU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19032230)

"Mediocre" Asian? HA! If I were white, I'd be on the top of the world based on my credentials. But you're probably right, an Asian who "only goes" to a Top 25 to 50 university IS mediocre b/c there are far too many Asians who went to Ivies and shit.

Unfortunately, b/c of this fucking model minority bullshit, I'm never good enough. My own standards? I can't have my own standards when I'm constantly compared to some ridiculous high achieving Asian who went to Harvard undergraduate, law, and medical. It's fucking ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029880)

Probably lots of Asians w/ hardass Asian tiger parents, who didn't "live up to expectations", are like me. And there are lots of us out there, living in silence.

I just happen to be more vocal, not unlike Wesley Yang. I guess i'm xoxo's answer to Wesley Yang.

I've always said that for every one "model minority" success story of the Asian getting into Harvard and becoming a doctor/lawyer/investment banker, whatever, there's ten of us who are coping w/ falling below the unreasonable expectations of hardass Asian tiger parents.

I think my experience (as well as a lot of Asians) is akin to a lot of athletes in high school or college who were groomed and expected to be superstars, but never made it and are now living "mediocre" lives are in drug tailspins and/or seeing therapy.

I'm probably better off than lots of Asians though. I know Chinese and Koreans from fucking Ivies who become addicted to prescription pills. Knew a VERY pretty Korean girl who went to NYU Stern, one night, she OD'ed on pills, was found unconscious by her roommate. She was literally a few second away from death...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029991)

Asian culture has poisoned many young people. Why does South korea have the youngest suicide rates among young people? How many Asians kill themselves b/c they feel worthless for not getting top high scores or getting into top universities?

I think Asian culture needs to be reexamined in light of these disturbing issues.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030073)

it's callous to say, but higher suicide and depression rates are the price to pay for asian level achievement. nothing around it, and i think it's a net plus overall. at least they're not being niggers, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030226)

Asian culture is all about the collective whereas Western culture is about the individual.

If mediocre Asian students have to die and choose to kill themselves, that's the price we pay for high level achievement in Asian culture. It's more or less accepted, this mentality.

Basically, Asians are just practicing what social darwinism is all about. Separate the wheat from the chaff. A few Asians must die if society is to thrive and advance for the greater good of Asians. The price we pay for an affluent, highly educated society w/ Asians is that some Asians, the bottom feeders and mediocre ones, need to die, and since murder is not legal, they are "encouraged" to simply kill themselves cuz it's the "honorable" thing to do to save face.

And yeah, you're right. How many Americans die from drug overdoses, murders, etc.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030245)

this is not social darwinism, no one is saying the weak should go die. it is simply a fact that with higher expectations more people will crack, but it's definitely not good when this happens and i do not want to cull the weak to make the race stronger or any of that fantasy you're reading into this.

and what is this about collective culture? i for one do not think collectively, and i don't think asians really do either, if you would put down your cheap stereotypes for a second. for many asians, me including, this kind of achievement is good for the individual. it's what i value and i believe large parts of it are beneficial for ME.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030263)

Some striver Asians call this "social darwinism." Let the weak die so that the Asians can grow stronger as a race.

You know who else thought about that? Some guy named Adolf Hitler.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030288)

What pisses me off is what's great to a white person is mediocre to an Asian. White parents would fucking celebrate if their kid got into a Top 50 university, but if an Asian gets into "only" a Top 50 university, they are constantly shamed by their hardass Tiger mom asian parents b/c they were "mediocre" and not good enough compared to next door neighbor Johnny Lee who got into Yale on a full scholarship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029889)

The whole "Tiger Mom" crap has poisoned many Asian Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030000)

Definitely the model minority pressure plays a part in us feeling the depression.

The model minority myth is our version of girls who feel depressed over watching constant images of super-skinny models in the media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030057)

For Hispanics, most Hispanic families are happy if their child gets into a fucking Cal State school. They would have a goddamn fiesta over their child going to Cal State Los Angeles.

For Asians, they get into "only" a Top 50 or Top 40 university, they are seen as a total disgrace and a shame to not just their families, but to Asians everywhere.

of course there are exceptions. i won't deny that yes, even Blacks have their prestige whores, but the number of Blacks who care about getting into Ivies are far far far fewer than East Asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030113)

it's not that asians emphasize academics too much per se, the problem is they do it at the expense of other aspects of life that are just as if not more important for living a good life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030236)

I'm saying Asians should focus less on academics for the sake of college prestige, that is get their heads out their asses about "I have to go to Ivy League or I'll bring dishonor to my family" and focus on other aspects of life, such as building character, learning to work w/ others, being well-rounded, etc.

