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Date: November 4th, 2005 12:41 PM Author: Drab dopamine dog poop http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/02/news/midcaps/bizplan_fsb_1105/index.htm
I saw the enticing title, "Finding the Next Google, 3 Startups," clicked, and was surprised to read about an xo poster. |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 12:47 PM Author: Provocative public bath PrepMe does not belong in the same league as the other companies, especially NeuroLife. NeuroLife should've been #1.
My office ranked the top five and PrepMe was shut out: five 5th-place votes. |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 12:48 PM Author: burgundy dragon newt I was thinking the same thing.
How can you possibly compare a fucking prep test company that isn't that much different from the other prep tests companies out there with some of those other high-tech companies?
I think Joe boy paid 'em off. |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:00 PM Author: Provocative public bath It's quite plausible.
A more likely story with Joe is that he's one of those people who has a mediocre intellect, but hit some jackpot at a point in his life, just being lucky, that established him and led to more accolades. I've seen this happen to relatively unimpressive people, and only in middle-age do others realize how useless they are, by which point they're entrenched in some overcompensated sinecure position and can neither be fired nor wheedled into achieving more.
I would say that his "jackpot" was the perfect SAT score, coupled with having the right connections to get the book published. The perfect SAT is an accomplishment, but relatively unremarkable. His Up Your Anus book got him the PrepMe business and clientele, and PrepMe got him the Rhodes. Later, the Rhodes'll get him a job at McKinsey or the like, and that'll get him a high-paying corporate job. He'll never be great at business, because he's uncreative and terrible with people, but he'll probably never be fired, either. All this, with the only real accomplishment being a perfect SAT; other than that, he's pretty lifted. Joe Jewell is not an example of excellence, but of gilded mediocrity. Well, I spit on this polished turd. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: mischievous whorehouse therapy GTO tipped me off to the existence of this thread, and I feel I need to correct these libelous statements. To wit:
1) I actually didn't study for the SAT, and I took the test exactly once in high school. I'm sorry to disappoint you. I probably should've prepped, to be honest, but frankly I was far too lazy and too busy. I simply did not take the whole thing very seriously at all. I did the one practice test sample that they mail out to everyone who registers, and that was IT. The night before the test I was out until late at an orchestra concert ("Carmen." It was great.) In fact, I remember that day as a red-letter day not because of anything to do with the SAT but because I happened to meet my first long-term girlfriend at the concert.
Let me just note that that's a far cry from "wasting my childhood to optimize one test." Let's be serious here--that's baseless and ridiculous.
2) I had absolutely no connections to book publishers prior to doing UYS. My mother is an elementary school teacher and my father is a small-town newspaper editor. I spent the first six years of my life living with my parents in a small apartment while they saved up for a down payment on a house. Are you getting the picture here? Basically my whole family and everyone I knew prior to going to college was in one little rural town in Michigan. (I actually like that, though. I feel geographically centered and I will never be without a home. Money can't buy that feeling.)
3) Caltech has a 30% acceptance rate for people with perfect SATs. (How do I know this? I was on the admissions committee.) Just FYI. I have no idea what they saw in me and I'm profoundly grateful to have been let in to what for me was absolutely the perfect place to spend four years, but whatever it was, it wasn't a test score.
4) I left PrepMe 100% off of my Rhodes app. There wasn't even a hint of a mention. I applied in late summer 2004, remember, and PrepMe didn't really have a full-scale launch until January 2005. There was nothing to put down, really, even if I'd wanted to. The two things are completely independent of one another. Sorry again.
5) I've never claimed PrepMe as a "prestigious" business, and it's not intended to be. It's intended to do what any other good business does: provide a valuable product in exchange for money, hopefully at a profit. So far, it does that very well, I must say. We have satisfied customers who believe our product is worth it and have referred us to others. What more do you want? It's something that (with partners) I started because I could do it in my spare time and not sacrifice any academic pursuits, and I thought it would be neat to see what being involved in a startup company was like. I fail to see why it's a point of criticism that I didn't start a biotech company. I'm not a biologist.
6) In a similar vein, I didn't take the Putnam because I'm an engineer, not a math major. I'm not sure how that's a strike against me in your eyes. I chose to pursue a few long-term research projects in my field instead because those interested me a lot more than a "contest"-style math test with little application to anything I hope to do.
7) The Joe Jewell in Arkansas plays hammered dulcimer in a folk/bluegrass type band. I'm not sure how you consider that "classical." Also, I am a classical musician, but a timpanist/percussionist, not a French horn player (French horn is, however, probably my favorite instrument to listen to). Music is a huge part of my life. This is one of many things that I do because I enjoy them and they bring me pleasure, not to build up imaginary internet prestige points to take you on (in fact, I do exactly zero things with my time to try to do that).
