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Hillary Clinton 2016: off to a horrible start

1) "dead broke" http://www.washingtonpost.com/...
splenetic market
  06/12/14
180 libs eating they're own so if you were not in support ...
aphrodisiac striped hyena
  06/12/14
Gays weren't even in support of gay marriage in the 90s.
Electric frum coffee pot crackhouse
  06/12/14
cr gay marriage is literally fucking ridiculous. that we'...
exciting forum mexican
  06/12/14
True Same sex couples = Civil Unions Traditional coupl...
histrionic police squad
  06/12/14
love that fucking, hypocritcal shitlib shitargument on gay m...
buff autistic abode
  06/12/14
Benghazi : Hilldawg '16 :: Iran-Contra : Bush '88 Things ...
Maroon provocative mad-dog skullcap
  06/12/14
(bill clinton, desperately wanting that wrinkly cunt out of ...
Rebellious sapphire clown school cafeteria
  06/12/14
Taken as a compliment, regardless of how it was intended.
Maroon provocative mad-dog skullcap
  06/12/14
You realize she is going to win in an even bigger landslide ...
Drunken circlehead sandwich
  06/12/14
(Guy who lives in the real world)
Puce vibrant dilemma new version
  06/12/14
I hate this bitch Hilary and it will be a disaster if a woma...
Lemon kitchen shitlib
  06/12/14
Meh, I'm not so sure. I think O'Bummer has made such a hu...
histrionic police squad
  06/12/14
(retard)
racy nubile gunner
  06/12/14
I think this is a fair point. There is a whole generation b...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
Lol at thinking the hoap and change crowd will ever vote rep...
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
I didn't say that, dumb dumb. They'll likely stay home and ...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
They'll come out in record numbers to elect the first female...
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
OK, benzo.
splenetic market
  06/13/14
(guy living in candy land)
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
This is a persistent reptile myth. Dem voters do not feel bu...
mischievous mind-boggling pit
  06/13/14
This is a persistent shitlib myth. Dem voters do feel burne...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
Only in reptile dreams is this true
racy nubile gunner
  06/16/14
Reptile here. This is prob right. Millennials are content re...
180 resort
  06/16/14
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titillating orchestra pit
  08/15/17
you know it's going to be an entertaining political cycle on...
contagious grizzly native codepig
  06/12/14
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Puce vibrant dilemma new version
  06/13/14
I don't think she can win the primary. She's fucking up lef...
splenetic market
  06/12/14
they're just getting it out of their system. dems don't have...
Bipolar giraffe
  06/12/14
Who will run against her? I think people are genuinely afra...
histrionic police squad
  06/12/14
people havent been afaid of the clintons since 2008
vengeful glittery menage
  06/12/14
You're an idiot if you don't think the lib machine will be o...
cowardly multi-colored ticket booth milk
  06/12/14
tbf, the TG interview was not a fuckup. she actually made me...
spectacular crystalline useless brakes library
  06/12/14
Retard schtick?
racy nubile gunner
  06/16/14
Benghazi alone is enough to sink her entire campaign. Dems ...
racy nubile gunner
  06/12/14
(Reptile still crying into his RE-ELECT CANTOR T-Shirt)
Odious Mauve Area Queen Of The Night
  06/12/14
Ho Lee Fuk your flame just broke, bro.
splenetic market
  06/13/14
Brother Petumkin I was conversing with the box tp and I told...
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
Hey benzo, why are you too chickenshit to use your regular m...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
Answer the question, has box taken the 6 seconds needed to p...
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
A diseased faggot won't engage with his normal moniker now t...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
(guy still waiting for box to ping him back)
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
(guy still dying of AIDS)
splenetic market
  06/13/14
(guy who caught HIV from having anal sex with his priest as ...
racy nubile gunner
  06/13/14
GROSS: “You know I’m just saying, I’m sorry – I just want to...
Ocher wonderful jew international law enforcement agency
  06/13/14
Gross absolutely face fucked HRC and she lost her cool. If ...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
lollll
umber charismatic half-breed
  06/13/14
She and Bill are still the most popular politicians nationwi...
awkward very tactful house trump supporter
  06/13/14
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/209167-poll...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/ge...
awkward very tactful house trump supporter
  06/13/14
Just calling out your bullshit, brother. No need to get def...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
You linked to one poll and even that poll had Obama with a h...
awkward very tactful house trump supporter
  06/13/14
Brother, Obama is in the tanks contrary to what you were say...
splenetic market
  06/13/14
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  08/15/17
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Cruel-hearted Aqua Blood Rage Windowlicker
  08/15/17
shitlibs gonna shitlib, but lets face it, she is going to wi...
marvelous space
  06/13/14
http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-tapes/
splenetic market
  06/16/14
LOL @ any republican standing a chance against Hitlery, S...
Red Trip Theater Stage Love Of Her Life
  06/16/14
Brother, the point of this thread is Hillary isn't looking g...
splenetic market
  06/16/14
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  06/16/14