I'd rather an Asian go to a mediocre state school but be more well-rounded than a one-dimensional nerdy Asian go to Harvard. Unfortunately, the media (and Asian parents themselves) make it as though only one-dimensional Asian nerds from Harvard can succeed in life.

It's a double whammy for Asians. The model minority image was propagated by the media. The model minority constantly bombards images of "highly successful" Asians who graduated from Ivy League universities and have six or seven figure white collar professional jobs. Asian parents see that and keep telling their kids "son, you go to Harvard or you be failure and bring dishonor to family!" So the academic pressure to succeed is brought upon Asians by both the media /society and their own parents (and Asian culture itself).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030276)

because, ultimately, the real tragedy is not the 0.05% or so more asians who will commit suicide over this stuff, but the 50% or more who will not lead fulfilling lives because of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030286)

I think that there's WAY too much shame in Asian culture if you do not get into the best schools.

It's ridiculous b/c I myself have seen Asians throw into hissy fits over not getting into an Ivy League university and thinking about his life being doomed to failure. Actually, when i was in high school, a black person (yes you read that right), got into Harvard. A couple of Chinese students were so bitter and resentful of him they actually spraypainted and vandalized his car, calling him "n***er baby of affirmative action." Both were caught, got criminal charges, and were eventually taken out of school (they left before they could get expelled!)

That's the attitude w/ some of these Asian "assholes." As I stated in an earlier post, Asians get into fistfights over this stupid petty shit about who got into the Ivy League.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030294)

what, exactly, should they emphasize instead? and if you read xoxo long enough, the question becomes what else CAN they do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030305)

It just so happens that Asians who are the model minority (Ivy League educated, highly paid white collar professional, etc.) tend to be the media spotlight most often.

It's not unlike the criminal justice system. There are probably more whites than blacks in the criminal justice system, but the vast majority of criminals who receive attention in the media are black. The white criminals generally get ignored more. Likewise, the "average" Asians, the ones w/o the exceptional Ivy League credentials, simply get ignored by the media in favor of the Asians w/ more impressive academic credentials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030319)

The rest of the Asians on Survivor lacked Yul's academic credentials and prestige, and all of them were pretty much ignored by the media.

If Yul Kwon was "average", say he went to a state university, would he have received so much attention in the media? you take away all of Yul's academic credentials. He's still a well-spoken person, but say he's only a University of Maryland graduate, would he have gained a lot of press in the media?

NO! B/c high achieving model minority Asians SELL! It's their version of the sex symbol. An average Asian from an average school who speaks perfect English but is otherwise average is not worth the media's time or attention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030329)

because, fact is, leading your definition of an "average life" SUCKS for an asian in america. there is no denying this, and it's completely understandable to me why asians would want more, even if they only have, or are only given, one dimension along which to achieve.

if you want to analogize with blacks and crime, i hate to break it to you, but black stereotypes of being criminals are SO true, the disproportionate percentages are SHOCKING. i'm saying the same is likely true with regards elements of the model minority myth: many asians, for reasons that are natural or not, biological or not, are more inclined and suited to the academic and traditional achievement role. it's not all the media's doing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030348)

Whites can go into sales for example. But Asians generally frown upon that field. Whites can go into vocational fields, like electrician, computer tech, etc., but for some reason, that's the kiss of death for Asians.

Asians are obsessed w/ prestige b/c they are insecure about themselves. Why don't we see more Asians go into more vocational fields, like electrician, mechanic, etc.? Why haven't more Asians thought about that? Are they that preoccupied w/ academic prestige?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030370)

I'M TRYING TO GET ASIANS TO CHANGE THIS PRESTIGE-OBSESSED MINDSET!

But i also acknowledge that whites simply can't accept an Asian who's NOT an Ivy League educated nerd. White americans are such hypocrites; they bitch about East Asians dominating and taking over the Ivy League and prestigious universities, yet the Asians who do NOT go to Ivy League or prestigious universities are treated like second class citizens. What the fuck does America want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030420)

and your characterization of the issue as whites simply not "accepting" asians is shallow and a vulgarization of what's going on. it's much deeper than that, much more involved than some white dude wagging his finger and making taunts or something like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030456)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030500)

the striver who has an empty life other than achievement for achievement's sake, yeah, they are annoying and obnoxious, but very often they didn't choose to be this way. for asians in america, this is the general case, and where you put the blame on asians for incessant striving, i see it that they are the victims deprived of life's simple pleasures so they have no choice to do anything but.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030547)

Why Asians are obsessed w/ prestige comes down to this very simple summary:

1.) Asian culture emphasizes academic achievement above all else. Generally, going to a vocational field is a sign of failure.