8) I'm not a fair judge of myself (think about that statement for awhile and maybe try to apply it to your own life), so I can't really address the comments about whether or not I'm attractive or "good with people." I will say that I have friends (both new and since childhood) and family who care about me, and have had several very meaningful and loving relationships. That's about all I ask for in that department, so I guess whatever I've got going there, it's good enough for me. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:23 AM Author: dead sneaky criminal pwn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303033) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:50 AM Author: olive jet-lagged famous landscape painting concur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303314) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: emerald arousing haunted graveyard dilemma Holy pwnage, Batman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303599) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 2:17 AM Author: Zippy Forum Fat Ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4304151) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 10:39 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression it's good to put it in terms so that pensive can understand it. :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4305188) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 9:58 AM Author: Provocative public bath ... and more importantly, technical terms so that people like you can't understand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4314394) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 11:06 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression i'm glad you recognize that your pwned into infinity then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4314702) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:38 PM Author: Provocative public bath your/you're errors are highly unprestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315555) |
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Date: November 10th, 2006 8:22 PM Author: lascivious fighting hell while (true) is more elegant and truly doesn't end. an int will overflow and depending on the programming language might not exit gracefully..... but neither does pensive.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#6965690) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 12:49 PM Author: topaz mewling partner den Maybe you should call up Fortune and tell them what your office decided. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211124) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 12:53 PM Author: impertinent hot idiot point 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211145) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:01 PM Author: Provocative public bath Yeah, I should. My dislike for Joe Jewell aside, I seriously think that their ranking of a test prep company over NeuroLife, whose product will save lives, is an insult to entrepreneurs everywhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211211) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:03 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour what's wrong with JJ? he never seemed like the offensive type of guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211223) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:07 PM Author: Provocative public bath He's an asshole prick and an idiot. He's not nearly as smart as he thinks he is. He started a flamewar with me on the grad board by posting slanderous shit about my personal life (that he heard from some loser-fucker I knew in undergrad). He's so smug he makes everyone hate him. He's also uglier than Brian Peppers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211249) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:08 PM Author: appetizing friendly grandma box office i'd probably be one too if i had his stats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211260) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:14 PM Author: Provocative public bath My Putnam score hurri-pwns his SATs, Ambition > PrepMe, and his Rhodes only confirms the suspicion among elite circles that the selectivity of the RS has declined in recent years. Yet I'm not as much of an asshole prick as he is. I still wish I could be nicer and less arrogant, but I'm thankful every day not to be that smug, underaccomplished douchebag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211309) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 10:41 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression none of this is true.
your putnam score doesn't pwn anything except perhaps other, lower, putnam scores; ambition sucks, as you've been told repeatedly; no one but you thinks the rhodes isn't prestigious; and you ARE way more of an asshole prick than esssentially anyone else on this board.
also, "smug, underaccomplished douchebag" is a phrase i think most people would associate more with yourself than joe. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:16 AM Author: Provocative public bath So tell me your fucking Putnam score, or STFU and GOI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312419) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:53 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo You seem to think that everyone worth anything has a Putnam score. This is an incorrect assumption. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313390) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:09 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour wow, got that off your chest...i thought he was alirght but i don't check out the grad board so what do i know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211263) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:11 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon A battle of looks between the two of you would result in mutual disqualification, but his ability to sustain a relationship means he's not as socially crippled as you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211282) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:17 PM Author: Provocative public bath Wrong again, you have no taste. If anything "cripples" me in relationships, it's that, ever since coming back from Budapest, I've held high standards that disqualify the vast majority of American women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211333) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 5:28 PM Author: Swashbuckling bearded codepig generalized bond I wasn't aware requiring armpit and leg hair could be called "high standards" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4308314) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:16 AM Author: Provocative public bath What decade are you in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312408) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:08 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon Joe has used his prestige to win accolades, while Pensive feels his superior intellect can't get him anywhere. This is why he's insanely jealous of Joe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211257) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:10 PM Author: Provocative public bath Joe Caltech has no prestige. Let me remind you that he wrote an SAT prep book. If he had written a novel that had sold 100,000 copies, I would gladly concede him as being more prestigious and accomplished than I am. SAT prep? No. Sorry, but it's not prestigious. Nor is this "PrepMe" clown outfit.
