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http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/...
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I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anyth...
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"Highly educated" made me chuckle. I wonder how...
soda  05/08/12
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lol http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About ...
Rafael Ironside, NINE TIME Roland Garros Champion  05/08/12
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Coed Naked Law School  05/08/12
Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit w...
spaceporn2525  06/20/12
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alejandro  05/08/12
Estimated yearly salary $8k.
:D's 15 yr old daughter asking about the lolsuit  05/08/12
As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher educa...
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She is being paid in medieval dollars.
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LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcoll...
7'4" 520 lbs.  05/08/12
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what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject...
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This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservata...
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tmfcq
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No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.
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she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at h...
flyfisher110  05/08/12
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Carl Spackler  05/08/12
Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studyin...
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why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these...
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there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and t...
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by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community ...
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$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is ...
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yes, I mean full-time job at CC. one of my relatives is t...
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keep talking shit about public ivies breh
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You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even ...
IronMonkey  05/08/12
why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teach...
Carl Spackler  05/08/12
i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.
Mann02.  05/08/12
why?
Carl Spackler  05/08/12
Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth...
.,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.  05/08/12
i think that was a tv show.
Mann02.  05/08/12
I know a phd in bio who did that, too.
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"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputat...
431  05/08/12
PRESTIGE BIGLAW (meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City ...
Christa Dunker riding Daniel Brou in hell  05/08/12
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.,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.  05/08/12
lol neurotypicals *plays with my 401k*
Carl Spackler  05/08/12
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.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..  06/20/12
good question. and they would have the summers off to do res...
flyfisher110  05/08/12
Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be R...
The Mighty Quinn  06/20/12
People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math pro...
solace and wallace  05/08/12
Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will co...
Rafael Ironside, NINE TIME Roland Garros Champion  05/08/12
science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy fo...
mentally ill korean powerlifter  05/08/12
I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so se...
... ,. .,. ... ... ......  05/08/12
shoulda copped dat stem
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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:43 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,...,:::,.;..,:,.,.:,.:.,:.::,

http://chronicle.com/article/From-Graduate-School-to/131795/

"I am not a welfare queen," says Melissa Bruninga-Matteau.

That's how she feels compelled to start a conversation about how she, a white woman with a Ph.D. in medieval history and an adjunct professor, came to rely on food stamps and Medicaid. Ms. Bruninga-Matteau, a 43-year-old single mother who teaches two humanities courses at Yavapai College, in Prescott, Ariz., says the stereotype of the people receiving such aid does not reflect reality. Recipients include growing numbers of people like her, the highly educated, whose advanced degrees have not insulated them from financial hardship.

"I find it horrifying that someone who stands in front of college classes and teaches is on welfare," she says.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643269)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.

I find it horrifying that she thinks her work is worth anything at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643293)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:14 AM
Author: soda

"Highly educated" made me chuckle.

I wonder how long one might slum it on loan money + $10-20k salary for the opportunity to scratch some weird medieval fetish in front of a roomful of bored undergrads.

And I get a kick out of "welfare queen" coming from someone who probably participates in Renaissance festivals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643466)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:18 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

180

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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: Rafael Ironside, NINE TIME Roland Garros Champion (still Deadlifter)

lol

http://uci.academia.edu/MelissaBruningaMatteau/About

https://plus.google.com/112599551828027848185/about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643821)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:38 PM
Author: Coed Naked Law School

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645293)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: spaceporn2525 ( )

Totally irresponsible broad, "studying" dat shit with kids depending on her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20922144)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:44 AM
Author: alejandro



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643276)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:45 AM
Author: :D's 15 yr old daughter asking about the lolsuit

Estimated yearly salary $8k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643285)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:46 AM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.

As part of transitioning to a sensible model of higher education, probably 60-70% of professors need to basically lose their jobs and retool themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643288)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 10:47 AM
Author: ;.,.;;.;;.,.;;;.,;.,.,..,.;;.;.;;.;.; ( )

She is being paid in medieval dollars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643294)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:25 AM
Author: 7'4" 520 lbs.

LOL, just LOL at shitprofs teaching shitsubjects at shitcolleges complaining about their shitpay, when said colleges already charge tuition well in excess of the (non-existant) value they provide, and would promptly go out of business if not for federally subsidized loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643527)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.



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Date: May 8th, 2012 2:54 PM
Author: Mann02.

what kind of prole thinks medieval history is a shit subject?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644720)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:31 PM
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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:47 PM
Author: ,,,,,..,.,.,,.

This site has become infested with Santorum-esque conservatards with absolutely no culture and with prole aspirations of pharmacy jobs.

