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In this passage, Evola brutally reams strivers then guts them:

strivers done here: "At this point it is necessary t...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
hellllooooo meeeeeeeeee
crimson wonderful useless brakes trump supporter
  02/12/14
this is true. that guy who publishes that magazine 'The Idl...
Supple Theater Stage
  02/12/14
i saw an "end of work"-style argument posted to fr...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
exactly. they're universally insane on the subject.
Supple Theater Stage
  02/12/14
http://i.imgur.com/hNes1lN.jpg
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
it's just sad. but also mysterious. if you go back 80-100+ y...
Supple Theater Stage
  02/12/14
That's where I struggle because people seemed to work pretty...
Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor
  02/12/14
Rofl you are an idiot
Cream plaza
  04/06/14
summary for a prole like me?
Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor
  02/12/14
marxism and randian capitalism both share profoundly flawed ...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
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Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor
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grizzly aromatic gay wizard
  02/12/14
STRONGLY encourage everyone to read the full chapter from th...
Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor
  02/12/14
it's good because evola gets deeply into various sorts of sp...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
And despite xo in the PM acknowledging this, earl and nutell...
Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor
  02/12/14
Evola portrays himself as an aristocrat and preached the vi...
Yellow indian lodge mad cow disease
  02/10/17
Surprise: slaves believe they are free
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  02/12/14
it goes beyond that; they believe that their slavery is an i...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/18/14
...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
striverheads fucked for life
Flatulent Shrine
  02/12/14
this is so much better than The Last Psychiatrist
irradiated shivering mexican home
  02/12/14
randian captialists, explain yourselves in light of evola's ...
Flatulent Shrine
  02/13/14
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impertinent hospital
  04/06/14
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demanding frozen forum
  02/14/14
evola is a god. here's a reading of the op. not so good ...
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  02/18/14
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carnelian motley alpha
  03/03/14
The major problem with this is that it ignores the bottom 90...
Silver Underhanded Pisswyrm
  04/06/14
"Work will set you free" , lisped the feminized...
impertinent hospital
  04/06/14
I'm open to the idea that we place too much emphasis on work...
Silver Underhanded Pisswyrm
  04/06/14
did Evola talk about "self-actualization" or did h...
Curious naked space ape
  02/10/17
This is a philosophy of the life of aristocrats (aka US). Th...
boyish saffron cruise ship hairy legs
  10/21/17
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concupiscible blue tanning salon
  05/02/16
i've had this exact thought and this makes me want to read m...
Curious naked space ape
  02/10/17
^ ^ ^ guy who escaped "work"
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  10/21/17


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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:43 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

strivers done here:

"At this point it is necessary to denounce another pathological fixation of the economic age, or one of its fundamental slogans: I am referring to the modern superstition of work that has become common to both left-wing and right-wing movements.

Just like the notion of “the people,” “work” too has become one of those sacred cows and intangible entities that modern man dares only to praise and exalt. One of the characteristics of the economic era, considered in its most plebeian and shallow aspect, is this kind of self-inflicted sadism that consists of glorifying work as an ethical value and as an essential duty, and in conceiving every form of activity as some kind of work.

A future and perhaps more normal mankind will regard the notion in which the means becomes an end as a peculiar perversion.

Thus, work ceases to signify something that is imposed only in view of material needs of existence, and to which no more room should be given than is required according to the individual and the status of his rank; on the contrary, work is absolutized and seen as a value in itself, and is associated simultaneously with the myth of paroxysmal and productive activity.

Moreover, we come to a real inversion. The term "work" has always designated the lowest forms of human activity, those that are more exclusively conditioned by the economic factor.

It is illegitimate to label as “work” anything that is not reduced to these forms; rather, the word to be used is action: action, not work, is what is performed by the leader, the explorer, the ascetic, the pure scientist, the warrior, the artist, the diplomat, the theologian, the one who makes or breaks a law, the one who is motivated by an elementary passion or guided by a principle.

But while every normal civilization, thanks to its upward orientation, intended to bestow a character of action, creation, and "art" even upon work (see, for instance, the corporations in the ancient world), exactly the opposite is happening in the present economic civilization: even action (or whatever is still worthy of the term) is increasingly attributed the character of "work" (i.e., an economic and proletarian character), almost out of a masochistic pleasure in degradation and contamination."

(pp. 174-5)

http://www.moreright.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/economy10.png

http://www.moreright.net/julius-evola-on-work-and-the-demonic-nature-of-the-economy/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001369)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:47 AM
Author: crimson wonderful useless brakes trump supporter

hellllooooo meeeeeeeeee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001388)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:49 AM
Author: Supple Theater Stage

this is true.

that guy who publishes that magazine 'The Idler' has books that are full of essays like this. americans in particular cannot wrap their minds around this idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001399)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:51 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

i saw an "end of work"-style argument posted to free republic once and they went into meltdown and basically called it satanism because apparently the bible advocates hard work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001408)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:52 AM
Author: Supple Theater Stage

exactly. they're universally insane on the subject.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001412)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 1:57 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

http://i.imgur.com/hNes1lN.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001423)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:06 AM
Author: Supple Theater Stage

it's just sad. but also mysterious. if you go back 80-100+ years ago, people seemed to better understand the point of the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001445)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:12 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor

That's where I struggle because people seemed to work pretty hard, they just had better protections to make that work more valuable to their family

