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"Keep on Loving You" illustrates the diseased cuckold mind.

Cuckoldry is the logical endpoint of beta supplication (i.e....
Motley temple
  03/23/13
nice. cue reo on youtube
cracking tan hissy fit
  03/23/13
They made the power ballad an art form. They also have incr...
Motley temple
  03/23/13
they aren't all pussy songs, but there are enough which one...
cracking tan hissy fit
  03/23/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmo36gnUCWE
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  03/23/13
i fear that this analysis may suffer from a logocentric lacu...
excitant chad
  03/23/13
180
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  03/23/13
There was no sexual encounter in the first place.
Motley temple
  03/23/13
this is one reading of the text, perhaps from an aspie virgi...
excitant chad
  03/23/13
The "love" is obsession and completely ironic. I ...
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180 my nilla
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what other bands do you like bro?
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they specialize in cuck songs. Heard it from a friend w...
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I've thought long and hard about this rating. 180
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I like REO Speedwagon.
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Date: March 23rd, 2013 4:52 PM
Author: Motley temple

Cuckoldry is the logical endpoint of beta supplication (i.e., beta for aspies). No Nietzsche, but betas use submissive displays as a coercive tactic. REO Speedwagon, probably the single greatest band of the modern era, illustrates this violent irony in their hit single, "Keep on Loving You." I'll confine my remarks to the lyrics, although future researchers may want to explore the harmonic echoes of Bach and Wagner, as well as the potent archetypes found in the music video.

"Keep on Loving You" begins with an accusation. "You should have seen by the look in my eye, baby..." etc. The beta male, afraid of direct masculine expression, uses female intuition as a weapon. He can't lead the relationship, so he foists blame onto the woman. The words get progressively more violent, until we reach the cuckold point: "And though I know all about those men, still I don't remember..." Notice that unlike the true cuck, the beta isn't even willing to acknowledge his desire for the bull. He pleads amnesia. There's also the clever verbal trick of eluding whose men these are. Normal heterosexuals probably think the woman has cheated, but the ambiguous lyrics leave open the interpretation that the beta is a closeted faggot.

The lead up to the chorus is just fucking brilliant. "And I meant every word I said..." No, he didn't. Listen carefully. "When I said that I loved you, I meant that I loved you forever." Like the pigs in Animal Farm who tack nasty conditions to their laws, the beta's avowals always carry an implied proviso, entirely of his own making. "Forever" is the word he didn't say, but it's the word with which, like an avenging Fury, he'll saddle this poor woman for the entire song.

At the chorus, the narrator blossoms into full-blown obsession and insanity. He refuses to sleep, he has only this singular obsession. REO Speedwagon stretches Dante's cliche to its uttermost limit.

Unlike most songs that try a new stanza between choruses, "Keep on Loving You" repeats it to the end. Because there is nothing after obsession for the beta male. He can only softly fade away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868181)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 4:54 PM
Author: cracking tan hissy fit

nice.

cue reo on youtube

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868193)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:00 PM
Author: Motley temple

They made the power ballad an art form. They also have incredible psychological depth, writing about cuckolds, closeted gays, cads, and other models of failed masculinity. But there's a penumbra, formed by emanations of these lyrics, where you can see all the glory of true virile masculinity (and communicated tonally throughout all their work). I don't think there's been a more profound comment on the decline of Western civilization since the end of Vietnam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868226)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: cracking tan hissy fit

they aren't all pussy songs, but there are enough

which one is about closeted gays?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868276)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: Motley temple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmo36gnUCWE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868309)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: excitant chad

i fear that this analysis may suffer from a logocentric lacuna, trapped within the text. looking at REO Speedwagon's lyrics instead as a unit in a (gendered) semiotic framework, it represents the rebuttal of a former sexual partner's attempted rejection of a repeat encounter. the song recasts the traditional "booty call" framework into a language more appealing to female-gendered sexual calculations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868275)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: Sapphire nursing home gunner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868310)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Motley temple

There was no sexual encounter in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868320)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:26 PM
Author: excitant chad

this is one reading of the text, perhaps from an aspie virginal worldview, viewing it as a 'doobsian' paean to the girl next door with whom the author presumably has never spoken.

in an understanding rooted in heterosexual, cisnormative promiscuity (betraying perhaps my 'prole' origins), the intersubjectivity of the lyrics between the singer and the intended recipient assumes a previous sexual encounter - otherwise, whither love?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868353)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:36 PM
Author: Motley temple

The "love" is obsession and completely ironic. I hate to plead music video here, but bro, music video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-j32y4cbzw

Like a typical leftist prole, you're vaguely associating stuff you heard from dudes who read a Wikipedia article and smearing pseudo-Lacanian bullshit to hide your tracks. The fact is, you have the wrong song. You're thinking of "Take It on the Run", where the narrator's careless take-it-or-leave-it attitude is more compatible with promiscuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868402)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 6:16 PM
Author: excitant chad

"All science would be superfluous if the outward appearance and the essence of things directly coincided."

