few shrews take shrewy jobs to shun family/husband life. the women in cush jobs are there cause they're lazier/dumber, not more family friendly, in lots of cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364477)

but honestly. xo idealizes women in high QOL jobs thinking they must be super awesome women but really these are just lazy dumbs waiting to live off of men. yea every now and then you get a chick who wants to be a teacher cause she loves children, but you have just as many who are mostly looking to live off city/state teats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364548)

most girls do underestimate age depreciation in the eyes of men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364480)

It's best to avoid such situations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364505)

Average female age of first marriage is 27. At 30 she's three years late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364585)

There are outliers that get married at 35 and 40 but they are rare. Basing your life strategy on such an outcome is foolish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364696)

These are weasel words which are ignoring what is described perfectly by a Poisson distribution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364756)

What's the correct statistic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364851)

Children are the reason for a lot of marriages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364602)

But that is not at all what marriage is about. That makes a very shoddy marriage. Marriage is not about you. It's about your children. You need to marry the kind of woman who would be the best mother for your children, and the kind of woman I described above is most definitely not it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364662)

a woman single at 30 with no prospects might as well give up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364620)

Women don't cock-hop like men do. Women just can have piss-poor instincts when it comes to who actually is a realistic marriage prospect.

I do know many 30+ women who have gotten married. Heck, I even know many middle-aged women who are on their second or third marriages to men of a similar age. An attractive woman stays attractive. A good catch does not depreciate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364687)

If he has a good stable job, he's not violent, he has a good family, he takes care of himself physically, he's not a drunk/druggie, he's a good marriage prospect. It's not hard.

You marry to have a family, so there's no reason to marry a woman over 35.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364743)

So an electrician would be a good marriage prospect for a woman with a Ph.D.? I think building a strong marriage is about finding someone who shares your values. Saying what you just said is like saying that you should eat at a restaurant because you won't get food poisoning there. It's the bare minimum. I'm a dood and I don't want to settle for the bare minimum in girls. I don't want a cheerful, perky hairdresser just because she's blonde and has big tits. I'd have nothing to say to her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364764)

Heck, if marriage were all about falling in love with your best friend all like the old guy did in that movie Up, then I'd have no qualms marrying someone my age and would probably prefer it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364791)

This person can be someone much younger. But it doesn't have to be. It's a dynamic thing, not so much an age thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364842)

just ignore him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24366976)

No, probably not, but an overeducated woman has to be prepared to sacrifice some looks/sexiness if she demands a similarly educated guy, and many women don't want to sacrifice anything. So they don't get married.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364810)

We can speak all darn day about what we do and don't value, but we really don't know what means most to us until we're faced with an IRL situation. I don't know one person who got married who didn't have to sacrifice giving up some abstract ideal in some way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364836)

Japan is leading in this phenomenon, but we're headed there too.

See this: http://gu.com/p/3jtcn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364526)

Evolution in progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364732)

From a 50 yr + perspective who has been though the job, house family pathway I find it interesting that some of the urban younger generations are turning away from the traditional pathway of accepted social norms and making choices about life and relationships based on differing experiential values.

Good luck to them perusing gratification that is not dictated to them ......

reply to boomer flame: handsofstone malcolmedwards

20 October 2013 3:28pm

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It might also be something to do with the fact that your generation took all the houses and remain in all the jobs.

Having a family without those two isn't ideal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24364773)

1. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for a man to marry unless he wants a family. This is not debatable, and any low-t shitlibs betas who say otherwise should be ignored.

2. If you want a family, you need a wife who is going to be a good mother. After all, it makes no sense to marry someone who sucks at the one thing that merits getting married in the first place.

3. A good mother wants to have children at a reasonable age, both for the health of the children and so that she has the youthful energy to be a good mother. A woman who wants to push off having kids until her late 30s presents serious red flags for being a good mother (not to mention the cost and stress of fertility treatments).

4. A good, reasonably-aged mother also wants to RAISE her children, not shelp them off to a daycare to be half-heartedly monitored 10 hours a day in a group of 20 other toddlers by 4 Jamaican/Mexican ladies. While it is understandable why a shrew likes the daycare option, there is ZERO upside for a man in this scenario.