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001461)



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Date: April 6th, 2014 9:56 AM
Author: Cream plaza

Rofl you are an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25333647)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:00 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor

summary for a prole like me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001429)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:04 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

marxism and randian capitalism both share profoundly flawed assumptions regarding the primacy of work and labor as fundaments of human social order. as a result, "work" and working becomes its own moral end, which is drastically unhealthy to the spirit and would have been considered insane by most older moral systems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001438)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:48 AM
Author: grizzly aromatic gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001558)



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Date: February 26th, 2014 5:15 AM
Author: concupiscible blue tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25090254)



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Date: April 5th, 2014 8:39 PM
Author: orchid charismatic travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25331441)



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Date: May 2nd, 2016 4:26 PM
Author: sadistic magenta boistinker roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#30391859)



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Date: February 10th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: dashing kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#32591457)



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Date: February 10th, 2017 2:17 PM
Author: cobalt station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#32591467)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 2:02 AM
Author: boyish saffron cruise ship hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#34492956)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:30 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001503)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:48 AM
Author: grizzly aromatic gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001559)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:51 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor

STRONGLY encourage everyone to read the full chapter from the link OP provided. very illuminating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001570)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 3:01 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

it's good because evola gets deeply into various sorts of spiritualisms in other writings that can be off-putting to people looking for political/social stuff. but in this and some of his other economic writings, he is more direct and grounded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001605)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 2:52 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal puppy parlor

And despite xo in the PM acknowledging this, earl and nutella and the hoard of posters tomorrow would be like "OMG POORS!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001572)



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Date: February 10th, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: Yellow indian lodge mad cow disease

Evola portrays himself as an aristocrat and preached the virtues of an aristocratic spirit: he hated the proles just like Nutella.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#32591824)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 3:02 AM
Author: Bisexual nursing home

Surprise: slaves believe they are free

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25001608)



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Date: February 18th, 2014 12:59 AM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

it goes beyond that; they believe that their slavery is an inevitable function of the "natural" order of things without considering the amount of artifice behind the actual system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25039720)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 3:41 PM
Author: Flatulent Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25003988)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 6:38 PM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

striverheads fucked for life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25005119)



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Date: February 12th, 2014 6:41 PM
Author: irradiated shivering mexican home

this is so much better than The Last Psychiatrist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25005136)



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Date: February 13th, 2014 3:37 PM
Author: Flatulent Shrine

randian captialists, explain yourselves in light of evola's ideas here. you're basically not fully human.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25010872)



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Date: April 6th, 2014 9:17 AM
Author: impertinent hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25333541)



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Date: February 14th, 2014 8:57 PM
Author: demanding frozen forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25020448)



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Date: February 18th, 2014 4:45 AM
Author: Smoky theatre

evola is a god.

here's a reading of the op. not so good because the guy has an accent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQxkVSQ9LdU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25040239)



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Date: March 3rd, 2014 6:16 PM
Author: carnelian motley alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25124465)



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Date: April 6th, 2014 9:35 AM
Author: Silver Underhanded Pisswyrm

The major problem with this is that it ignores the bottom 90% of people who are more or less incapable of performing higher "actions" as the author calls it. These people need to seek ways in which to bring themselves meaningful satisfaction with their lives. Their "work" is a primary source. You can't advocate the tearing down of work as a virtue in this context as, increasingly, the alternative means of satisfaction (family, faith, etc) are being eliminated by society and the state. They will be left with nothing.

As an example, look at retarded people who are given the opportunity to perform menial work tasks and what that does to their outlook in comparison to their idle peers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25333574)



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Date: April 6th, 2014 9:53 AM
Author: impertinent hospital

"Work will set you free"

, lisped the feminized materialistic Jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25333638)



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Date: April 6th, 2014 10:47 AM
Author: Silver Underhanded Pisswyrm

I'm open to the idea that we place too much emphasis on work to the point of fetishizing it. However, I only see that argument applying to the top decile. Self actualization of the type the OP talks about is probably beyond the grasp of anyone below that insofar as you move away from "work" and into "action".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#25333785)



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Date: February 10th, 2017 2:45 PM
Author: Curious naked space ape

did Evola talk about "self-actualization" or did he talk about art and self-expression?

even an idiot can dance in the moonlight or sing a song of sweet melancholy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#32591779)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 2:05 AM
Author: boyish saffron cruise ship hairy legs

This is a philosophy of the life of aristocrats (aka US). The "90 %" of people whose IQ is low enough they aren't capable of doing what they want or anything complex functionally don't exist in this conversation. They are background characters in the lives of those who matter.

They feel pain, they are mostly good people, and they are vital to our survival, but in the context of this discussion they don't matter because they don't even have an opinion on these sorts of things anyways and will do whatever "we" decide for them. For example, "we" decided to do democracy for the past few hundred years and force them to vote...clearly a mistake, but you get the gist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#34492963)



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Date: May 2nd, 2016 4:21 PM
Author: concupiscible blue tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#30391836)



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Date: February 10th, 2017 2:36 PM
Author: Curious naked space ape

i've had this exact thought and this makes me want to read more of his ... writings.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#32591666)



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Date: October 21st, 2017 1:33 AM
Author: frisky site associate

^

^

^

guy who escaped "work"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2492328&forum_id=2#34492804)