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BIGLAW and reserve military?

I am currently in BIGLAW and was thinking about joining the ...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
I bet it's 100% illegal to fire u for that and it makes them...
apoplectic locus double fault
  09/30/12
I figured that would be the case. I want to join the milita...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
It is, in fact, 100.01% illegal for them to fire you for tha...
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  09/30/12
They are not required by law to keep a job for you. They can...
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  09/30/12
(guy who lies on internet forums) http://www.justice.gov/us...
Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo
  09/30/12
Freaking board swallowed my epic poast on this topic. S...
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  10/01/12
How could you possibly balance the reserves and Biglaw? You ...
pontificating area voyeur
  09/30/12
It is only one weekend a month. I think I can manage that. ...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
plus 2 weeks of AT/year several weekends are 3 day drills
Gaped Gaping
  09/30/12
As long as my firm can't boot me while I do this I am fine. ...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
army reserve jag?
Gaped Gaping
  09/30/12
Naw. I want to do just regular officer, non-law related. Pr...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
Why not just ... join as an AD officer?
pontificating area voyeur
  09/30/12
Still want my 160 plus salary bro.
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
you're gonna be gone for a while for that training.
Gaped Gaping
  09/30/12
True. Lets say my hours drop at BIGLAW because of my time c...
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
they'll find other reasons to fire you.
Gaped Gaping
  09/30/12
It had better be a good reason. There's a whole sector of sh...
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  09/30/12
a whole sector of employment law scaring the fuck out of big...
Contagious half-breed
  10/01/12
TT got your back!
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  07/24/17
I hereby announce you are un-fireable. Do whatever you want...
Titillating Principal's Office Volcanic Crater
  09/30/12
can't be fired under USERRA, but employer will find a way to...
bateful dark incel
  09/30/12
It would be a lot easier to justify your reserve duty if you...
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  09/30/12
i am currently doing this. it's NBD. i'm on track to bill a...
Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo
  09/30/12
Did the partners give you shit for doing it?
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
nope, not at all. it is along the same lines of how people a...
Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo
  09/30/12
is being in the reserves worth it? just seems like a huge pa...
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  09/30/12
nope. not unless you are really gung ho. but i am very disil...
Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo
  09/30/12
know a guy who did this and thought it was going great, then...
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  09/30/12
second. the dood i know, when he came back he survived a few...
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  09/30/12
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greedy sooty juggernaut
  09/30/12
Late 20s is old?
brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band
  09/30/12
i think 30 is the max age now and no waivers. army is contra...
big box office famous landscape painting
  09/30/12
I would love to see the face of the partner you tell you're ...
big box office famous landscape painting
  09/30/12
and that's just for basic. plus 12 for ocs, plus another 10 ...
Diverse Ape
  09/30/12
There are branches (Navy, Coast Guard) that have direct-to-r...
spectacular irate parlour marketing idea
  10/01/12
Is there any reason you are thinking about Army Reserve over...
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  10/01/12
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  07/24/17
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Date: September 30th, 2012 2:55 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

I am currently in BIGLAW and was thinking about joining the military as a reserve officer. From what I understand, I would have to go through a few months of training as a reserve officer after I join. Can I get fired from BIGLAW if I were to tell my partner that I plan on doing this? Or if I already sign up and the military requires me to go through that training and I would need to take a leave of absence during that period?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685328)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 2:56 PM
Author: apoplectic locus double fault

I bet it's 100% illegal to fire u for that and it makes them beta as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685333)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 2:57 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

I figured that would be the case. I want to join the military as a reserve for the right reasons, e.g., for my country. But, I also think it is a good idea to take some time off from the law while I go through the training.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685339)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:51 PM
Author: Razzle private investor university

It is, in fact, 100.01% illegal for them to fire you for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686068)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:52 PM
Author: henna coffee pot karate

They are not required by law to keep a job for you. They can downsize you out if they choose to do so. It happened to a buddy of mine who was in Midlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686083)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:00 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo

(guy who lies on internet forums)

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nce/documents/EmploymentRights.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686138)



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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:16 AM
Author: spectacular irate parlour marketing idea

Freaking board swallowed my epic poast on this topic.

Short version:

I've done this for a while (NY, V30).

You will piss off many of your co-workers, who will have to pick up your slack while you are away doing things they don't really understand ("Drill? Is that like marching band practice?").

You will probably have a hard time doing well in your military career and keeping up with the firm's demands. Especially as an officer, you have to deal with all kinds of random business during the month between drills. People get injured, people get sick, people want to transfer, people want to go on extra AT, people are mobilizing, etc. Staying on top of that stuff takes a substantial amount of time.