I'm glad that you recognize my superior intellect, but you're otherwise way off the mark. I'm not "jealous", I'm morally outraged by this elevation of mediocrity by people who should know better, such as the Fortune editors. |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:12 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour he's a classical musician thus he's far superior than most already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211289) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:17 PM Author: Provocative public bath That Joe Jewell is someone different. He lives in Arkansas. Google him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211324) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:19 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon He plays the french horn and is very knowledgeable about classical music. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211347) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:20 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour this is the same caltech guy right? pensive is confusing me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211355) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:20 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon Yes this is Joe Caltech we're talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211361) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:24 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour ok cool, yeah he's alright, i was surprised at how knowledgeable he was about classical music, very impressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211387) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 2:13 PM Author: Provocative public bath If the classical music thing is true, then I admit freely that Joe Caltech has clear evidence of prestige potential. A top graduate engineering degree doesn't hurt him either. If he had authored "Up Your Score" under a pseudonym, picked a better name for PrepMe and only "consulted" it rather than being part of it, and weren't such a douche on XO, he'd probably be pretty prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211930) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:20 PM Author: Provocative public bath He clearly played someone's horn very well to win that Fortune contest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211359) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:12 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon I think you're marginally smarter than him, especially in mathematical pursuits, but he's much better rounded than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211292) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:16 PM Author: Provocative public bath Wrong. He wasted his childhood optimizing one test, and not even a very prestigious one. (141 AHSME '99 >> 2400 SAT). Now he's helping others to waste their childhoods just as he has; what a guy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211319) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:18 PM Author: Exciting gold tanning salon You realize that your "lucky SAT => success in life" theory is laughably idiotic, don't you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211337) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:19 PM Author: Provocative public bath Well, his SAT probably wasn't "lucky", given that I'm sure he prepared for it more than pretty much anyone else. However, it got him a TTT book deal, which got him some clientele for a mediocre company, which seems impressive at 24 and got him a Rhodes. So far, my theory has held up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211351) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:31 AM Author: mischievous whorehouse therapy See above, where these libelous and untrue statements are rebutted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303118) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:58 AM Author: Confused Wine House the problem is that mike feels threatened by joe since joe's more successful. that's really it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303413) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:21 AM Author: Provocative public bath If you consider PrepMe, on top of decades of sycophantic connection-mongering, to be "success", you're beyond the point where I can help you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312482) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:08 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo How exactly did Joe get these mysterious "connections" that, in your worldview, have facilitated all of his success? I think you were pretty solidly pwned by the rebuttal to that particular talking point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312963) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 11:02 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression a very good question, and one that pensive is unlikely to answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4314679) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:38 PM Author: Provocative public bath Either luck... or sucky sucky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315562) |
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Date: November 4th, 2005 1:02 PM Author: doobsian dull mad cow disease parlour ha! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4211220) |
Date: November 16th, 2005 12:16 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit people make way too much of that PrepMe, although of course i respect his efforts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4302944) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:21 AM Author: Pearl Site Degenerate Seems to be working out very well for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303005) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:22 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit arent the revenues almost nonexistent though? i mean it sounds like it's being run out of his basement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4303011) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 12:34 AM Author: mischievous whorehouse therapy Actually, our offices are in Chicago, not in anyone's home. And yes, it's an actual office, with phones, computers, a conference room, etc., although we're very much an e-company and the principals are geographically quite dispersed. Our CEO is based in Chicago and he handles the day-to-day running of the business. There's an article that should be out in the Chicago Sun-Times in about a week that will have (if I understand correctly) a photo of some of our employees in our office. Watch for that if you're curious; it might make it onto the internet edition. Is it a small office? Sure. We're a startup--what do you want?
We've done quite well this year. I'm not comfortable getting at all specific on financials, but it's very good for the year since the January launch, and we expect nothing but growth for 2006.
I'm sorry if you think "people" (which people?) make too much out of PrepMe. Personally, I couldn't be happier with the success we're having, I'm pretty excited to see where we'll go in the next year, and that's what matters to me. We didn't start the company to gain recognition on the internet or try to earn the respect of anyone. I've not posted any PrepMe articles on the board or even responded to any that have been posted, up to now. We do it because we like it, it's a new and exciting experience, and it's quite satisfying. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit I dont mean any offense about the company. It's better than anything I've done. I'm just saying, CNN calling it the "next Yahoo" or whatever seems like kind of an absurdity. I'm sure even you wouldn't say something like that, and you work there!
100k in earnings is good, but that isn't much for a business really. I just wonder why it is being lauded sooooo early.
You're a smart dude though, way way way smarter than I'll ever be, and I've no doubt it'll work out well. I just think some coverage is a little premature. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression it's not like he posted any of the articles himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313056) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:17 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit i know, i didnt mean that he did. i mean the *media*, in its accounts, overhypes a little on this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313064) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:18 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression yeah. the media overhypes everything, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313075) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 3:52 PM Author: copper stage Even if it were being run out of his basement, who cares? What's relevant is the profitability and potential profitability.
Assuming Joe isn't lying or massaging figures when he says they've got $100K+ in "income", the imputed NPV of the company is something like $1 Mil+, and that's assuming no future growth.
