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Date: April 5th, 2015 1:28 PM Author: Submissive adventurous principal's office friendly grandma
I wrote this in another thread about height, after two people in the past 24 hours alluded to my not fucking black eyeliner (and opting for oral sex). I figure I'd set the record straight about her, once and for all.
There was plenty of oral sex earlier on, but I didn't like getting my dick chewed on by someone with rabbit teeth so I guess it was more of a one-sided thing. She never figured out how to give me a good blow job. Or cared. That is the type of person she is. Sue me for going down on her a bunch of times, she seemed to like it and ask for it. It's not like that was for me.
Eventually I grew tired of that shit and progressed to that thing that a lot of guys have told me they did with virgins as teenagers, rubbing my slimy dick all over her vag, but never penetrating. That was the main thing I did with her, and sometimes I would shoot my hot load on her face. Why would I want to take her virginity and get someone like that more attached to me? That was my fear - that, or that I would fuck up and get her pregnant. It turns out that after the relationship was over, and she was fucking around with someone else, she made a bunch of calls to Planned Parenthood, so maybe I was justified in my fears and someone did get her pregnant. I know she made those calls because I used to have her on my cell phone plan and still hadn't transferred her off yet.
Something about her was not right. From the very beginning it was a fucked up relationship, with her unhinged Palestinian dad calling me up like an ape and telling me he was going to send ISIS or Al Qaeda or whoever to come and blow my head off, her putting me in a position where I felt obligated to take her in and have her live with me, and then taking her all over the place to try to help her get into a college that would give her aid. More about that later.
She had the maturity level of a preteen girl, which is why I felt she would get too attached if I popped her cherry. She was also so fucking tight, I didn't even know how I would fit my dick inside there without causing her to bleed to death or cutting off the circulation to my dick. I figured a time would come when she would tell me she wanted to try that. I didn't want to be the guy who pushed her into something like that, when I knew this relationship with a child was already onerous enough. At some point, it didn't matter anymore, because I had transitioned from being her teen lover to being her surrogate father.
That surrogate father relationship lasted for most of her college. I was always taking trips out to NY, much more than she'd come out here, because she'd put down my home and the place I grew up. I spent all my free time with her, taking her out to restaurants, grocery shopping with her, buying her clothes, anything she said she needed because I had money and I didn't know what to expect from a healthy relationship with a woman. It was a really, really fucked up relationship, but it was my first and like so many people, I didn't know anything. Looking back, I used to feel ashamed that I had let her take advantage of me like that, but my mom always bossed my dad around so I just thought all women were like this. I thank God I learned this so that I actually know what to look for in a woman now. Now when I look back, I don't feel ashamed because in spite of all the times I let her take advantage of me, I made more choices with my brain and not my dick.
She was an emotionally and socially impaired brat. For the entire length of our relationship, it was not rare to wake up and find that she had leaked menstrual fluid all over the bed - it's like she didn't know how to control herself and no one had taught her. You should have seen her having conversations with her roommates or other people; she had no idea how to actually engage in a conversation with someone besides me, which is why she had no friends. She didn't make me feel good about myself; this 5'1" girl would regularly tell me I was too short and too thin. She was also no fun at all. She would literally run away from dogs when she'd see them, and used that as the excuse for why she consented to see my parents like eight times in the four or so years we were together. Freak. They hated her from the beginning, and I wish I had actually listened to their advice.
It gets worse. I stupidly co-signed her loans when I was going through my infatuation period with her. I co-signed about $35k in loans for her because she couldn't find anyone else to do it, and it was also a big pissing contest between me and her parents. They would never give her any help, because they wanted to control her and force her to come back home and go to a community college, which was cheap for them. It was not only important to me to help her, but also to spite them, because they were assholes and they were Palestinian.
She always promised me she'd never let me make payments on her loans, and at the time I had heard about this Sallie Mae cosigner release program that allows you to release cosigners after two years. I figured my risk was two years of payments, right? Wrong. The program is a fraud and it's all subject to underwriting, even after you meet the requirements. Needless to say, I ended up having to pay for her college loans, and she never offered to pay a dime even after she got a job. It's been about $10k in the past 4 years.
Fortunately, I had her sign a promissory note to pay, so I got a lawyer and sued her. I sued her to force her to make good on the note, and to try to obtain wage garnishment if she didn't start making payments. Hopefully that works out. Again, another example of what a terrible, selfish person she is, forcing me to sue her to get her to pay for her own college.