2.) Hardass Tiger Asian mothers impose that belief on their children.

3.) Discrimination against Asians in America.

4.) The Model Minority Image, ironically imposed by the very people who discriminate against Asians. The same white people who emasculate Asians often "praise" them for being the model minority and essentially tell Asians "you want us to respect you, you gotta go Ivy or you might as well go on welfare."

5.) The Job Market. Employers discriminate against Asians who went to "subpar" (e.g., non-prestigious universities). Whites and other minorities can get their foot in the door and at least have a CHANCE to interview even if they didn't go to the best schools. Asians almost have to go to top universities by choice b/c if you look at the job market, Asians who didn't go to Top (e.g., Top 20 - 25 universities) are essentially shut out. Perfect example is Silicon Valley. When I worked in Silicon Valley, virtually all the Asians in the decent to top firms went to the following schools: Stanford, MIT, the Ivy League, CalTech, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, Duke, University of Michigan, NYU. That's it. Even Asian grads from UCLA and USC face stiff competition for good jobs in Silicon Valley. There may be an occassional Asian working in Silicon Valley who went to UC Davis, Santa Clara, or even San Jose State, but the Asians from prestigious universities far outnumber the Asians going to non-prestigious ones. Whites (and I include Indians in this one) working at top Silicon Valley firms went to a much greater variety of colleges. True, there's a good number who went to schools like Stanford and Berkeley, but I noticed that the educational backgrounds of whites and Indians in Silicon Valley are much more diverse. You have whites and Indians who went to universities that ran the gamut from Stanford and Berkeley to lots from San Jose State and other legitimate TTTs.

6.) The Economy. See #5. Again, same logic. B/c it's a much rougher economy and fewer jobs are available, more and more Asians are competing for the few prestigious jobs, so going to an Ivy is even more critical if you're Asian.

Simple as that.

And yes, we Asians are a neurotic bunch. I certainly am. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030594)

Funny enough, if anything, vocational/trade school is more geared towards Blacks and Latinos than Asians. Americans expect trade and vocational school to have other minorities, NOT Asians.

in Los Angeles area high school, it's a dirty secret that Latinos and blacks are pushed and "encouraged" to go to vocational schools, while East Asians are "encouraged" to thrive and aim for prestigious universities. It's definitely discrimination, we're basically saying that blacks and latinos are NEVER capable of academic achievement while we're basically saying that East Asians are worthless if they are not academic achievers.

Actually, this was a very common practice in North Hollywood High School. The Asians were treated like rock stars there, and got to attend all the college prep courses and have fancy classrooms, while the blacks and Latinos were stuck in dirty classrooms, working w/ outdated technology, w/ teachers who don't give a fuck.

but perhaps there are East Asians who are happier and have more aptitude if they go to vocational and trade school! And there are highly intelligent Latinos and Blacks who are very intelligent and would thrive academically but are the product of a bad environment!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030452)

But hell, every once in a while, you even have Blacks who are obsessed w/ college prestige.

Even people themselves who truly buy into the model minority myth will tell you, "but we know it doesn't apply to every Asian!!!!! We KNOW there are dumb Asians out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

There are certainly smart Blacks out there and like I said, I knew a few (very VERY few, but yes, you'd be surprised that they exist) Blacks who themselves only wanted to go to top name universities. Funny enough, their reasons aren't all that much different from East Asians -- Blacks think that whites will respect them more if they have a degree from Harvard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030039)

(sheltered upper class kid)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030119)

Asians think that if they don't get into at least, I dunno, NYU(?), their lives are over. Seriously.

I agree, it's ridiculous. For many Asians, getting into a top university is basically the highlight of their lives. They reach the peak of their lives getting into Harvard and getting some job in a prestigious investment bank. after going through the 80-100 hour work week grind, they get laid off in a few years, and their lives go downhill from there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030127)

LOLLLLLL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030373)

When I was a senior at high school, Asians always cracked at USC being the "University of Stupid Chinese." USC was barely Top 50 when I was a freshman there, which probably shows my age!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19029898)

Your parents and grandparents have worked hard to lay the foundations for you, and you squandered their blood, sweat, and tears.

You should be put to work on the railroad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030269)

B/c unfortunately, Asian culture frowns upon it. Asian culture is more about prestige.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030398)

Wait a minute, you're already dealing w/ shit all day as an Asian anyway! LOL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030780)

in Los Angeles area high schools, it's a dirty secret that Latinos and blacks are pushed and "encouraged" to go to vocational schools, while East Asians are "encouraged" to thrive and aim for prestigious universities. It's definitely discrimination, we're basically saying that blacks and latinos are NEVER capable of academic achievement while we're basically saying that East Asians are worthless if they are not academic achievers.

