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Stock Tip: BUY JCP (JC Penny)

Valuation is ridiculously low brothers. Bookmark this thread...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  12/26/13
lol it's going to be out of business in a month.
offensive magical parlor elastic band
  12/26/13
Lol brothers. More like $20 by years end (Currently at rough...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  12/26/13
LMAO it was hit extremely hard this holiday season. JCP is O...
offensive magical parlor elastic band
  12/26/13
just do woolworths bro
lavender cracking clown
  12/26/13
lol chase the markets brother, my strategy is to go where th...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  12/26/13
I HOAP you're right brother.
offensive magical parlor elastic band
  12/26/13
Best Buy - #1 national bricks and mortar retailer in its cat...
White Station
  12/26/13
JCP is hurting so bad in part because it brought in that app...
tan theatre death wish
  12/26/13
i could be wrong, but I think they brought back the same CEO...
Ultramarine Lodge International Law Enforcement Agency
  12/26/13
(man who owns Stafford work shirts)
bossy ruby corner
  12/26/13
**can't find a good pair of levis jeans amongst the racks an...
Ultramarine Lodge International Law Enforcement Agency
  12/26/13
wtf is wrong with stafford faggot
dashing internal respiration
  12/26/13
Lol.
coiffed shitlib
  12/27/13
brother, where can i buy it? not flame i seriously have neve...
twinkling jewess site
  12/26/13
Just go to the customer service desk at any jc penney retail...
rambunctious fuchsia hissy fit
  12/26/13
ty brother. how much stock should i buy?
twinkling jewess site
  12/26/13
As many certificates as they have in stock
Irradiated sienna pisswyrm sex offender
  12/26/13
protip- bring coupons
Aquamarine office mad-dog skullcap
  12/26/13
titcst ive been on dat jcp tip for some time brother
excitant stead
  12/26/13
who the fuck goes to jc penney
Coral Gay Wizard
  12/26/13
lol 57% of the float was shorted as of Dec 13th. The last ti...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  12/27/13
went long yesterday at 8.53. share price has stabilized, the...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/06/14
...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/11/14
were they priced like they were going bankrupt or something?...
translucent hell people who are hurt
  03/11/14
Decent bump today, but still trading around $9, just like yo...
Drunken adulterous turdskin hospital
  03/11/14
i'm not the OP. i went long on 3/6. has only had a modest bu...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/17/14
still buy in?
Stimulating territorial partner goal in life
  03/17/14
yeah still in. JCP still has a decent market share and reven...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/17/14
how much should i buy? have 10k to invest
Stimulating territorial partner goal in life
  03/17/14
Buy $15k on margin
ivory tripping persian principal's office
  03/17/14
bro i have 175k to invest, how much in index funds and how m...
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
$225k in JCP (use margin)
ivory tripping persian principal's office
  03/17/14
no way
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
i usually keep 80% of my portfolio in index funds and blue c...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/17/14
describe where your 80% is invested
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
Long term portfolio is mix of SPY DIA IWM and some b...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/17/14
whats all this nonsense abt tax efficient investments?
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
bro, i like where your head is at, what do you say we start ...
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
could this be a citi/boa gravy train?
Stimulating territorial partner goal in life
  03/17/14
THEY CALL IT RIDIN' THE GRAVY TRRAAAAAIIIIIEAEAHYEAEYAYEAAAA...
federal useless brakes dog poop
  03/17/14
I shop at JCP all the time. Very underrated store.
smoky supple pistol
  03/17/14
This. Bought tons of IZOD shirts and Chinos, get compliments...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  03/17/14
those shirts are so boxy
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
You can't be a twink, that's for sure.
smoky supple pistol
  03/17/14
(fattie)
sooty learning disabled karate
  03/17/14
I normally wear medium, large if its some Euro brand and sma...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  03/17/14
I've been watching JCP for some time to see if it's the Best...
metal locale
  03/17/14
bumpedy bump
multi-colored free-loading halford
  03/27/14
Should I take a small long position here? 7.74 (-9.15%)
flushed locus rigor
  04/11/14
how much are you thinking?
sooty learning disabled karate
  04/11/14
Very small, just speculative. Maybe 300 shares
flushed locus rigor
  04/11/14
I wouldn't. I'm the pumo who went long on 3/6 and I got out ...
multi-colored free-loading halford
  04/11/14
8.69
flushed locus rigor
  04/29/14
...
Disturbing new version step-uncle's house
  08/08/14
Up 16% from when I recommended a buy back in December. ...
Anal rebellious boiling water
  08/20/14
Why'd you go pumo you're a 180 poaster.
jet-lagged cream windowlicker trust fund
  08/20/14
not exactly the $20 you were predicting. that's probably bel...
crawly garrison boltzmann
  08/20/14
Stock price is $11.11 up from $8.96 at my recommendation!
Anal rebellious boiling water
  09/17/14
. . . and it's gone. $8.19 today on terrible guidance. Wil...
White Station
  10/09/14
They are in deep shit. Off pricers are killing them
gaped slap-happy orchestra pit
  10/28/14
7.34
Disturbing new version step-uncle's house
  10/28/14
Buddy of mine put $20,000 into JCP when it fell to $14 a yea...
gaped slap-happy orchestra pit
  10/28/14
Lol
Trip house sweet tailpipe
  10/05/15
fashion tip: buy clothes from JC Penney
Mauve mother church
  10/05/15
especially the graphic tees with the huge "JCP" pa...
cerebral national giraffe
  11/25/16
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Anal rebellious boiling water
  11/25/16