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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:05 PM
Author: splenetic market

1) "dead broke"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/06/12/dead-broke-a-deep-dive-into-the-clintons-finances/

2) Benghazi

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/06/10/abc-newss-diane-sawyer-destroys-hillary-rodham-clinton-on-benghazi/

3) Gay marriage

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/06/12/clinton_gets_testy_with_npr_reporter_asking_if_she_always_supported_gay_marriage.html

4) "reset button"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hillary-russian-reset-brilliant-stroke_794974.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25737955)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:10 PM
Author: aphrodisiac striped hyena

180 libs eating they're own

so if you were not in support of gay marriage IN THE 90S your fuct today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25737973)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:31 PM
Author: Electric frum coffee pot crackhouse

Gays weren't even in support of gay marriage in the 90s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738098)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 6:06 PM
Author: exciting forum mexican

cr

gay marriage is literally fucking ridiculous. that we've let kike academics, politicians and hollywood queers force it down are throats is a goddamn joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738298)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 9:55 PM
Author: histrionic police squad

True

Same sex couples = Civil Unions

Traditional couples = Mostly Uncivil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739712)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 9:57 PM
Author: buff autistic abode

love that fucking, hypocritcal shitlib shitargument on gay marriage = it's not flip-flopping, it's not "playing the game", it's EVOLVING on a position

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739725)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 9:57 PM
Author: Maroon provocative mad-dog skullcap

Benghazi : Hilldawg '16 :: Iran-Contra : Bush '88

Things turned out OK for Bush that year. Granted, this is an insanely narrow point of comparison, but I just don't understand how the GOP still thinks it can turn Benghazi into the biggest foreign policy mishap since the Bay of Pigs. DON'T MAKE NO SENSE, YO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739726)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:11 PM
Author: Rebellious sapphire clown school cafeteria

(bill clinton, desperately wanting that wrinkly cunt out of the house so that he can fuck Clinton Foundation interns and chelsea's hot friends)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739830)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:14 PM
Author: Maroon provocative mad-dog skullcap

Taken as a compliment, regardless of how it was intended.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739866)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:20 PM
Author: Drunken circlehead sandwich

You realize she is going to win in an even bigger landslide than Obama/Romney right? There is no way the next president is not a woman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738025)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:23 PM
Author: Puce vibrant dilemma new version

(Guy who lives in the real world)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738043)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:35 PM
Author: Lemon kitchen shitlib

I hate this bitch Hilary and it will be a disaster if a woman becomes POTUS, but given the current demographics its almost impossible for the Reptiles to win. Just look at the EC map. They are fighting over places like VA, NC, CO, NV. Georgia and AZ might be in play. They basically have to clean house on all the swing states just to fucking have a chance, and then you have to ensure you keep PA, WI, OH, FL. It is uphill cause they are so reptile and unpopular.