5. In addition to projecting to be a good mother in some abstract way (including sacrifice career for kids), you need a wife who actually WANTS to be a primary caregiver to her children. Otherwise, she'll just get bitter and jaded over time and take it out on you by witholding sex, etc. So, the only woman who is worth marrying is a woman who actually wants to raise children, and who you think can do a good job of it. Forcing a shrew into a non-shrew box is a plan that is doomed to fail.

6. Women who both want to be good mothers and actually project to be good mothers have always known that good mothers can't be 70-hour a week career chicks or ppl who travel the world for business, and have self-selected career fields that either have flexible hours, or good part time options, or are the sorts of jobs that one can move in and out of without too much trouble. Teachers, nurses, ocupational therapists, etc.

7. Shrews fail at every level. They are often ambivilant about kids, and, even when committed, generally inclined to put career in front of kids in the short-term. Even if you can convince shrews to have kids at a proper age, they are FAR more likely to want to stick their young kids in all-day daycare. Those shrews that actually bite the bullet and are willing to leave their high-powered careers generally due so for financial reasons, and tend to be bitter and insecure about the whole thing. They can't help but feel ashamed that they're raising children rather than "putting their degree to good use", and often take it out on their husbands. And when it's time to get back in the workforce after the kids are school-aged, those shrews that have bothered to alter their careers to raise kids often find it extremely difficult to pick up their careers, leading to additional bitterness and dissatisfaction.

So why bother with all this bullshit? Just so you can have spirited debate about fiscal policy over the dinner table? Fuck that. I'll have those conversations with the shrews at work (or, better yet, men), and enjoy my cheerful, motherly, preschool teacher wife at home. HTFH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24365182)

Ps OP is Julia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24366767)

also, the rate of marriage slows down a lot once people hit their 30s, and this is more problematic since the rate of marriage has fallen a lot in the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24367023)

but seriously though lots of women in cush jobs are just lazy shits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24365856)

there is nothing wrong with working professional jobs, nor is there anything wrong with being a house wife. however, knowing something is making you miserable, but continuing to do it, just because a certain segment of society is telling you to "lean in" is a sign of extreme weakness, and this is why shrews are not wife material.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24367021)

wtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24367305)

also, the fake confident look in their eyes, hiding their extreme fear of aging and dying alone, and the extra wrinkles on their faces and thinning hair because of working some retarded corporate job, despite all the makeup and "designer" clothes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24369768)

Smart women who go to college and get good jobs after college (or even grad school) are fine as long as they realize that the work they're doing is bullshit (along with everyone else) and as long as they don't think that their purpose in life is to climb the corporate ladder. It's important for women to not care so much about career advancement that it gets in the way of taking care of their children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24367479)

the anti-thesis of being a shrew is being a woman who knows what she wants, and for 98% of women, that's a chill lifestyle with a family and children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24369891)

there are very few shrews IRL b/c being super into career over family works against female instincts. no woman considers herself successful w/o a family. but there is something in btwn a woman whose only ambition is to be a stay at home mom and the career shrew. every single one of my female friends end up in less strenous jobs once marriage and babies are on the horizon, but the girls never quit working completely if they live in high COL cities

the only couples i know where the woman has quit her job completely are ones where 1) the girl didn't bring in enough income to justify the cost of hiring a nanny/daycare 2) they live in a low/medium COL where the guy's income alone is enough to live comfortably.

there is no such thing as having it all. ideally, the woman can be a stay at home mom and raise the kids, but if you have a $700k mortgage and the woman makes $150k-200/year in a steady "mommy track" 9-5 job, it's a hard thing to give up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24370191)

once you're out, you're basically committed to being out for good or settling for significantly less income once you re-enter the workforce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24370233)

However, there are some ways around this. An MD can probably do this. Starting a business is a possibility as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24370243)

stfu, you are extremely fug, and all the striving it took to get your back office job didn't help.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2404541&forum_id=2#24370204)