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yelena shagall clerking on the 7th circuit

and you think judges care about candidates' reputation?
Provocative impressive gas station
  05/06/12
I'd also like to preface my argument by mentioning that I am...
Green razzle meetinghouse
  05/06/12
Damn, this is credited. Where did it come from?
Frozen Wild Theater Stage Ceo
  05/06/12
Gawker!
Green razzle meetinghouse
  05/06/12
Some cogent analysis there
flesh center
  05/06/12
just lol. its 99.5/.5
glittery brass ape boltzmann
  11/19/17
180
bright blood rage home
  05/06/12
Link?
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
did stephanie grace get scotus?
salmon twisted mad-dog skullcap rehab
  05/06/12
She got Latham'd http://www.lw.com/people/StephanieNGrace
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
hey, they changed her pic from when this was last posted
mildly autistic hell
  05/06/12
maybe quotepumo knows her
Chrome Infuriating Alpha Juggernaut
  05/06/12
wonder what it's like to interview with her at a callback as...
salmon twisted mad-dog skullcap rehab
  05/06/12
*flashes Steph his swastika tattoo during callback* *gets...
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
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bright blood rage home
  05/06/12
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lime national gaming laptop
  06/08/12
lol, that links to their diversity scholarship now
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  11/19/17
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  05/06/12
that was a stupid debate. grace is not a member of the kkk. ...
Stimulating casino
  05/06/12
Yea, but look at what happened to Estrada.
Frozen Wild Theater Stage Ceo
  05/06/12
lol...well, i didn't say it was on par with yale.
Stimulating casino
  05/06/12
Yelena shegall: gets no offered, forwards racist email, cler...
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
i would be more likely to hire grace then sheagall. i know a...
Stimulating casino
  05/06/12
True.
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
i thought she was working for latham san diego after clerkin...
Concupiscible bespoke black woman
  05/06/12
Wrong racist shrew, bro
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
Type her name into Google and look at the shit that pops up.
primrose zippy market
  05/06/12
It really does not pay to have a unique name in the Internet...
exhilarant beta church building kitty
  05/06/12
*changes name to Theodore Huang*
Self-centered Knife Brunch
  05/06/12
...
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  05/06/12
meanwhile, need I mention... YOU: posting on xoxo
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  05/29/12
http://i.imgur.com/9mBcc.jpg
Bronze insane filthpig
  06/08/12
one of my best poasts ever. http://www.autoadmit.com/thre...
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  06/08/12
i like the weird question mark diamonds all over
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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:35 PM
Author: Provocative impressive gas station

and you think judges care about candidates' reputation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629277)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:42 PM
Author: Green razzle meetinghouse

I'd also like to preface my argument by mentioning that I am half Black and half Jewish.

Now, I'd like to address Ms. Grace's much ballyhooed dissertation concerning the "average intelligence of African Americans" by saying that I think it seems to be somewhat of a knee-jerk response for someone to automatically call this racism or racial supremacy. I don't find the tone of her commentary to be as ethnocentric as some people are making it and I think we're all being a little oversensitive by labeling her as we have.

From what I've read, she was having an intellectual sparring match via email with a fellow law student, an occurrence which happens frequently in many law schools amongst various ethnicities. The topic turned to race and African Americans came up in what some might feel was an offensive context. I read the email, and from one law school graduate to another, I feel she supported her arguments very well with evidence from reputable identical twin studies and other research findings devoted to understanding the balance between nature and nurture in intelligence.

Ms. Grace clearly is using the well-supported nature argument to support the idea that a good portion of intelligence is heritable, but also is sure to note the interaction genetics have with nurture or environment to point out that the combination might be specifically unfavorable for those of us who are African American. Again, as a black law school graduate, I see no foul in the argument she's made. Does this mean I agree with her statement that blacks are genetically predisposed to be less intelligent and that there's nothing we can do to change that? No, because that's not what she's saying. She's quite accurately using the identical-twin/adoption study argument in conjunction with the statistical environmental differences between blacks and whites to explain the achievement gap. She also goes on to imply that it is possible to eliminate this unfortunate truth "by controlling for the right variables" (read: socioeconomics) and that by doing so "we would see that they are, in fact, as intelligent as white people under the same circumstances." This is a well structured argument and I believe it is perfectly true. The poverty stricken girl in North Korea probably won't score as well as the kids at Andover and disadvantaged students in Harlem won't claim the perfect 2400s kids at Hotchkiss with SAT tutors do. It's not racism, it's reality.