-Karl Marx, Capital v.III (1894)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868648)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:44 PM
Author: Motley temple

"[Genius] cannot indicate scientifically how it brings about its product, but rather gives the rule as nature. Hence, where an author owes a product to his genius, he does not himself know how the ideas for it have entered into his head, nor has he it in his power to invent the like at pleasure, or methodically, and communicate the same to others in such precepts as would put them in a position to produce similar products. (Hence, presumably, our word Genie is derived from genius, as the peculiar guardian and guiding spirit given to a man at his birth, by the inspiration of which those original ideas were obtained.)."

-Immanuel Kant, Critique of Judgement (1790)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870412)



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Date: March 30th, 2013 5:55 PM
Author: Irate marvelous athletic conference sneaky criminal

this exchange is the best thing that happened on xo in at least 3 years. 1motherfucking80.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22907737)



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Date: January 2nd, 2014 10:59 PM
Author: Maize infuriating casino indirect expression

dear god im glad this was bumped

ljfuckingl at academia - this exchange isnt even far-fetched. masterful work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#24760453)



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Date: August 1st, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: exciting crystalline goyim theatre



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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:12 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Quadroon



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Date: April 8th, 2014 9:33 PM
Author: stirring slate party of the first part whorehouse



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:42 PM
Author: ruddy talented sanctuary

180 my nilla

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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Arrogant Pistol

what other bands do you like bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868306)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: Motley temple

The Eagles

Coldplay

Bon Jovi

For soloists, Mike Oldfield is a second Mozart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868341)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: maroon public bath

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868315)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: sooty rigor

Is writing stuff like this what you do instead of gettin crunked and gettin fucked?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868332)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 5:24 PM
Author: Motley temple

Pretty much everything I do is stuff I do instead of getting fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22868343)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:55 PM
Author: rough-skinned lodge organic girlfriend

they specialize in cuck songs.

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from another you been messin' around

They say you got a boy friend

You're out late every weekend

They're talkin' about you and it's bringin' me down

But I know the neighborhood

And talk is cheap when the story is good

And the tales grow taller on down the line

But I'm telling you, babe

That I don't think it's true, babe

And even if it is keep this in mind

[Refrain:]

You take it on the run baby

If that's the way you want it baby

Then I don't want you around

I don't believe it

Not for a minute

You're under the gun so you take it on the run

You're thinking up your white lies

You're putting on your bedroom eyes

You say you're coming home but you won't say when

But I can feel it coming

If you leave tonight keep running

And you need never look back again

[Refrain x3]

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from another you been messin' around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870468)



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Date: March 23rd, 2013 11:57 PM
Author: Motley temple

Classic interpretative mistake. This isn't a cuckold song. This is the song of a cad playing mind games with his woman to keep her at an emotional distance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22870474)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:56 PM
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Date: March 24th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Motley temple



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Date: March 30th, 2013 5:59 PM
Author: sticky soul-stirring resort

There's some 180 fuckin scholarship happening ITT. Why so few replies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#22907771)



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Date: May 16th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: Irate marvelous athletic conference sneaky criminal



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Date: May 16th, 2013 1:34 PM
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Date: May 16th, 2013 4:40 PM
Author: stirring slate party of the first part whorehouse

I've thought long and hard about this rating.

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#23211336)



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Date: June 26th, 2013 9:20 AM
Author: Multi-colored heaven

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Date: January 2nd, 2014 9:44 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal galvanic rehab

This is the kind of scholarship you can't get anywhere else. Unmitigated 180

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Date: January 2nd, 2014 11:00 PM
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Date: April 3rd, 2014 9:58 PM
Author: aquamarine corner voyeur

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: May 13th, 2016 11:07 PM
Author: Milky abode

I like REO Speedwagon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#30474793)



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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:18 PM
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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:22 PM
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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:22 PM
Author: adventurous cerise partner stag film

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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:44 PM
Author: Snowy candlestick maker

No, pbc was just on another level

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Date: November 14th, 2016 5:45 PM
Author: Racy brunch electric furnace

cr

bros, it's me again.

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Date: August 1st, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: bull headed juggernaut mother

If this thread resonates with you on any level (including skepticism), please watch this "fan-created" REO Speedwagon music video for an even cuckier song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G8jAPPjpGs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2212393&forum_id=2#36538137)



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Date: November 30th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Aromatic Fishy Hominid Fat Ankles



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Author: Razzle-dazzle Quadroon



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