Depending on what you want to do, reserve service can be worth it. I think it also helps keep you grounded. But it's not something to do as a hobby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21689750)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 2:59 PM
Author: pontificating area voyeur

How could you possibly balance the reserves and Biglaw? You can't get fired though, that's illegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685344)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:06 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

It is only one weekend a month. I think I can manage that. I don't work every single weekend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685369)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: Gaped Gaping

plus 2 weeks of AT/year

several weekends are 3 day drills

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685385)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

As long as my firm can't boot me while I do this I am fine. I know I can still bill 2000 hours. It is October and I am only 200 hours away from reaching 2000 as is. I think I can pull it off with reserve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685398)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 2:59 PM
Author: Gaped Gaping

army reserve jag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685345)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:09 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

Naw. I want to do just regular officer, non-law related. Probably regular infantry, marines or army.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685392)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:13 PM
Author: pontificating area voyeur

Why not just ... join as an AD officer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685408)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

Still want my 160 plus salary bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685427)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:16 PM
Author: Gaped Gaping

you're gonna be gone for a while for that training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685425)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 3:17 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

True. Lets say my hours drop at BIGLAW because of my time commitment to reserve, they still can't fire me right? Also, I really don't care about making partner because I plan on leaving as soon as I find something in the federal gov sector. I figure military reserve will help me get a fed job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685434)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: Gaped Gaping

they'll find other reasons to fire you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685678)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:52 PM
Author: Razzle private investor university

It had better be a good reason. There's a whole sector of shitlaw that makes bank doing exactly this kind of work. It's like filing a shareholder derivative lawsuit after an SEC investigation. Money in the bank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686082)



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Date: October 1st, 2012 8:46 AM
Author: Contagious half-breed

a whole sector of employment law scaring the fuck out of biglaw like the sec.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21690536)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 8:47 PM
Author: flushed casino skinny woman

TT got your back!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#33846948)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:14 PM
Author: Titillating Principal's Office Volcanic Crater

I hereby announce you are un-fireable. Do whatever you want. Yay!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685699)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 4:16 PM
Author: bateful dark incel

can't be fired under USERRA, but employer will find a way to fuck with you anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21685716)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:17 PM
Author: Alcoholic cobalt mental disorder immigrant

It would be a lot easier to justify your reserve duty if you came into the firm as an existing reservist. But the fact that you are affirmatively seeking out this service at this point, after already having been at the firm for a few years, would raise some eyebrows from your partners. I'm not saying it's not a noble pursuit, but some people may view it as a way for you to have a built-in excuse to avoid work for a few weeks a year.

That being said, there's no way they would fire you explicitly for this reason. There may also be some partners (ex-military guys especially) who think what you are doing is worthwhile. But I think on a net basis it would be a negative for your BIGLAW career, at least at your present firm.

If I were you I'd try to leverage BIGLAW + reserve into a sweet fedgov gig, where reserve duty is a point of pride.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686221)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:01 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo

i am currently doing this. it's NBD. i'm on track to bill about 2200 this year. kept billing through my two week annual training, though only about 10-15 hours a week. probably easier to do this because i'm in litigation. i think litigators typically don't work on weekends, whereas corporate guys work whenever the client wants them to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686144)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:46 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

Did the partners give you shit for doing it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687609)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:49 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo

nope, not at all. it is along the same lines of how people are afraid of seeming racist if they discriminate. people are very considerate of reserve military service obligations. the guy above has a point though: i was in the reserves going into biglaw. if you joined after alraedy being in biglaw, i could see that being a problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687634)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:54 PM
Author: big box office famous landscape painting

is being in the reserves worth it? just seems like a huge pain in the ass doing it on top of another job. seems like either AD or nothing would be better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687678)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:56 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring outnumbered messiness ceo

nope. not unless you are really gung ho. but i am very disillusioned with the military, so maybe don't take my word for it. joined because i was a very patriotic teenager. i would never do active duty... that would be hell. i've had some great times and experiences in the military and the guard, but for the most part it is just an epic pain in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687698)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:14 PM
Author: Ruby adulterous step-uncle's house

know a guy who did this and thought it was going great, then got Afghanistan-pwned and had to leave for a year. goodbye partner chances!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686202)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed address

second. the dood i know, when he came back he survived a few months, basically enough time so the firm wouldn't get blamed, and then they fired his fucking ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686431)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: greedy sooty juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21686386)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:47 PM
Author: brass bearded school cafeteria elastic band

Late 20s is old?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687616)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:55 PM
Author: big box office famous landscape painting

i think 30 is the max age now and no waivers. army is contracting under obama:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687687)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 8:53 PM
Author: big box office famous landscape painting

I would love to see the face of the partner you tell you're going to need 10 weeks off to go to training.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21687667)



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Date: September 30th, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: Diverse Ape

and that's just for basic. plus 12 for ocs, plus another 10 or so for your branch OBC. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21688241)



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Date: October 1st, 2012 1:20 AM
Author: spectacular irate parlour marketing idea

There are branches (Navy, Coast Guard) that have direct-to-reserve officer accession programs that are basically a drill schedule. Apart from it being nearly impossible to get a commission this way with no prior service, I think it's more disruptive to be away for a bunch of shorter periods of time than it would be to just be gone for 9 months or a year. That said, there's a noticeable difference in people's attitudes when you're going away for training vs. mobilizing somewhere unpleasant overseas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21689764)



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Date: October 1st, 2012 8:31 AM
Author: Motley Point

Is there any reason you are thinking about Army Reserve over National Guard?

I've been thinking about National Guard. I understand they do go overseas, but I also think I would like the domestic missions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#21690531)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: soggy dull stead

weird to see corporate slave poasting in this dried out old thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#33846878)



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Date: July 24th, 2017 8:45 PM
Author: talented cruise ship

Knew a guy that did this for years until like year 8 and then copped dat veterans preference and got bigfed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2065533&forum_id=2#33846928)