Assuming Joe managed to hold on to 50% of the equity, he's worth 500K+ in theory right now (and probably a hell of a lot more) - which is a fuck of a lot more than any of us.
It's not unreasonable to expect the income from the business to top off around $250K in a few years, and at that point it would be a nice acquisition target for PR or Kaplan, if only to get him out of the market, and Joe'd make a cool mil from that deal.
Further, he's probably got a lot of VC flowing in, in light of the publicity, so the business could really take off to develop a value of 20 Mil+. I suspect he's got the biz manager negotiating some financing deals as we speak.
Even if it fails, he may find himself running a large division at PR or Kaplan.
Running a business with any significant level of profitability and exposure is a great accomplishment, one that far surpasses the successes of any other posters on this board. |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 6:34 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression there are three partners, though, and in early startups you usually have to give chunks of the company to early employees too (like the several hundred folks who became millionaires when google hit big) so that they work for less cash than otherwise. i doubt he's got 50% or anything close.
still, you're right. money talks, and there's a lot of it there, potentially. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit It's cool, no doubt, but they aren't gonna get actual VC funding or a buyout at that low of a market value. There'd be no point is such a small acquisition/financing deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313048) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:18 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression such deals happen all the time. you've just revealed that you have no clue. companies like google, microsoft, ibm, probably pick up a dozen or more startups each for values in the single millions every year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313070) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:22 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit link? maybe, i know little of VC. what i do know, though, is that even outstanding results from a tiny business do little for the bottom line of a behemoth like Google. so the incentive is low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313095) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:22 AM Author: navy resort Acquisition is very different from VC funding. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313100) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:25 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo This is a good point. However, don't companies usually get VC funding *before* they make any money at all (and are thus, in a strictly financial sense, worthless)?
I don't know about how many a year or anything, but it seems like you read about companies getting bought out that aren't actually even profitable yet all the time. eBay bought Skype for several billion, and Skype currently doesn't make jack, but eBay saw potential. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit skype's scale is big though. PrepMe has sixty clients, right? skype's profit potential is fairly clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313181) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo I don't know anything about PrepMe specifically. I'd imagine all this publicity hasn't hurt the customer base, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313197) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:34 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit no, but then we search out these articles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313207) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:34 AM Author: navy resort Well, I don't know real world business, but I do know the tech industry decently well.
People who get VC funding generally get it because of the people involved moreso than the profitability of the current project (on the assumption that geniuses working together are going to make money somewhere somehow). This works out poorly sometimes, and really well other times, though obviously outright success on the level of Google is totally improbable.
VC's always want their money back, though, many times over. Companies that acquire other companies are either looking to incorporate the talent/technology or get rid of the competition, and in either case don't expect the company to make tons more than they invested like VC's would.
Or, stated more simply, I don't think Joe's company will get VC funding unless they do something revolutionary. They might get bought, but if I were managing them, I'd hold on to most of my control until I was positive I had something more profitable to do, as things seem to be going well. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 3:55 PM Author: copper stage At this point it is just semantics. Clearly, small, and even extremely small businesses get financing all the time. Nearly all businesses, regardless of size, are able to secure some form of financing.
Whether you call it "VC" or not just depends on your definition of what VC is. The fact is that there's a real potential for significant financing to be arranged for the business.
I'd even throw my hat in as a potential investor (of ~$100k) if not for the facts that:
1: he's probably got much bigger $ offers coming in. 2: he's probably not eager to give up too much equity. 3: all the hype might lead him to overprice the equity.
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:17 AM Author: navy resort How'd you get that valuation? Just curious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313063) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit 10 times earnings, which is actually a little low, probably. 10 times is like for no-growth industrial companies, like paper or textiles.
he should fetch 20 i guess, since he has growth prospects but doesnt have professional mgmt with long track records, i dont guess, and doesnt have a lot of a track record for the business either. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:24 AM Author: navy resort I mean, the test prep industry seems pretty straight-forward. Get people to pay you for your IP.
The guy running the business side is, from what I can tell, a pretty smart kid. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:26 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo 10 doesn't seem low to me. High, maybe. It's a tight market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313131) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:32 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit it is, but there is more pricing power and less commoditization. you can distinguish yourself, and charge more as a result (or sell more). it's not like cotton or wherever, where price is all that counts. a textile business would go at 10 times earnings, maybe.
i'm not super knowledgeable about VC or acquisition of very small companies. but that's what i would think. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 4:00 PM Author: copper stage I'm assuming earnings are constant and a 10% discount rate. I'm just solving for NPV using a perpetual cash flow of 100K/yr under these assumptions.