Disclosure: I have one of those STEM degrees from an elite college that XOXO jerks off so hard to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645368)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 1:51 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

tmfcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921713)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.;.,:;:,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.

No one is paying loans to go to Yavapai College.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921970)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:27 AM
Author: flyfisher110

she can probably take accounting classes for free/cheap at her school, which would let her sit for the CPA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643536)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: Carl Spackler

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644771)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:38 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,,,,..,,.....,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,,

Not surprising that someone who's spent all her life studying feudalism can't grasp how salaries are determined in capitalist systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643581)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643800)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:39 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

why can't it ever be a science/math STEM PhD in one of these stories. they always have to ridicule the professor of "medieval studies."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643589)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: ....,.....,,.....,......,,,,

there are people who did humanities phd at top schools and then did cpa or jd to become 'real' proefssionals, while teaching a class or two for pure interest. however, these are genuinely bright and versatile people.

there are people with mediocre intellect who can't switch fields. they are not that bright in their own fields anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643661)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:18 PM
Author: ....,.....,,.....,......,,,,

by the way, if she could find a teaching job at a community college, she'll have a cool, credited life. does not have to be a professor at a research university, for which she is not that eligible anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643852)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:21 PM
Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::,.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,

$60k with health insurance to teach chill students at CC is living the good life. $8k as a part-time teacher for online classes is not a career.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643875)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 12:23 PM
Author: ....,.....,,.....,......,,,,

yes, I mean full-time job at CC.

one of my relatives is teaching at CC even with a phd and he says a professor at a Research university earns more or less ... but with far more prestige.

actually, community college jobs would not be THAT difficult to find if her credentials have been better.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20643895)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:23 PM
Author: ,..,,.:....,,;,,,.,..:..,:......,;,,;,....,...:.. (poomo)

keep talking shit about public ivies breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644899)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: IronMonkey

You mean a tenure-track position? Is anyone, anywhere even hiring for that type of thing anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644777)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:04 PM
Author: Carl Spackler

why don't people in shit higher ed gun for high school teaching jobs? those pay much better with better benefits and it's not like they couldn't teach at a local shit community college at night.

some high schools would dig getting a phd on staff and would probably eventually let them teach AP classes or other specialized stuff for the AP kids. i had a teacher like that in HS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644784)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:06 PM
Author: Mann02.

i know of a phd chemist who did this. kind of sad though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: Carl Spackler

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644814)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.

Me too. Guy ended up going off the deep end and cooking meth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644824)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: Mann02.

i think that was a tv show.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644843)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:48 PM
Author: ,,,,,..,.,.,,.

I know a phd in bio who did that, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645373)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:34 PM
Author: 431

"We socialize people into accepting the coin of reputation as status capital. Some people are so deeply socialized into the regime of payment by way of status that they are essentially trapped in it for life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644943)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: Christa Dunker riding Daniel Brou in hell

PRESTIGE

BIGLAW

(meanwhile a plumber in Oklahoma City outearns u)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644957)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: .,,.,...,,......,,.,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645149)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:19 PM
Author: Carl Spackler

lol neurotypicals

*plays with my 401k*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645186)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:07 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921791)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:17 PM
Author: flyfisher110

good question. and they would have the summers off to do research/publish/maybe teach an adjunct CC class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645174)



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Date: June 20th, 2012 2:01 PM
Author: The Mighty Quinn

Striver dreams die hard bro. People go into academia to be Richard Feynman or Harold Bloom, not to be supervised by some guy with a 3.3 in Education from Directional State U.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20921759)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: solace and wallace

People ITT act like there are no adjunct science or math profs.

I had a math prof who was basically begging students to write him good reviews at the end of the year because needed that extension to keep his 20K income going for his two classes he taught.

I guess its becoming less of a problem though because universities are just dumping these guys for TA's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644851)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: Rafael Ironside, NINE TIME Roland Garros Champion (still Deadlifter)

Good thing they are cutting costs. I assume tuition will come down shortly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644865)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 3:28 PM
Author: mentally ill korean powerlifter

science/math profs have much better options, so it's easy for them to leave their shit ttteaching jobs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20644921)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: ... ,. .,. ... ... ......

I hate to say it, but society should not punish people so severely for taking risks. This person could have ended up teaching in her field at a highly rated university, but didn't make it. So her only option is to teach as an adjunct at a cc for a few thousand? That's pretty severe. Obviously, once you realize the game, you have to retool yourself into a skillset that works for the economy. But I applaud her for going for the $80K/yr tenured job, even if she failed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645377)



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Date: May 8th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..

shoulda copped dat stem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1943298&forum_id=2#20645382)