Actually, this was a very common practice in North Hollywood High School. The Asians were treated like rock stars there, and got to attend all the college prep courses and have fancy classrooms, working w/ state-of-the-art technology, while the blacks and Latinos were stuck in dirty classrooms, working w/ outdated technology, w/ teachers who don't give a fuck.

but perhaps there are East Asians who are happier and have more aptitude if they go to vocational and trade school! And there are highly intelligent Latinos and Blacks who are very intelligent and would thrive academically but are the product of a bad environment!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030472)

Why Asians are obsessed w/ prestige comes down to this very simple summary:

1.) Asian culture emphasizes academic achievement above all else. Generally, going to a vocational field is a sign of failure.

2.) Hardass Tiger Asian mothers impose that belief on their children.

3.) Discrimination against Asians in America.

4.) The Model Minority Image, ironically imposed by the very people who discriminate against Asians. The same white people who emasculate Asians often "praise" them for being the model minority and essentially tell Asians "you want us to respect you, you gotta go Ivy or you might as well go on welfare."

5.) The Job Market. Employers discriminate against Asians who went to "subpar" (e.g., non-prestigious universities). Whites and other minorities can get their foot in the door and at least have a CHANCE to interview even if they didn't go to the best schools. Asians almost have to go to top universities by choice b/c if you look at the job market, Asians who didn't go to Top (e.g., Top 20 - 25 universities) are essentially shut out. Perfect example is Silicon Valley. When I worked in Silicon Valley, virtually all the Asians in the decent to top firms went to the following schools: Stanford, MIT, the Ivy League, CalTech, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, Duke, University of Michigan, NYU. That's it. Even Asian grads from UCLA and USC face stiff competition for good jobs in Silicon Valley. There may be an occassional Asian working in Silicon Valley who went to UC Davis, Santa Clara, or even San Jose State, but the Asians from prestigious universities far outnumber the Asians going to non-prestigious ones. Whites (and I include Indians in this one) working at top Silicon Valley firms went to a much greater variety of colleges. True, there's a good number who went to schools like Stanford and Berkeley, but I noticed that the educational backgrounds of whites and Indians in Silicon Valley are much more diverse. You have whites and Indians who went to universities that ran the gamut from Stanford and Berkeley to lots from San Jose State and other legitimate TTTs.

6.) The Economy. See #5. Again, same logic. B/c it's a much rougher economy and fewer jobs are available, more and more Asians are competing for the few prestigious jobs, so going to an Ivy is even more critical if you're Asian.

Simple as that.

And yes, we Asians are a neurotic bunch. I certainly am. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030667)

Asian Indians seem to have it a little bit easier than whites. I see lots of Asian Indians in high level positions in Wall Street firms who only graduated from TTT schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19030733)

Despite the fact that autoadmit appears to be dying in a post babyboom era I can still appreciate its candor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19031059)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19031247)

/thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19031627)

Although NYU is admittedly a good school, most Asians I talk to act as though NYU is on par w/ Columbia and the Ivies.

Case in point, I know several Asians who got accepted to UC Irvine and got nice scholarship money. They refused to go to Irvine, UC Irvine for some reason has a bad reputation amongst Asians, e.g. the "University of Chinese Idiots" or "University of Chinese Ingrates" on top of the famous University of Chinese Immigrants moniker.

It surprises me how many Chinese and Koreans I know are willing to pay $40,000 full tuition just for the "privilege" of attending NYU, even though if they were smart, they would simply suck it up, let their egos go, and attend say UC Irvine for a much cheaper price. And I'm not even talking about Stern, just regular NYU.

Is NYU really that worth it that one should put themselves in debt of $160,000 in addition to all the traveling expenses? Asians seem to really think so, many are under the illusion that an NYU degree somehow automatically opens more doors. Again, that's NYU, not Stern.

you see, that's why I think this prestige whoredom amongst East Asians is messed up. They're breaking their parents' bank accounts just to go to a school that's "slightly more" prestigious than UC Irvine or UCSD.

Another case in point is UC Irvine versus UCSD. Yes, UCSD is ranked marginally higher than Irvine, but the Asians in UCSD act as though UC San Diego is on par w/ Berkeley while UC Irvine is nothing more than a community college full of second tier Chinese who couldn't hack it in a "real" university. It's ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19032235)

Ironically, Fordham has more blacks and Hispanics than Asians!

Of course, Fordham is private and probably considered a TTT and one can argue that a very good quality of East Asians is that generally, they avoid TTT privates like the plagues (a few exceptions though, Drexel U in Philadelphia is a private TTT but it has a fairly sizable East Asian population)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1766063&forum_id=2#19040348)