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Date: November 16th, 2005 3:32 PM Author: Overrated institution mexican what's the right amount to "make of" it? the current publicity doesn't comport exactly with its current influence. so what? obviously it's something that's seen to have the potential to be huge in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4307266) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:16 AM Author: Harsh orchestra pit anything could be huge. bottom line is it gets a lotta press despite being incredibly tiny. i dont really get it. although I wish Joe and them the best, they're smart dudes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313057) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo Has it really gotten all that much press? I think it's more that someone just posts any press that there is to the board. I mean, I haven't noticed it independently of this board. Have you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313094) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: navy resort They're definitely getting a lot of press recently. Business contests won, et cet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313109) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:26 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo But would you even know if you weren't on the board? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313139) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:36 AM Author: navy resort Haha, yeah, I would. I've done contract work for them. But I'm an exception. I don't think they've got near the market penetration they could have. Which is just a reflection of the fact that they're a growing business. If they haven't lost interest in 2-3 years, I think they'll be sitting on something pretty good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313224) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo Ah, cool. I'll have to follow the progress along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313244) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 3:26 PM Author: Orchid Glittery Hospital the first place may have had something to do with being the only one whose goal wasn't 'to be acquired.' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4307225) |
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Date: November 16th, 2005 4:25 PM Author: Citrine Excitant School Cafeteria Congratulations Joe.
When will we see you on the Apprentice? |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:06 AM Author: Provocative public bath Subject: Joe Caltech = PWN4D by life 1. I have been away from XO for the past few days, and will continue to post sporadically if at all. I have been occupied with matters concerning those close to me, as well as academic work, and cannot afford the time.
2. When XO gets under my skin, I leave. Then I stop thinking about everyone on this forum. When I get under Joe's skin, he comes back. This only proves, beyond any doubt, that I pwn him, because he is in submission to me while I can take his shit or leave it.
3. I actually don't hate Joe Caltech that much. Pensive is half schtick. Irrational hatred for a poster of below-average-but-not-abysmal quality is fucking hilarious. It's akin to Stephen Colbert's hatred of bears. However, I don't even think about Joe Jewell aside from XO. In real life, while I dislike his personality and frown upon his PervMe business, I don't have the passionate hatred of him that I employ in the pensive schtick. In the context of XO schtick, having such irrational hatred for someone is hilarious; in real life, it would be pathetic.
4. The fact that a Rhodes Fucking Scholar started a thread about me proves an unrelated point. I am what is known by some cultural theorists as a "natural celebrity"; that is, a person who can, without even trying, magnetically attract attention and exert influence over others. I will pwn you every time you start a thread about pensive that I didn't start.
5. I am a better poster than Joe Caltech, though I have gone into indefinite remission. I am more insightful. I am a better writer than Joe Caltech. I can affect the diction of any social class, lower to upper. I exhibit culture, refinement, and prestigious diction, though I come from a middle-class background similar to Joe Caltech's. Yet I am eloquent, and he sounds like ghetto refuse. I win again. PrepMe on this, bitch.
6. Ambition >>>>> PrepMe and all you fuckers know it.
7. Later this week I am going on a second date with a very attractive woman with the type of beauty that none of you fuckers could get, except for 174, M Kid, Chauncey, Quasar, along with possibly Petro, egress and Renada. Have fun hitting on Dogshit, BlueberryPie and intrigue, loser-fuckers.
You are all PWN3D five million and thirty-eight times over every minute of my life. You cannot extinguish my prestige any more than you could put out the sun with your piss. (Hint: you can't.) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:08 AM Author: Mind-boggling native hunting ground How old are you? Seriously? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312337) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:14 AM Author: Provocative public bath I have lived 22 prestigious years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312386) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo Something about that sentence seems to ring false. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312970) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:12 AM Author: Ruby locale cuck Your logic is flawless, as usual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312372) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:18 AM Author: Pearl Site Degenerate "Ambition >>>>> PrepMe and all you fuckers know it."
How much money have you made off of Ambition? |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:19 AM Author: Provocative public bath Prestige > money. I'll make plenty of money after graduate school, anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312460) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression it would appear that joe has more of both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313040) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: Pearl Site Degenerate Let's see...
Top of his class at Caltech, Michigan masters degree, published author of a book that's gone through multiple printings, Rhodes Scholar, and owner of a company that has made a lot of money, won entrepreneurial competitions, and gotten a ton of press coverage
vs.
Carleton undergrad, obscure card game "inventor," and Wikipedia troll
Seems like Joe has got you beat in both prestige and money. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:50 AM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313367) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:55 AM Author: Ruby locale cuck pensive is a doubly published author, fool. and he's going on a SECOND date with a hot + refined girl. Plus Joe Caltech looks like Corky. pensive's objective 8 on the hotness scale pwns that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313403) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 2:01 AM Author: Pearl Site Degenerate "pensive is a doubly published author, fool"
You're right, I forgot his prestigious online gaming magazine publication and his college newspaper column! How could I have ever made such a gross oversight. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 10:07 AM Author: Provocative public bath Okay, top of the class at Caltech is impressive; and his Michigan degree is top-notch. I'll give him that. Guess what? I could have gone anywhere I wanted for undergrad. I chose to go to a liberal arts college in the Midwest; I had been coastal my whole life and wanted a change of scenery. If that is going to cause a bunch of losers on the Internet to diss me, fine.
