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One wrong 90's prediction: Mexican music did NOT converge w/rap

if you go back to the late 90's, there were a series of mexi...
black queen of the night
  08/16/13
"Larry" Hernandez, lol
nudist station old irish cottage
  08/25/13
another related thwarted trend is the "latin crossover&...
black queen of the night
  08/16/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mDObUoMyI
black queen of the night
  08/25/13
The real question: why don't more American rappers incorpora...
aromatic obsidian shrine blood rage
  08/25/13
Cypress Hill begs to differ
snowy becky idiot
  08/25/13
LOL, you're one of my favorite posters but this is so uninte...
Curious Sneaky Criminal Lay
  08/25/13
it's an arcane bit of sociology. but considering all the po...
black queen of the night
  08/25/13
every mexican i know considers cubans to be almost entirely ...
snowy becky idiot
  08/25/13
the caribs really don't converge at all with mexicans or cen...
black queen of the night
  08/25/13
came from people that couldnt differentiate mexs from other ...
Territorial up-to-no-good twinkling uncleanness hospital
  08/25/13
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Out-of-control affirmative action box office
  08/25/13
How bizzare.
odious meetinghouse kitty
  08/25/13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY
snowy becky idiot
  08/25/13
cr
Bateful violet brunch
  08/25/13
knew it was this song before clicking
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  09/09/13
here's the latest super-hit from banda el recodo, released a...
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  09/09/13
...
Passionate drab locus
  11/17/17
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/Pi...
Hot Messiness
  11/17/17
not a mexican
gaped dopamine
  11/17/17
Daddy Yankee?
irate partner
  11/17/17
that's a porto-reekan, not a messican.
black queen of the night
  11/17/17
180 underrated thread
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  11/17/17


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Date: August 16th, 2013 1:58 AM
Author: black queen of the night

if you go back to the late 90's, there were a series of mexican bands such as control machete, molotov, and plastilina mosh which incorporated rap elements into their albums. argentine band Illya Kuryaki & The Valderramas did an album with bootsy collins which produced the 1999 global superhit "jennifer del estero":

http://vimeo.com/11796803

the thinking was, rap and mexican/latin music are going to converge, and that will be the new direction of latin music generally.

that did not happen AT ALL in mexico. there was some convergence with caribbean hispanics (reggaeton, etc.), but mexicans actually RETRENCHED deep into regionalism - that meant horns, accordions, mexican big bands, and the "corrido" style of languid storytelling-singing.

rather than rap hybrids, THIS is kind of music which came to dominate the northern mexican "scene" by the mid-2000's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj3VZZS2nzw#t=10s

rather than adopting a cholo/hip-hop clothing style, modern mexican gangbangers look like preppy cowboys:

http://i2.listal.com/image/2304587/600full-valentin-elizalde.jpg

mexicans in the US are occasional consumers of rap, but that was actually more of a "chicano" thing popular among "integrated" mexican-americans. many mexicans in the US regard rap as completely foreign, and prefer their own concerts/festivals with lineups like this:

http://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/1045097_204049686414705_1655803504_n.jpg

http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/17/cfd02c725d2f481b9ae06b5eb6bc0925/l.jpg

http://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1098474_494198420657194_856710867_n.jpg

it's an interesting failure of a predicted trend, and not one i have seen remarked upon very much at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23850431)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:47 PM
Author: nudist station old irish cottage

"Larry" Hernandez, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932390)



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Date: August 16th, 2013 3:59 PM
Author: black queen of the night

another related thwarted trend is the "latin crossover" song, at least so far as it involved mexicans. you can shape an enrique iglesias song for the non-hispanic american market, but try doing that with many of mexico's current most popular bands:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVlAmP-KDT4

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23853446)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:27 PM
Author: black queen of the night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mDObUoMyI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932254)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:48 PM
Author: aromatic obsidian shrine blood rage

The real question: why don't more American rappers incorporate horns and accordions into their act? How 180 would that be?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932400)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:51 PM
Author: snowy becky idiot

Cypress Hill begs to differ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932423)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:53 PM
Author: Curious Sneaky Criminal Lay

LOL, you're one of my favorite posters but this is so uninteresting it's hurting my head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932441)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:02 PM
Author: black queen of the night

it's an arcane bit of sociology. but considering all the political implications of "hispanics," i think it's good to note just how continuously wrong mainstream "commentators" have been about the nature and habits of mexicans in america.

from what i can see, a good deal of the top "hispanic" political consultants on both sides are cubans. cubans are less than 4% of america's hispanic population, while mexicans alone are almost 2/3rds.

these are some sub rosa trends, because - after all - who really pays attention to mexicans? but there sure are a lot of them, in america...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932517)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:04 PM
Author: snowy becky idiot

every mexican i know considers cubans to be almost entirely separate, culturally. same goes with regards to puerto ricans. and dominicans? lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932535)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:08 PM
Author: black queen of the night

the caribs really don't converge at all with mexicans or central americans. the closest they get is when mexicans watch some of the shows from miami on univision. but even then, the main joy in such an endeavor is to identify their differences and mock them.

colombia has been marketing san andres (a caribbean island) as a beach vacation alternative to mexicans and central americans so that they don't have to travel "all the way" to the DR or puerto rico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932562)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 10:54 PM
Author: Territorial up-to-no-good twinkling uncleanness hospital

came from people that couldnt differentiate mexs from other hispanics. dominicans/PRs/cubans/colombians etc go for the black american stuff. Mexs are pretty anti-black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932448)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:14 PM
Author: Out-of-control affirmative action box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932608)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:21 PM
Author: odious meetinghouse kitty

How bizzare.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932652)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:24 PM
Author: snowy becky idiot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cMG33mWVY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932666)



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Date: August 25th, 2013 11:26 PM
Author: Bateful violet brunch

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#23932680)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 7:15 PM
Author: Titillating Property

knew it was this song before clicking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#24021848)



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Date: September 9th, 2013 7:03 PM
Author: black queen of the night

here's the latest super-hit from banda el recodo, released a few days ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXa8LjXNshs

they filmed the video in NYC this time. the sound, though, remains thoroughly mexican.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#24021790)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:06 PM
Author: Passionate drab locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714567)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: Hot Messiness

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/PitbullHWOFMay2013.jpg/220px-PitbullHWOFMay2013.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714714)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: gaped dopamine

not a mexican

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714786)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:38 PM
Author: irate partner

Daddy Yankee?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714737)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: black queen of the night

that's a porto-reekan, not a messican.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714784)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:50 PM
Author: sexy shimmering pozpig parlor

180 underrated thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2337602&forum_id=2#34714787)