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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

Valuation is ridiculously low brothers. Bookmark this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714906)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: offensive magical parlor elastic band

lol it's going to be out of business in a month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714910)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

Lol brothers. More like $20 by years end (Currently at roughly $9)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714914)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: offensive magical parlor elastic band

LMAO it was hit extremely hard this holiday season. JCP is OUT.

http://kwgn.com/2013/11/29/struggling-j-c-penney-hopes-black-friday-will-provide-boost/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714924)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: lavender cracking clown

just do woolworths bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714941)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:25 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

lol chase the markets brother, my strategy is to go where the market will be, not where others are predicting it will go. Bookmark this page brother. JCP will turnaround like Best Buy did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714986)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: offensive magical parlor elastic band

I HOAP you're right brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24714993)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:39 PM
Author: White Station

Best Buy - #1 national bricks and mortar retailer in its category, stores built in prime locations, many within the last 10-20 years.

JCP - probably not even in the top 5 in its category, with a lineup of ageing shitty stores in dying malls. getting absolutely wrecked on every metric by Wal-Mart, Target, Kohl's Dillard's, and Macy's. Arguably competitive with Sears, Bon-Ton and Burlington Coat Factory, but fading fast.

The fact that you think the two are comparable in any way shows that you have done no research and are being reflexively contrarian. Sometimes people think that a stock is a giant pile of shit because the stock is a giant pile of shit, not because you're smarter than the whole world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717060)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:57 PM
Author: tan theatre death wish

JCP is hurting so bad in part because it brought in that apple dude who didn't understand retailing things other than high-end luxury goods to hipsters

If JCP has good management now (no idea), then it is possible they could stay afloat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717136)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 8:00 PM
Author: Ultramarine Lodge International Law Enforcement Agency

i could be wrong, but I think they brought back the same CEO that they had for decades before the Apple dood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717144)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:41 PM
Author: bossy ruby corner

(man who owns Stafford work shirts)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717067)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:47 PM
Author: Ultramarine Lodge International Law Enforcement Agency

**can't find a good pair of levis jeans amongst the racks and racks of wrangler jeans**

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717107)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 10:46 PM
Author: dashing internal respiration

wtf is wrong with stafford faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24718131)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 2:30 PM
Author: coiffed shitlib

Lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24721246)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: twinkling jewess site

brother, where can i buy it? not flame i seriously have never bought stocks before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717110)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:50 PM
Author: rambunctious fuchsia hissy fit

Just go to the customer service desk at any jc penney retail location.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717114)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 7:55 PM
Author: twinkling jewess site

ty brother. how much stock should i buy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24717127)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 10:31 PM
Author: Irradiated sienna pisswyrm sex offender

As many certificates as they have in stock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24718041)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 11:33 PM
Author: Aquamarine office mad-dog skullcap

protip- bring coupons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24718417)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 11:18 PM
Author: excitant stead

titcst

ive been on dat jcp tip for some time brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24718332)



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Date: December 26th, 2013 11:19 PM
Author: Coral Gay Wizard

who the fuck goes to jc penney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24718339)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

lol 57% of the float was shorted as of Dec 13th. The last time I saw a large company with short interest that high was Enron

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=JCP+Key+Statistics



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#24721244)



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Date: March 6th, 2014 12:22 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

went long yesterday at 8.53. share price has stabilized, they showed good earnings in Q4, and they fired the Apple guy and brought back the old CEO who seems to have things back on track. they still have similar revenues to their biggest competitor, Kohls, which is valued 4.5x higher right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25141019)



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Date: March 11th, 2014 9:57 AM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25169272)



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Date: March 11th, 2014 10:10 AM
Author: translucent hell people who are hurt

were they priced like they were going bankrupt or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25169305)



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Date: March 11th, 2014 10:11 AM
Author: Drunken adulterous turdskin hospital

Decent bump today, but still trading around $9, just like you noted 4 months ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25169310)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 1:54 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

i'm not the OP. i went long on 3/6. has only had a modest bump since then but all indications are that it's found the bottom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25206935)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 1:55 PM
Author: Stimulating territorial partner goal in life

still buy in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25206943)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:01 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

yeah still in. JCP still has a decent market share and revenues comparable to its competitors like kohls with lower cost of revenue, yet kohls's market cap is 4.5x higher. JCP's liabilities are also less than competitors like kohls. JCP brought back its former CEO last year, which is significant, and its holiday sales were pretty good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25206974)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:04 PM
Author: Stimulating territorial partner goal in life

how much should i buy? have 10k to invest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207011)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:07 PM
Author: ivory tripping persian principal's office

Buy $15k on margin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207027)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:06 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

bro i have 175k to invest, how much in index funds and how much in jcpenny? should i try an option K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207021)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:08 PM
Author: ivory tripping persian principal's office

$225k in JCP (use margin)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207032)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:10 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

no way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207050)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:14 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

i usually keep 80% of my portfolio in index funds and blue chips. i only risk 20% on shit like start-ups, growth stocks, and turnaroud stocks like JCP, BBRY, RAD. RAD is another turnaround stock that has paid off well for me over the past year. it still has much more room to climb. it too is trading at a fraction of its competitors (WAG and CVS), although RAD's issue is different than JCP since its saddled with massive long term debt. but its been able to pay the interest on its debt for the past few years and remain cash flow positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207064)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:22 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

describe where your 80% is invested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207116)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:28 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

Long term portfolio is mix of

SPY

DIA

IWM

and some blue chips like

F

3M

XOM

GOOG

this year i'm also holding

XLF

XLK

XLH

Was also in a couple of high-yield bond funds for a while until recently.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207146)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:31 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

whats all this nonsense abt tax efficient investments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207167)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:39 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

bro, i like where your head is at, what do you say we start a thread where we can remain pumo but still touch base abt this shit once a month or so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207194)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:08 PM
Author: Stimulating territorial partner goal in life

could this be a citi/boa gravy train?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207037)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:10 PM
Author: federal useless brakes dog poop

THEY CALL IT RIDIN' THE GRAVY TRRAAAAAIIIIIEAEAHYEAEYAYEAAAAAHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207048)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:09 PM
Author: smoky supple pistol