It is literally impossible that he got the RS without pulling strings. He is terrible with people and even I can see that. He's not well-rounded, either. This should be fucking obvious.
On the "multiple printings", take this trash elsewhere. Joe Caltech is not a talented writer. He's hardly an average writer. Given his lack of talent and creativity, we can conclude that one of the two is true: 1. His Up Your Anus opportunity was available to anyone with perfect SATs, in which case it is not terribly prestigious, or 2. He sucked cock/paid people off to get that book deal, which is even less prestigious. Conclude your own, because I don't know which of the above is accurate, and I don't want to be "libelous".
Furthermore, he paid people off in that "entrepreneurial" competition. Otherwise it is literally impossible that he would beat out a company that made a device that saves lives. Press coverage: Ever hear of the term "pocket journalist"?
So, I'm not impressed by any of this shit. Please take your low-class tastes elsewhere. The fact that you attend a good law school indicates that you have the potential to rise in life, and even excel, but if you honestly consider Joe Caltech prestigious, you're going nowhere except to the trailer park. (Okay, more accurately, you'll be a PI lawyer marketing to people who live in trailer parks.) This helped. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 11:04 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression 100% serious on this one mike.
"he paid people off in that 'entrepreneurial' competition. Otherwise it is literally impossible that he would beat out a company that made a device that saves lives."
you'd better watch that. that's exactly the kind of solid, easily disprovable and obviously defamatory factual statement that a lawyer could nail your ass to the wall with. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:42 PM Author: Provocative public bath I didn't claim knowledge of a payoff. I merely deduced that one occurred, with high probability. The other scenarios (insanity of the judges, corruption, Joe having had blackmail on the contest judges) are comparably improbable. I admit that the probabilities of these scenarios are not zero, but they are damn small in comparison, which leaves that of a payoff pretty close to 1. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315592) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:44 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo You said that it happened (doesn't matter whether you claimed "knowledge" of it or not--in fact, you probably just made it up completely. Even worse for you.) Not with high probability--you just flat-out said "Joe paid off the judges."
It's pretty hard to believe you're really this insecure. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:50 PM Author: Provocative public bath He certainly didn't win on merit. That is a fact. What precise channels he pursued to steal (yes, steal is the appropriate word) the prize from NeuroLife, the medical startup, remains an opaque detail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315661) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:54 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo You've backtracked quite a bit here, but the cat's still out of the bag. You said he paid off the judges.
So your theory is that Joe's (in your eyes) awful credentials, terrible reputation derived from (gasp!) having previously published a successful book in the field, and lackluster people skills would've dragged down the business enough such that the other two partners, no matter how good they were, couldn't possibly have won on merit? Seems unlikely. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:55 PM Author: Provocative public bath Well, I don't know anything about the other two partners, but if they have even one-tenth the sense that it will take to turn this into a successful business, they'll drop the deadweight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315697) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:58 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo The person who is by all accounts the key to the whole operation is "the deadweight"? I'm not sure if we have the same definition for that word. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315710) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:44 PM Author: cocky flirting spot rigpig prestige is for insecure suckers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315618) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 5:23 AM Author: floppy outnumbered kitchen coffee pot I'm 100% in your corner, if only because the most broken people I come across invariably tend to run preptest companies. This might be peculiar to my biography, but experience dictates there's something about the test-prep industry that atttracts deeply abject humans. Annoyingly, Joe, self-made millionaire or not, writes very vapid prose and I suspect he picked up this kill em with kindness tone from his hare krishna lifetsyle coach. It makes you really wanna beat the bag out of him. I like you cause you are authentically immature but have great potential for magnificent corruption. I sense your sense of the asburd. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 10:12 AM Author: Provocative public bath You are highly prestigious. By the way, Finland rocks. I totally need to visit Helsinki some day; I've heard that it's beautiful. Are you a fan of HIM?
I don't think Joe Caltech is anything close to a millionaire. Anyway, even if he were, the fact is that his whole life is predicated on one test score, an impressive test score, but nothing else. That's hilariously unprestigious. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 11:10 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression "the fact is that his whole life is predicated on one test score, an impressive test score, but nothing else."
hmm. basically everything in this thread points to that NOT being the case, but whatever. you're too far off the deep end.
how about when he IS a millionaire? or wins his next big prize? or comes out with his next publication? or gets a job as a prof? or... fill in the blank. your little game of saying that somehow someone's whole life can turn golden from a perfect SAT score seriously strains credibility (it's ridiculous, since i think something like 500 people get that every year, and as joe pointed out they don't even all get into the college of their choice, LET ALONE any other benefit beyond that. no one cares about the sat after you're into college.) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:48 PM Author: Provocative public bath First of all, his life didn't "turn golden" and it never will. He's still terrible with people. Besides, his "next publication", if it's a test-prep book, will only make him more unprestigious. Up Your Anus can be written-off as a youthful indiscretion, but if he writes a sequel, he'll be unprestigious for life.
