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prop trading at DRW, SIG, Jane Street

equivalent to Morgan Stanley/GS Investment banking in terms ...
hairless tantric laser beams
  11/04/11
in terms of pure prestige, no. but they're more selective, a...
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/04/11
tyty. Can you explain a bit about the exit options they have...
hairless tantric laser beams
  11/04/11
they can go work at other organizations doing quant trading ...
Green Vivacious Death Wish
  11/04/11
most prop traders at these top firms stay. part of this is t...
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/04/11
A friend of mine has some interviews.
hairless tantric laser beams
  11/04/11
i'd say working at jane street > industry prestige (maybe...
Green Vivacious Death Wish
  11/04/11
if you're a hardcore math/cs geek who is fascinated by algo ...
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/04/11
there's also some extreme satisfaction in (1) not having cli...
Green Vivacious Death Wish
  11/04/11
how do you know getco guys are making 500k/year at age 26?
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/04/11
guys at 26 have often been there long enough to be playing w...
Green Vivacious Death Wish
  11/04/11
ok, that makes sense. i know that base at citadel coming str...
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/05/11
DB. You will have way more exit options than prop trading.
cruel-hearted hairy legs
  11/04/11
Hopefully I won't be too old when I re-apply next year at ag...
cruel-hearted hairy legs
  11/04/11
Info sessions at top b-schools are much more civilized and u...
cruel-hearted hairy legs
  11/04/11
Are you a bot?
vigorous dopamine
  11/04/11
lol, Ted Williams gets these posts
cruel-hearted hairy legs
  11/04/11
about 20-30% of xo poasters are this one's moniker-switch...
Green Vivacious Death Wish
  11/04/11
clearly, people at SIG/DRW/Jane Street are significantly sma...
Comical Abode Electric Furnace
  11/04/11
absolutely
Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete
  11/04/11


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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:16 PM
Author: hairless tantric laser beams

equivalent to Morgan Stanley/GS Investment banking in terms of prestige ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302141)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:17 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

in terms of pure prestige, no. but they're more selective, and if you do well, you can make a lot more money. the problem with prop trading is that you don't have that many exit options.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302157)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:20 PM
Author: hairless tantric laser beams

tyty. Can you explain a bit about the exit options they have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302177)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:22 PM
Author: Green Vivacious Death Wish

they can go work at other organizations doing quant trading strategies - it doesn't apply to typical hedge fund or banking stuff

they can also do it on their own, move into more traditional trading positions perhaps, or just get involved in something completely unrelated with the pile of money they've saved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302191)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:22 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

most prop traders at these top firms stay. part of this is the money and another part is that the kind of person who goes to work there does not want to do anything else. if you're a quant you could probably move into a quant hedge fund, and if you trade rate/currencies/commodities you might be able to move into a macro fund. but it's not a common move.

do you have interviews at these shops?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302193)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:26 PM
Author: hairless tantric laser beams

A friend of mine has some interviews.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302228)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:20 PM
Author: Green Vivacious Death Wish

i'd say working at jane street > industry prestige (maybe not lay prestige) than sachs ibanking

if you're at drw or getco doing well, you're making ~500K @ age 26 working til 6pm and doing something that's objectively pretty fun; don't really need exit options -- there isn't anything that's better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302179)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:23 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

if you're a hardcore math/cs geek who is fascinated by algo trading, then yes, you would not want to leave a place like getco.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302201)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:27 PM
Author: Green Vivacious Death Wish

there's also some extreme satisfaction in (1) not having clients/investors and (2) holding daily positions and getting immediate results/feedback on your work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302235)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:41 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

how do you know getco guys are making 500k/year at age 26?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302330)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:52 PM
Author: Green Vivacious Death Wish

guys at 26 have often been there long enough to be playing with real money - and they are a wildly successful bunch that get a % of earnings + a pretty awesome base salary (unheard of in all but a few prop shops), so your income in only limited by the amount of money you're responsible for and how successful your trading is

i've heard figures like $500K over on wallstreetoasis and know a couple alums working there who seem to support that ballpark

from what i hear the high end upside, on the other hand, is significantly lower than top hedge funds since they're ultimately gambling with less money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302392)



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Date: November 5th, 2011 12:00 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

ok, that makes sense. i know that base at citadel coming straight out of college is $100k. i think jane street is the same as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302436)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:29 PM
Author: cruel-hearted hairy legs

DB. You will have way more exit options than prop trading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302251)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:29 PM
Author: cruel-hearted hairy legs

Hopefully I won't be too old when I re-apply next year at age 31-32.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302256)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:30 PM
Author: cruel-hearted hairy legs

Info sessions at top b-schools are much more civilized and useful. That's just one advantage of going to a top b-school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302260)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:31 PM
Author: vigorous dopamine

Are you a bot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302268)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:31 PM
Author: cruel-hearted hairy legs

lol, Ted Williams gets these posts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302274)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:32 PM
Author: Green Vivacious Death Wish

about 20-30% of xo poasters are

this one's moniker-switching mechanism appears to be broken

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302277)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:38 PM
Author: Comical Abode Electric Furnace

clearly, people at SIG/DRW/Jane Street are significantly smarter than ibanking bros



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302312)



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Date: November 4th, 2011 11:40 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal lemon box office keepsake machete

absolutely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1799593&forum_id=2#19302328)