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http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/...
Embarrassed To The Bone Electric Trailer Park
  05/08/12
I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anyth...
Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
"Highly educated" made me chuckle. I wonder how...
wild frisky institution
  05/08/12
180
Big emerald elastic band
  05/08/12
lol http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About ...
Cream low-t parlour
  05/08/12
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marvelous piazza
  05/08/12
Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit w...
bonkers stead
  06/20/12
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geriatric hell voyeur
  05/08/12
Estimated yearly salary $8k.
Motley khaki church building hominid
  05/08/12
As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher educa...
Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
She is being paid in medieval dollars.
Dull hospital
  05/08/12
LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcoll...
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Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject...
tripping exhilarant sandwich
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hairraiser tantric shitlib chapel
  05/08/12
This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservata...
Anal kitty
  05/08/12
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Glittery Corn Cake
  06/20/12
No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.
Aquamarine genital piercing site
  06/20/12
she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at h...
fighting fluffy sound barrier boistinker
  05/08/12
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drab pozpig garrison
  05/08/12
Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studyin...
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Glittery Corn Cake
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Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these...
Glittery Corn Cake
  05/08/12
there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and t...
Seedy ticket booth
  05/08/12
by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community ...
Seedy ticket booth
  05/08/12
$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is ...
deranged round eye
  05/08/12
yes, I mean full-time job at CC. one of my relatives is t...
Seedy ticket booth
  05/08/12
keep talking shit about public ivies breh
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  05/08/12
You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even ...
Aromatic Public Bath Codepig
  05/08/12
why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teach...
drab pozpig garrison
  05/08/12
i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.
tripping exhilarant sandwich
  05/08/12
why?
drab pozpig garrison
  05/08/12
Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth...
Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
i think that was a tv show.
tripping exhilarant sandwich
  05/08/12
I know a phd in bio who did that, too.
Anal kitty
  05/08/12
"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputat...
Dark Lascivious Locale Azn
  05/08/12
PRESTIGE BIGLAW (meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City ...
Amethyst Stag Film
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Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat
  05/08/12
lol neurotypicals *plays with my 401k*
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  05/08/12
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Glittery Corn Cake
  06/20/12
good question. and they would have the summers off to do res...
fighting fluffy sound barrier boistinker
  05/08/12
Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be R...
appetizing kitchen
  06/20/12
People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math pro...
blue legend candlestick maker
  05/08/12
Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will co...
Cream low-t parlour
  05/08/12
science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy fo...
Self-centered national
  05/08/12
I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so se...
very tactful orchestra pit
  05/08/12
shoulda copped dat stem
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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Electric Trailer Park

http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/

"I am not a welfare queen," says Melissa Bruninga-Matteau.

That's how she feels compelled to start a conversation about how she, a white woman with a Ph.D. in medieval history and an adjunct professor, came to rely on food stamps and Medicaid. Ms. Bruninga-Matteau, a 43-year-old single mother who teaches two humanities courses at Yavapai College, in Prescott, Ariz., says the stereotype of the people receiving such aid does not reflect reality. Recipients include growing numbers of people like her, the highly educated, whose advanced degrees have not insulated them from financial hardship.

"I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare," she says.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643269)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat

I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anything at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643293)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: wild frisky institution

"Highly educated" made me chuckle.

I wonder how long one might slum it on loan money + $10-20k salary for the opportunity to scratch some weird medieval fetish in front of a roomful of bored undergrads.

And I get a kick out of "welfare queen" coming from someone who probably participates in Renaissance festivals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643466)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: Big emerald elastic band

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643493)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: Cream low-t parlour

lol

http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About

https://plus.google.com/112599551828027848185/about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643821)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: marvelous piazza

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645293)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: bonkers stead

Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit with kids depending on her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20922144)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: geriatric hell voyeur



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:45 AM
Author: Motley khaki church building hominid

Estimated yearly salary $8k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643285)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:46 AM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat

As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher education, probably 60-70% of professors need to basically lose their jobs and retool themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643288)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: Dull hospital

She is being paid in medieval dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643294)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: Maize Mentally Impaired Sanctuary Electric Furnace

LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcolleges complaining about their shitpay, when said colleges already charge tuition well in excess of the (non-existant) value they provide, and would promptly go out of business if not for federally subsidized loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643527)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat



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Date: May 8th, 2012 2:54 PM
Author: tripping exhilarant sandwich

what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644720)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:31 PM
Author: hairraiser tantric shitlib chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644934)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: Anal kitty

This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservatards with absolutely no culture and with prole aspirations of pharmacy jobs.