I disagree that the lesson here is "don't be racist." I believe the lesson here is "who gives a shit what some HLS student has to say in a private email." As for the content and how it should affect the black community, move the hell on. So some white girl at Harvard thinks we're less intelligent. I went to Yale Law w/o the assistance of affirmative action and Obama's the fucking president. Sitting around whining about it solves nothing. Like it or not, intelligence has been proven to be determined by (as Ms. Grace noted) a mixture of genes and environment, but it is not 50/50, and is more like (for illustrative purposes only) 30/70. So, let's all go read a book so we can keep defeating stereotypes and enhance the efficacy of that other 70%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629335)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:26 PM
Author: Frozen Wild Theater Stage Ceo

Damn, this is credited.

Where did it come from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629679)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 8:22 PM
Author: Green razzle meetinghouse

Gawker!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20630604)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 8:19 PM
Author: flesh center

Some cogent analysis there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20630578)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: glittery brass ape boltzmann

just lol. its 99.5/.5



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#34726264)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:35 PM
Author: bright blood rage home

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629281)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:52 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629432)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:53 PM
Author: salmon twisted mad-dog skullcap rehab

did stephanie grace get scotus?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629442)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:59 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

She got Latham'd

http://www.lw.com/people/StephanieNGrace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629497)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:00 PM
Author: mildly autistic hell

hey, they changed her pic from when this was last posted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629505)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:01 PM
Author: Chrome Infuriating Alpha Juggernaut

maybe quotepumo knows her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629519)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:22 PM
Author: salmon twisted mad-dog skullcap rehab

wonder what it's like to interview with her at a callback as an applicant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629656)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

*flashes Steph his swastika tattoo during callback*

*gets an offer*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629708)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: bright blood rage home



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Date: June 8th, 2012 1:07 AM
Author: lime national gaming laptop



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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: exciting abusive site

lol, that links to their diversity scholarship now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#34726232)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 5:56 PM
Author: Boyish tanning salon water buffalo

brings back such memories

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1300089&mc=211&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=59fdaabe773a36bd474d94e524bc2cc7#16598952

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629473)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:20 PM
Author: Stimulating casino

that was a stupid debate. grace is not a member of the kkk. she is a dumbass who was effectively shit talking people over email and got burned by someone with a emotional age of a 7th grader. both, however, wound up ok in the end, proving yet again that HLS is a baller law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629646)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:25 PM
Author: Frozen Wild Theater Stage Ceo

Yea, but look at what happened to Estrada.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629674)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:27 PM
Author: Stimulating casino

lol...well, i didn't say it was on par with yale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629684)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:28 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

Yelena shegall: gets no offered, forwards racist email, clerks on 7th circuit. Estrada: gets no offered, poasts on racist tweet blog, works shit fed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629693)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:33 PM
Author: Stimulating casino

i would be more likely to hire grace then sheagall. i know a ton of law students who like to have those "i'm not racist, but" convos but would still make good associates. but someone forwarding a sensitive email in order to fuck another person over is not somebody i would trust with anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629726)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

True.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629740)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:41 PM
Author: Concupiscible bespoke black woman

i thought she was working for latham san diego after clerking for the koz.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629770)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:44 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

Wrong racist shrew, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629794)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:45 PM
Author: primrose zippy market

Type her name into Google and look at the shit that pops up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629800)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 6:47 PM
Author: exhilarant beta church building kitty

It really does not pay to have a unique name in the Internet age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20629818)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 8:27 PM
Author: Self-centered Knife Brunch

*changes name to Theodore Huang*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20630638)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 8:33 PM
Author: wonderful aqua really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20630691)



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Date: May 6th, 2012 9:15 PM
Author: gold unhinged bawdyhouse shitlib

meanwhile, need I mention...

YOU: posting on xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20631057)



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Date: May 29th, 2012 11:09 AM
Author: pungent carnelian hall corn cake



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Date: June 8th, 2012 12:57 AM
Author: Bronze insane filthpig

http://i.imgur.com/9mBcc.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20846959)



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Date: June 8th, 2012 1:14 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal step-uncle's house psychic

one of my best poasts ever.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1300089&forum_id=2#14879810

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#20847006)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:02 PM
Author: glittery brass ape boltzmann

i like the weird question mark diamonds all over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1941962&forum_id=2#34726289)