If I were to do it all over again, I would punish her ugly vag until she would be knocked unconscious, but this was my first relationship, so what the hell did I know? I am a nice person who has a habit of placing other people's needs before his own, and frankly it pisses me off that this cunt went around trying to embarrass me on the board while I was supporting her, taking her around the world, and basically her only real-world friend. What did I do to deserve that? What did she ever do for me? Or anyone?
She's an awful person. Pure sociopath, and I know that she's going to have a miserable life because she is missing something inside of her. Maybe if I were 6'1" she would have respected me more.
~ THE END ~
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Date: April 5th, 2015 1:32 PM Author: cerebral faggotry
who is black eyeliner?
how tall are you?
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Date: April 5th, 2015 1:37 PM Author: Vigorous Space Candlestick Maker
And you let her remain a mod until last week!
It is amazing how self centered and narcissistic xo women can be.
Though to be fair she is not 5'1 - maaaybe 5' flat.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27624621)
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Date: April 5th, 2015 1:38 PM Author: sticky diverse feces
Rach I am really sorry to read this but the period on bed thing is common for gals with vicious flow i have ruined 2 mattress covers.
She was not very good to you and you must just learn from it all. You will find someone great I am sure.
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Date: August 2nd, 2015 4:14 PM Author: fighting set rigpig
That's the one thing I was going to comment on too.
Sometimes your period starts in the middle of the night and you're a deep sleeper. And sometimes you stretch in an odd position so that the pad isn't lined up perfectly in front of the flow.
It happens.
I sympathize with everything else. I remember when she was involved with a different poster here and was always talking about it on the board. Seemed kind of weird to be that mean - i assumed it was flame.
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Date: April 5th, 2015 1:47 PM Author: Vigorous Space Candlestick Maker
Yeah most of it sounds like standard selfish woman.
And based on the mooching with bane, that was no surprise.
Her Benzo like hysterical vindictiveness made it all so much worse though.
I cant imagine what went through her head to justify forcing him to pay her loans and then sue her. Maybe she just didnt have the money. How did she frame the narrative such that in her head "yes he should pay it - fuck I am not paying her back"
Where does that come from?
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Date: April 5th, 2015 2:12 PM Author: curious sickened voyeur shrine
That doesn't surprise me, there's been a number of situations where female interests is inversely correlated with my own. Freaking women; society does a pretty bad job teaching many men how they actually operate.
Where is lisa nowadays? Tell her to come back here
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27624802) |
Date: April 5th, 2015 2:24 PM Author: talented theater stage cumskin
Bel was one of my few xoxo enemies and I am glad for it!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27624844) |
Date: April 5th, 2015 2:33 PM Author: mint faggot firefighter
Not flame.
I used to talk to BLack Eyeliner on AIM back in 2004 or so. She did say Rach was like a father figure who's always telling her what she can and cannot do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27624897) |
Date: April 5th, 2015 4:43 PM Author: Arrogant gay wizard area
You're a good bro and her not paying her loans back is BS. I hope you get every penny + interest and legal expenses back.
But just a few things I wanted to note because I don't think you're looking at this from a healthy point of view, and if you look at it this way it'll mess with you in future relationships:
- Your height had nothing to do with anything. Seriously. Height can keep you from getting chicks. She offered to have sex with you and you refused. You listed your reasons above, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, there's nothing that being taller would get you that you couldn't have already gotten. And you know me, I'm a short bro too.
- She was immature but then again, she was very young and she did have a personality that exacerbated that. I was in the same boat in my relationship. Mandy wouldn't have gone to college, let alone grad school if I hadn't managed the entire thing, from the SAT to the applications to helping select a major, etc. For law school I got on the law school train because I was helping her prep for the LSAT. My point is that it isn't just Bel, a lot of chicks view their bf/husband as basically their new daddy. There are negatives to this but also positives. That is the traditionally "feminine" role. Your alternative is a modern female who will throw feminism in your face every time anything happens that she feels is "unequal."
- While that relationship obviously went to hell in a handbasket, it probably isn't good that you're this mad this long after. You really need a new gf and focusing on this is probably counter-productive to making that happen. I'm not saying you shouldn't sue her to get what is yours, but for the rest, saying "fuck it, what's done is done" is probably the best path forward. Learn from this, but don't dwell on it.
- Finally, never ever turn down a girl for sex if you expect the relationship not to immediately end. Yeah, she could have gotten pregnant, but that's life and it isn't all that likely. Yeah, she would have gotten clingier, but then again, you seem upset that she wasn't nice enough to you which she likely would have been if you slept with her. Women expect men to try to pressure them into sex. If you not only don't pressure but turn them down that is the mark of doom.