I shop at JCP all the time. Very underrated store.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207044)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:18 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

This. Bought tons of IZOD shirts and Chinos, get compliments all the time. Also wear them with my JCP loafers. OFS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207088)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:21 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

those shirts are so boxy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207111)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:24 PM
Author: smoky supple pistol

You can't be a twink, that's for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207128)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 2:32 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

(fattie)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207170)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 3:08 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

I normally wear medium, large if its some Euro brand and small for JCP shirts and they fit very well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25207315)



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Date: March 17th, 2014 10:10 PM
Author: metal locale

I've been watching JCP for some time to see if it's the Best Buy of 2014. It might be if enough people buy into the "turn around" story (all it takes is for a few institutions and retail investors and then it can take off). There were serious questions about it's ability to continue as a going concern last year, but it seems stable for now.

Long-term, JCP is dead in the water. In-store traffic is declining, malls are declining, their online sales and traffic aren't growing, or aren't growing fast enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25209776)



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Date: March 27th, 2014 12:57 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

bumpedy bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25271217)



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Date: April 11th, 2014 1:26 PM
Author: flushed locus rigor

Should I take a small long position here? 7.74 (-9.15%)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25366289)



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Date: April 11th, 2014 1:33 PM
Author: sooty learning disabled karate

how much are you thinking?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25366327)



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Date: April 11th, 2014 1:37 PM
Author: flushed locus rigor

Very small, just speculative. Maybe 300 shares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25366340)



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Date: April 11th, 2014 1:48 PM
Author: multi-colored free-loading halford

I wouldn't. I'm the pumo who went long on 3/6 and I got out of this on Wednesday as I kept reading more and more that all the hedge fund guys who led me into this investment in the first place had gotten out after concluding that JCP's prospects for turnaround were bleak. I saw no more reason to stay in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25366397)



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Date: April 29th, 2014 8:05 AM
Author: flushed locus rigor

8.69

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#25469093)



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Date: August 8th, 2014 3:27 PM
Author: Disturbing new version step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26088090)



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Date: August 20th, 2014 11:56 AM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

Up 16% from when I recommended a buy back in December.

Price December: 8.96

Today: 10.40

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26168943)



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Date: August 20th, 2014 12:02 PM
Author: jet-lagged cream windowlicker trust fund

Why'd you go pumo you're a 180 poaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26168977)



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Date: August 20th, 2014 12:02 PM
Author: crawly garrison boltzmann

not exactly the $20 you were predicting. that's probably below the expected return required for most people to invest in a bankruptcy candidate.

also, it's still looking pretty bleak for the company...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26168983)



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Date: September 17th, 2014 9:54 AM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water

Stock price is $11.11 up from $8.96 at my recommendation!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26344408)



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Date: October 9th, 2014 12:39 AM
Author: White Station

. . . and it's gone. $8.19 today on terrible guidance. Will be bankrupt in 2-3 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26483891)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 1:57 PM
Author: gaped slap-happy orchestra pit

They are in deep shit. Off pricers are killing them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26602930)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 10:06 AM
Author: Disturbing new version step-uncle's house

7.34

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26602000)



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Date: October 28th, 2014 1:56 PM
Author: gaped slap-happy orchestra pit

Buddy of mine put $20,000 into JCP when it fell to $14 a year ago.

I hope he sold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#26602920)



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Date: October 5th, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Trip house sweet tailpipe

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#28904327)



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Date: October 5th, 2015 3:16 PM
Author: Mauve mother church

fashion tip: buy clothes from JC Penney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#28904336)



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Date: November 25th, 2016 6:23 PM
Author: cerebral national giraffe

especially the graphic tees with the huge "JCP" painted over a profile silhouette of lincoln

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#31991404)



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Date: November 25th, 2016 6:13 PM
Author: Anal rebellious boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2452386&forum_id=2#31991369)