"no one cares about the sat after you're into college."
Exactly. This is why I don't find him prestigious. His perfect SAT score is the only real thing he has, and I'm not impressed. You're finally getting it. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:50 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo Right, the Rhodes Scholarship, Department of Defense fellowship, published book and papers, Caltech, Michigan, and Oxford degrees, pile of money from a successful business, actual living breathing girlfriends--none of that is "real."
I think I am "getting it." You have no grip on reality. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:52 PM Author: Provocative public bath His published book is not a novel, not a volume of poetry, not a collection of insightful essays. It's a test-prep book. Anyone who got 1400+ on the SATs, much less 1600, would be qualified to write it with some basic research.
Clearly there were strings pulled for his scholarships. I won't claim to know precisely what they were, because I haven't examined the paper trail and don't have the continuing interest.
I know nothing about his girlfriend, but to get just any girlfriend is easy for anyone. I've never met her, so the only thing I know about her is that she has poor taste. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:59 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo Again, reality.
You're just surmising pulled strings because you hate him. Admit it.
Everything about Joe seems pretty damn self-consistent to an outside observer. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 3:40 PM Author: slate up-to-no-good indian lodge don't blow off that its a test prep book written by a man who by his own admission did not prep at all. he may know the sat--he may have some deep inner instinct for it--but that has nothing to do with teaching others. he literally knows nothing about prepping. does this aroma of fraudulence not somehow make him slightly more interesting though? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4316373) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 9:38 PM Author: Provocative public bath He knows a lot about prepping. It is literally impossible that he got that score by natural talent. He had no life in high school and he still has none. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4328054) |
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Date: November 19th, 2005 10:20 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression have you ever even read anything about him? it looks like his life is pretty damn active to me. he picked up a girl instead of studying for his SAT, and still scored 1600. now THAT is fucking prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4335158) |
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Date: November 19th, 2005 10:55 PM Author: Provocative public bath The girl was probably attracted because he had A BOOK! LolZ!
Big deal. I'm not impressed. Anyone can get "a girl". |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 10:11 AM Author: Big giraffe gay wizard "3. I actually don't hate Joe Caltech that much. Pensive is half schtick. Irrational hatred for a poster of below-average-but-not-abysmal quality is fucking hilarious."
David Lat, is that you? |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:16 AM Author: fishy marketing idea cruise ship I bought that SAT book! Ha! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312413) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:17 AM Author: Provocative public bath Keep the receipt and get the tax write-off for charitable giving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312431) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:20 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression that's what i did with your mom's receipt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313080) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:23 AM Author: topaz mewling partner den You filthy degenerate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4313104) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 9:57 AM Author: Provocative public bath Has it not occurred to you that this type of irreverence with respect to one's social superiors is not going to help you get ahead in life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4314392) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 11:00 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression has it not occurred to you that if you don't get professional help soon, your life will continue to be pathetic and bleak?
cracks about "social superiors" and you claim to be from a regular joe middle class stiff background. give me a fucking break. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:44 PM Author: Provocative public bath I fucking EARNED my right to pwn loser-fuckers like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315611) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 6:46 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression you haven't earned jack shit, except your reputation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4326519) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 9:34 PM Author: Provocative public bath If that reputation is that of being an elite person who pwnages the loser-fuckers, you're right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4328012) |
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Date: November 19th, 2005 10:22 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression no. it's the reputation of being an arrogant, obsessive, stalker-ish creep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4335185) |
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Date: November 19th, 2005 10:54 PM Author: Provocative public bath I'm arrogant, but with good reason. The rest is bullshit made up by loser-fuckers because they can't handle my superiority to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4335601) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 6:49 PM Author: Harsh orchestra pit me too. it was okay (i got it for xmas one year actually...no, i'm not asian!!). i liked PR best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4326538) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:26 AM Author: Drab dopamine dog poop Wow, I did not expect this reaction. Hilarious. This should be a psych case study. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312521) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:28 AM Author: Ruby locale cuck Of course, pensive is half schtick so his behavior can be rationalized. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4312532) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:13 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression Subject: "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" (check out #8) NOTE: "laura bush's labia flapping in the wind" was the first poster to note this on the xoxo board and this post was inspired by that (although on other forums mike has been similarly and independently e-diagnosed before). see the original post at: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=292610&forum_id=2#4220691)
Diagnostic Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe07.html
pensive seems very solid on 8 out of 9 diagnostic criteria, with a probable on the 9th one (about manipulative behavior towards others--note all of his alternate self-supporting monikers) as well. you only need 5 to be diagnosed with the disorder. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 10:08 AM Author: Provocative public bath Subject: check out #23! check out #23! 23. Flows his shot on the forehead of "can't edit me away!"'s mom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4314419) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 10:58 AM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression are you seeing anyone for your issues? seriously, just print off some of your threads here--maybe the can't-be-written-off-as-schtick ones explaining how you like to "pwn" girls who don't find you attractive--then explain your true feelings about your card game and its inherent quality and potential, and any shrink at all will have a diagnosis for you in no time!