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Date: April 5th, 2015 5:31 PM Author: Arrogant gay wizard area
Yeah, you and I are on the same page. And yeah, I get that a lot was wrong and by the time it became a real issue the writing was on the wall.
Did your parents really spend years telling you to avoid sex? Can't say my parents ever did that. They beat it into me that I should never get a girl pregnant, but they basically assumed I'd try to bang any decent looking girl I was around. Maybe it is a Russian parent thing. Now, with my sisters they were traditionally conservative. Russians are all about the double gender standard in this scenario. My impression of Jews was that they were much less hard on the girls but also didn't care if the boys messed around. Am I wrong?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27625762)
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Date: April 5th, 2015 5:15 PM Author: Submissive adventurous principal's office friendly grandma
I wouldn't blame my dating failures on my height, but it's silly to pretend it isn't a disadvantage. Girls post on their personal ads all the time that they prefer guys of a certain minimum height threshold. Black eyeliner even said as much to me, and she was 5' tall. How many others are just trying to be polite by not coming out and saying it, but privately have the same sentiments?
At the same time I know aspie people I'm friendly with in my area who have trolled Okcupid and gotten date after date. I'm not really aspie, but what they have on me is height. A lot of women just respond to that shit.
My lack of dating has more to do with me spending much of my twenties either in a relationship with Bel, or in Allentown, Pennsylvania, or in a yeshiva. I'm sure if I were more of a player, I would be able to find someone to poke. But should I lie to myself and just try to bed anything, even if I'm not interested at all? I'm just in an area where almost everyone is either married, a not-so-interesting prole, or not my age. People leave this area and I haven't. That's my fault and I take responsibility for that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27625690) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 5:22 PM Author: Arrogant gay wizard area
People say crap in relationships that hurt people based on stuff they know the other person is insecure. It is a low blow, a crappy way to settle arguments, and generally not cool, but that is life. Bel KNEW that these were your insecurities and used them accordingly. But rest assured that if she truly couldn't stand someone with those characteristics then she wouldn't have been with you. As you say, there are personal ads that have minimum height criteria, but those are minimums to date. For most women, there are some things that are minimums - but if you're dating someone for years then rest assured that you have cleared that hurdle.
You went to a Yeshiva? What? Had no idea.
"But should I lie to myself and just try to bed anything, even if I'm not interested at all?"
Honestly, I think you should get laid and should do what you need to do to make that happen. I think it is important for a man's self-esteem and emotional health. Even if you have to pay money or go for women that aren't ordinarily "your thing" I would encourage you to do that. But then again, I have no idea what this means combined with the "Yeshiva" revelation and if that contradicts some religious values or whatever.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27625721) |
Date: April 5th, 2015 5:59 PM Author: glittery jade theatre toaster
*hugs rach tightly*
"it's not your fault."
"it's not your fault."
"it's not your fault."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27625943)
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Date: April 5th, 2015 7:09 PM Author: wild church building mediation
Remember when Julia posted a short e-mail that harrison sent her and everyone tore her apart, saying that it was completely uncredited to discuss off-board communications with another poster without their permission?
Now rachmiel posts explicit details about his love/sex life and she hasn't posted in months and isn't even here to defend herself the way harrison was (causing everyone to wholeheartedly accept rach's version of events and decide that she's event) yet everyone's totally cool with this because he's a guy and she's a woman.
I remember UVT, twist, FPLB, earl and Steez in particular tearing Julia apart for discussing "privileged" info on here.
Where the fuck are you sexist, misogynist hypocrites now?
(Earl in particular is pumping rach for details as though it's a goddamn soap opera).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626343) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 7:13 PM Author: ultramarine lay
uh, this is not out of line with bel. How is this mysogonistic? Check your shit at the door. This is xoxo, not some shitlib AA drum fest.
girl that calls hard working americans at bookstore "proles", yet she can't pay for her own shit school loans.
Where is your shame coming from? Rach laid this shit out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626357) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 7:21 PM Author: wild church building mediation
Are you retarded?
When Julia posted Harrison's emails several posters brought up the xo "principle" that it's unacceptable to bring off-board matters involving anger poster to the board without that poster's permission. They said Julia was tacky and untrustworthy for posting Harrison's emails on here when he had an expectation of privacy.
Surely BEL had an expectation of privacy with a guy after dating him for years. Why isn't it tacky and untrustworthy of him to come on here and air their dir laundry without her consent? Oh right because he's male and men can do no wrong on xoxo and women are always at fault.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626400) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 7:36 PM Author: wild church building mediation
You think BEL opened the doors to having rach explicitly talk about her menstrual fluid and oral sex ability because she spoke generally about her relationship with both guys?