Disclosure: I have one of those STEM degrees from an elite college that XOXO jerks off so hard to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645368)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 1:51 PM
Author: Glittery Corn Cake

tmfcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921713)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:50 PM
Author: Aquamarine genital piercing site

No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921970)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: fighting fluffy sound barrier boistinker

she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at her school, which would let her sit for the CPA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643536)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: drab pozpig garrison

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644771)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: charismatic state depressive

Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studying feudalism can't grasp how salaries are determined in capitalist systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643581)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Glittery Corn Cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643590)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643800)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: Glittery Corn Cake

why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these stories. they always have to ridicule the professor of "medieval studies."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643589)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Seedy ticket booth

there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and then did cpa or jd to become 'real' proefssionals, while teaching a class or two for pure interest. however, these are genuinely bright and versatile people.

there are people with mediocre intellect who can't switch fields. they are not that bright in their own fields anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643661)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: Seedy ticket booth

by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community college, she'll have a cool, credited life. does not have to be a professor at a research university, for which she is not that eligible anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643852)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: deranged round eye

$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is living the good life. $8k as a part-time teacher for online classes is not a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643875)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: Seedy ticket booth

yes, I mean full-time job at CC.

one of my relatives is teaching at CC even with a phd and he says a professor at a Research university earns more or less ... but with far more prestige.

actually, community college jobs would not be THAT difficult to find if her credentials have been better.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643895)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: salmon personal credit line box office

keep talking shit about public ivies breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644899)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: Aromatic Public Bath Codepig

You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even hiring for that type of thing anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644777)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: drab pozpig garrison

why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teaching jobs? those pay much better with better benefits and it's not like they couldn't teach at a local shit community college at night.

some high schools would dig getting a phd on staff and would probably eventually let them teach AP classes or other specialized stuff for the AP kids. i had a teacher like that in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644784)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:06 PM
Author: tripping exhilarant sandwich

i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: drab pozpig garrison

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644814)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat

Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644824)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: tripping exhilarant sandwich

i think that was a tv show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644843)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: Anal kitty

I know a phd in bio who did that, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645373)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:34 PM
Author: Dark Lascivious Locale Azn

"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputation as status capital. Some people are so deeply socialized into the regime of payment by way of status that they are essentially trapped in it for life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644943)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: Amethyst Stag Film

PRESTIGE

BIGLAW

(meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City outearns u)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644957)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: Hot Chest-beating Therapy Toilet Seat



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: drab pozpig garrison

lol neurotypicals

*plays with my 401k*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645186)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:07 PM
Author: Glittery Corn Cake



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: fighting fluffy sound barrier boistinker

good question. and they would have the summers off to do research/publish/maybe teach an adjunct CC class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645174)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: appetizing kitchen

Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be Richard Feynman or Harold Bloom, not to be supervised by some guy with a 3.3 in Education from Directional State U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921759)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: blue legend candlestick maker

People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math profs.

I had a math prof who was basically begging students to write him good reviews at the end of the year because needed that extension to keep his 20K income going for his two classes he taught.

I guess its becoming less of a problem though because universities are just dumping these guys for TA's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644851)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: Cream low-t parlour

Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will come down shortly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644865)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:28 PM
Author: Self-centered national

science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy for them to leave their shit ttteaching jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644921)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: very tactful orchestra pit

I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so severely for taking risks. This person could have ended up teaching in her field at a highly rated university, but didn't make it. So her only option is to teach as an adjunct at a cc for a few thousand? That's pretty severe. Obviously, once you realize the game, you have to retool yourself into a skillset that works for the economy. But I applaud her for going for the $80K/yr tenured job, even if she failed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645377)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Glittery Corn Cake

shoulda copped dat stem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645382)