you are textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder. i'm not even the first (or second, or third...) person to tell you that, am i? |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 3:47 PM Author: floppy outnumbered kitchen coffee pot Sir, you are hitting poetic heights with the above post. persist, please.
PS: HIM is pussy. Turbonegro we loved until BAM MARGIERA ruined them. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 12:51 PM Author: lavender abusive bbw I can't believe that fucker didn't give a shout-out to xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315317) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:39 PM Author: Fuchsia Tripping Office Joe is a cool guy, and has incredible credentials, but I find it absolutely ridiculous that a run-of-the-mill prep company is being grouped with some actually groundbreaking startups. I wonder who knew who. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315567) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:43 PM Author: Provocative public bath The second sentence is accurate. However, descibring him as a "cool guy" with "incredible credentials" makes you upper-lower class at best. Repent and find refinement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315601) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:44 PM Author: Fuchsia Tripping Office If being a Rhodes scholar and a Caltech engineering grad would make me mediocre and upper-lower class, please sign me up for mediocrity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315615) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:46 PM Author: lavender abusive bbw The only true prestige in life involves inventing a shitty card game and spamming it on wikipedia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4315628) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 1:54 PM Author: Provocative public bath 1. You've never played it.
2. It wasn't "spam". That claim was made by a bunch of fascist (no exaggeration; these fuckers have been tracked to right-wing political groups) loser-fuckers on Wikipedia.
Please know what you're talking about before you spread shit. |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 2:08 PM Author: 180 very tactful cumskin tattoo These might make some interesting reading:
http://www.penginus.com/index.php/Talk:Invented_card_game
(In which Mike repeatedly restores a banned section about Ambition, under a variety of documented sock-puppet usernames, most of whom popped up, made one or two posts in support of Ambition, and then promptly disappeared. He is also caught in the act when he doesn't realize his IP is logged.)
http://www.penginus.com/index.php/User:Isomorphic/Minions_of_the_Church
(In which Mike's various usernames are meticulously logged by a Wikipedia admin, with additional contributions from a dozen or more other Wikipedians. check out the profiles of his sock-puppets and note how transparently similar in style and writing they all are. Things get even more laughable as various of the sockpuppets try unsuccessfully to delete the catalogue page!)
http://www.penginus.com/index.php/Talk:Carleton_College#Ambition
(In which, after having tried repeatedly to slip Ambition into a page about his college, our hero is identified as a self-promoting "problem user") |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 6:06 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression wow. what a dick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4326164) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 9:35 PM Author: Provocative public bath Mid-size but very powerful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4328026) |
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Date: November 17th, 2005 3:51 PM Author: copper stage Assuming I did want to play Ambition, how would I? Seriously. you're a dick, but it might be a fun game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4316449) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 12:36 PM Author: Provocative public bath http://www.pagat.com/invented/ambition.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4323423) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 4:53 PM Author: floppy outnumbered kitchen coffee pot "Flows his shot on the forehead of "can't edit me away!"'s mom"
Sir, you are prestigious talented youth. you drink for free on me if you are around LA over the holidays. |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 7:03 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression his mom drinks for free everytime she sucks me off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4326696) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 8:16 PM Author: floppy outnumbered kitchen coffee pot has she considered accent elimination classes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4327322) |
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Date: November 19th, 2005 10:24 PM Author: rebellious deep senate indirect expression my juices help with that, actually. superhuman and all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=291884&forum_id=2#4335219) |
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Date: November 18th, 2005 9:37 PM Author: Provocative public bath Thank you. It's good that some people see this. It's funny how the prestigious people on this site (174, Chauncey, et al) seem to agree that I'm one of them, yet the loser-fuckers like "can't edit me away!" challenge me. They want my spot, and even though I've limited my posting to 20 minutes per day (and plan on continuing to do so) they can't take it.
I won't be in LA over the holidays, but there's a small chance of me being in California ca. spring break, depending on where a couple friends of mine go. |