The truth is that a pile of shit could win the POTUS in 2016 for the Dems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738129)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 9:58 PM
Author: histrionic police squad

Meh, I'm not so sure.

I think O'Bummer has made such a huge turdfest of everything that the electorate will be moar PURPLE than blue, come election time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739729)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:14 PM
Author: racy nubile gunner

(retard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739862)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:45 AM
Author: splenetic market

I think this is a fair point. There is a whole generation burned by HOAP and CHAENG that won't buy into HRC's bullshit the second time around, and I suspect many independents have had enough of the left.

One thing the shitlibs need to keep in mind is that they are confined to a very large echo chamber. The MSM is provably leftist. This same engine that catapulted a man with no resume into POTUS is already cutting her off at the knees, and I wouldn't be surprised to see leftist lemmings going along with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742393)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:55 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Lol at thinking the hoap and change crowd will ever vote reptile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742431)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:56 AM
Author: splenetic market

I didn't say that, dumb dumb. They'll likely stay home and that obviously won't help HRC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742436)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:59 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

They'll come out in record numbers to elect the first female president. The president who will probably legalize weed and more promote more kinky sex. You don't seem to understand millennials at all. They won't stay home for Hillary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742449)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:01 AM
Author: splenetic market

OK, benzo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742458)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:01 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

(guy living in candy land)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742462)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:09 AM
Author: mischievous mind-boggling pit

This is a persistent reptile myth. Dem voters do not feel burned by hoap and change.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742476)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:10 AM
Author: splenetic market

This is a persistent shitlib myth. Dem voters do feel burned by hoap and change.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742482)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:08 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Only in reptile dreams is this true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25759227)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:12 AM
Author: 180 resort

Reptile here. This is prob right. Millennials are content receiving stuff like SSM under Obama. Their economic lot will remain unaffected, they'll still blame Republicans and corps for the fact that they still live at home, and a new round of vague promises from HRC will lead them to the polls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25759245)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 10:00 PM
Author: titillating orchestra pit

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#33998331)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:30 PM
Author: contagious grizzly native codepig

you know it's going to be an entertaining political cycle on XO when the reptiles are this desperate this early in the game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738092)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:27 AM
Author: Puce vibrant dilemma new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742557)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 5:34 PM
Author: splenetic market

I don't think she can win the primary. She's fucking up left and right without any pressure, and even the shitlibbiest rags are grilling her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25738121)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 9:58 PM
Author: Bipolar giraffe

they're just getting it out of their system. dems don't have anyone better and everyone will fall in line if they need to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739730)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:01 PM
Author: histrionic police squad

Who will run against her? I think people are genuinely afraid to cross the Clintons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739746)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:02 PM
Author: vengeful glittery menage

people havent been afaid of the clintons since 2008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739753)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:02 PM
Author: cowardly multi-colored ticket booth milk

You're an idiot if you don't think the lib machine will be out in FULL-FORCE for Hilary in the Dem primary. Twitter, Facebook, blogs, the MSM, etc will all be out hounding people who don't support her as "misogynists" and she will roll to the nomination.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739755)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:05 PM
Author: spectacular crystalline useless brakes library

tbf, the TG interview was not a fuckup. she actually made me like her after that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739783)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 11:09 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Retard schtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25759231)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 10:13 PM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Benghazi alone is enough to sink her entire campaign. Dems are completely fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25739848)



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Date: June 12th, 2014 11:08 PM
Author: Odious Mauve Area Queen Of The Night

(Reptile still crying into his RE-ELECT CANTOR T-Shirt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25740415)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:46 AM
Author: splenetic market

Ho Lee Fuk your flame just broke, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742398)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:57 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Brother Petumkin I was conversing with the box tp and I told her to contact you. Has she pinged you back yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742437)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 9:58 AM
Author: splenetic market

Hey benzo, why are you too chickenshit to use your regular moniker? Are you faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742443)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:01 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