If the Box came on the board and began talking about twist's small penis, premature ejaculation and penchant for having a finger stuck up his ass during sex you would be completely cool with that since he discussed his relationship with her on here, right? No of course you wouldn't, hypocrite.
And harrison discussed Julia and the emails as well. He joked about her flirting with him and crap. Why didn't that open the door?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626497) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 7:54 PM Author: wild church building mediation
Nice straw man.
Blue Smoke and BEL were friends; of course she would defend her.
I'm not defending BEL; I'm attacking xo guys for being shitty hypocrites.
Nuance!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626642) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 8:06 PM Author: Crimson odious hominid parlor
She's done other reprehensible things.
To clarify, my problem with Julia (and I don't mean to open up an old debate) wasn't so much that she posted e-mails but that she inaccurately described what was in them and Harrison's off board activity to try to make it look like he was harassing her or something, which clearly was not the case.
Now did Rach go too far in the OP? Perhaps, and maybe I dismissed your concern a little too quickly. But assuming everything is accurate, in my mind it's different than the Julia vs. Harrison debacle unless of course the things Rach said were untrue.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626745) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 8:12 PM Author: wild church building mediation
I didn't mention you for a reason. I called out guys who specifically attacked Julia for posting off-board information, period. At the time, many many posters were on their high-horses, arguing that it's always unacceptable to share information about another poster without their permission. I predicted that if the situations were reversed the board would have sided with harrison regardless.
I maintain that the board would be angry at the Box for posting personal sexual information and out twist, or straight, or any of the other guys she's fucked.
It just seems to me that the board always finds a way to side with the male in any dispute, regardless of any principles they've formerly espoused.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626786) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 8:07 PM Author: wild church building mediation
NO
I DON'T HAVE ANY NON SHREWMO PERSONALITIES
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU ASSHOLES ACCEPT THAT?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626749) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 8:15 PM Author: lake zippy roast beef point
Champagne Facials Are More Erotic Than Real Facials
The moment there is nothing else left to desire, desire abandons you. Desire needs limits to try and breach or else it turns to ennui. So a man can hungrily have sex with the same woman for decades as long as he feels there is some aspect of her sexuality he can’t access, which is why imagination often turns to her past experiences. “Tell me about that time–” is the same as “tell me how I can’t have all of you.” Her past becomes a fetish. What she was wearing, how she felt the moment her ex penetrated her, that time they were caught: what, exactly, happened? You’ll never truly know.
A semen facial is pornographic and tells you exactly what she will do, a champagne facial only reveals her possibilities– not that she will definitely do anything, but that you don’t know at all what she’d do. The limit could be here, or it could be much further back. The woman is objectified, yes– but as a secret to be discovered.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626818) |
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Date: April 5th, 2015 9:25 PM Author: Arrogant gay wizard area
Sorry, misread. You're absolutely right. And add German Shepherds and even English Bulldogs to that as well to common historical "bad breeds." If you also look at the states that went with breed bans, you will notice that only one of two things happen:
1. They have to expand the breed bans to include basically any large, strong dog.
2. They become ineffective as the thugs switch to another breed. That's why the Netherlands revoked their pit bull ban. In the UK, the "staffordshire terrier" is among the most common breeds. What is that? It is what most would call a pit bull.
By the way, if I were looking for a "tough dog" and I didn't care about dog rescue, I wouldn't get a pit bull. I'd get something like a Caucasian Ovcharka, a Kangal, a Boerboel or a large Dogo Argentino. In fact, pit bull wouldn't even make my top 10 list.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27627509) |
Date: April 5th, 2015 8:14 PM Author: Histrionic indian lodge
Bro-I say this and mean this......yes, some girls do care about height. some girls care about height like they care about different shit--being white, being jewish, being fat, thin, whatever.
but girls mostly care about guys with confidence. own yourself bro. when I was younger I could not understand HOW my black cousins who were uneducated, poor, etc. landed hot educated girls just like my educated engineer white cousins. it's because my poor black cousins had confidence in their shit and owned themselves. girls are weak/insecure and admire guys who have confidence.
you have tons of $$$$$ but that won't mean shit until you have confidence in yourself, bro. you gotta wake up and love yourself bro.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27626806)
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Date: April 5th, 2015 8:51 PM Author: Thriller marketing idea
Girls that maintain a large online presence are insane. I say this as a girl that has maintained a large online presence.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27627185)
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Date: April 5th, 2015 9:09 PM Author: sticky diverse feces
the key is to have standards for how ur treated in relationships which relates to having confidence.
also to know how not to get used financially.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2847496&forum_id=2#27627362) |
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