Answer the question, has box taken the 6 seconds needed to ping back your sorry ass? then state your IQ, or else I'll be unable to engage you further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742459)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:02 AM
Author: splenetic market

A diseased faggot won't engage with his normal moniker now that he can't shitmod, why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742464)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:03 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

(guy still waiting for box to ping him back)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742465)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:04 AM
Author: splenetic market

(guy still dying of AIDS)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742467)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:06 AM
Author: racy nubile gunner

(guy who caught HIV from having anal sex with his priest as a boy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742472)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:06 AM
Author: Ocher wonderful jew international law enforcement agency

GROSS: “You know I’m just saying, I’m sorry – I just want to clarify what I was saying – no, I was saying that you maybe really believed this all along, but, you know believed in gay marriage all along, but felt for political reasons America wasn’t ready yet and you couldn’t say it. That’s what I was thinking.”

Libs are truly unhinged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742471)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:07 AM
Author: splenetic market

Gross absolutely face fucked HRC and she lost her cool. If she can't keep it in her pants on NPR how's she going to handle hostile debates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742473)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:19 AM
Author: umber charismatic half-breed

lollll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742512)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:19 AM
Author: awkward very tactful house trump supporter

She and Bill are still the most popular politicians nationwide. Even Obama, with his mediocre approval ratings, is still better liked than every recognizable GOP politician. The GOP is in disarray and the base absolutely detests any position that would be seen as palatable to the national electorate. Barring a major recession, Hillary will cruise and will improve on Obama's numbers. None of your three "scandals/errors" will be major campaign issues in 2016.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742513)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:20 AM
Author: splenetic market

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/209167-poll-obama-just-as-unpopular-as-bush-43#ixzz34S1EKhmB

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/gallup-majority-says-obama-not-honest-and-trustworthy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742515)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:35 AM
Author: awkward very tactful house trump supporter

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_christie_vs_clinton-3766.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_clinton-3825.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_bush_vs_clinton-3827.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742590)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:36 AM
Author: splenetic market

Just calling out your bullshit, brother. No need to get defensive!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742594)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:41 AM
Author: awkward very tactful house trump supporter

You linked to one poll and even that poll had Obama with a higher favorability rating than GWB and the same unfavorable rating as GWB. 90-year old George Bush Sr. is viewed more favorably than Obama. The GOP's future looks bright!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742616)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 11:13 AM
Author: splenetic market

Brother, Obama is in the tanks contrary to what you were saying. That's the only point I'm making here. You don't need to get all faggot on me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742766)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 9:54 PM
Author: at-the-ready vivacious foreskin

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#33998270)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 9:58 PM
Author: bateful public bath cuckold

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#33998309)



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Date: August 15th, 2017 10:03 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted Aqua Blood Rage Windowlicker

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#33998369)



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Date: June 13th, 2014 10:36 AM
Author: marvelous space

shitlibs gonna shitlib, but lets face it, she is going to win. if you thought the "war on women" rhetoric was ridiculous in 2012, you haven't seen anything yet. remember, in 2008 this was still a semi-sane country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25742595)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 9:14 AM
Author: splenetic market

http://freebeacon.com/politics/the-hillary-tapes/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25758791)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 9:44 AM
Author: Red Trip Theater Stage Love Of Her Life

LOL @ any republican standing a chance against Hitlery,

She might get burned in the primary again. She's old as fuck. Also, Elizabeth Warren is a totally new brand of left wing that might be appealing to the base of women and minorities. The primary system does not favor Hitlery - someone like warren could easily go into those shitstates and make an impact early.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25758871)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:52 AM
Author: splenetic market

Brother, the point of this thread is Hillary isn't looking good for Dems in 2016. She hasn't even announced and the shitpile is already neck deep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25759168)



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Date: June 16th, 2014 10:59 AM
Author: 180 resort

Iraq yet another foreign policy failure for the Obama admin and Hilary State Dep't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2591913&forum_id=2#25759203)