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99 percentile on both the LSAT/SAT, common?
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:38 AM Author: Curious fiercely-loyal partner so i know a lot of you have 172+, and a lot also went to yale/harvard/etc. so how common is it to score in the 99 percentile in both the SAT/LSAT? and does it mean that you're a genius? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355393) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:44 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 standard deviations above the mean? I think 99th percentile is not very many standard deviations above the mean, but I've never scored low enough on a standardized test to wonder how many above a 99th percentile score is. Something like that, plus the extent to which you think SAT/LSAT correlates with IQ and the extent to which you think IQ measures genius at all accurately should help. http://www.robertniles.com/stats/stdev.shtml - first link that came up on a search, suggests 3 ~ 99th percentile, so maybe you are a genius. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:49 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Um... 130 seems a little low for genius.
I've heard 160 for genius. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:00 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall So albert einstein barely qualified as a genius? Fascinating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355474) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:01 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes What was his IQ?
I think we can agree that Einstein would qualify. What seems far less likely is that one out of very 100 people who take the SAT should qualify, since this would indicate thousands of newly identified "geniuses" every year. At that point, the word no longer means much. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:02 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall 165 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355490) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:04 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Eisnstein had 5 points to spare, so this would seem a reasonable cutoff. Hard to say that someone 35 points lower should also qualify. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355500) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:05 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall actually, I'm not even sure about my wild claim of 165; no clear google result. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355509) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:03 AM Author: Cordovan anal volcanic crater theater 135 is the typical cutoff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355492) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:04 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Makes more sense. I would prefer 140 or 150 myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355501) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:14 AM Author: Cordovan anal volcanic crater theater 135 is like 97th percentile. I don't think of that as "genius" but that's usually where it's drawn. Terms liek "idiot" and "moron" also correspond to IQ's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355546) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:55 PM Author: Onyx Bearded Quadroon Set "where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 standard deviations above the mean?"
3 SD above is 145 or 148 depending on the scale. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:27 PM Author: slate thirsty french chef Subject: 99.7/99.7 And I'm not a genius. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356574) |
Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:39 AM Author: Puce cracking abode background story The 99th percentile SAT score is only 1490 on the old scale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355396) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:50 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Only? Wow. Isn't that higher then the HYP median?
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:50 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes It's probably somewhat harder to score in the 99th percentile on the LSAT, FWIW. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355435) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM Author: cerise stimulating rehab dog poop What is a 166 now? Which percentile is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355442) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes 94th/95th percentile. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355445) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:54 AM Author: cerise stimulating rehab dog poop I think it was 95th when I took it (that was my score-I know, shitty for xoxo standards, but I did my best) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355447) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:55 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes It's good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355453) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM Author: Curious fiercely-loyal partner when i took the SAT way back when you needed a 760/760 to score in the 99percentile which is a 1520. i'm pretty sure it fluctuates year by year.
but actually im more concerned with how common the 99/99 is, moreso than if you're a genius or not. i kinda was just wanting to see if the people who scored 99/99 thought of themselves as very very smart. :) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:56 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes I think if you score above the 99th percentile on both tests, you're probably pretty smart in (at least) certain areas, though probably not in all.
Just don't get your head swelled! |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 10:09 AM Author: Carnelian aromatic hospital That score would put you in the 99th on each section, but your composite score could be lower than that to be in the 99th percentile composite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355890) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:55 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes FWIW, a 99th percentile SAT score supposedly puts you in the 99.7th percentile overall in terms of IQ. (Not everyone takes the SAT.)
Still, without an official definition of genius, I don't think you can conclude anything. To me a genius is more like a 1 in 10,000 thing, or maybe one in 100,000. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:02 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall So you would put it between a 177 and 180 LSAT score (assuming erroneously that everyone takes the LSAT, it measures genius, etc.)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355488) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:06 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Well, if you think about all the douches at T14's that crack 170, I think we can agree that doing that well doesn't make you a true "genius".
I'm not even sure everyone who gets over 177 is a genius, but that at least seems a little more arguable. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:06 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall sweet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355514) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:05 AM Author: well-lubricated big church Mensa website shows the difference in scores for different IQ tests for the magic 2% mark that they let in. Expect that the IQ number for "genius" varies quite a bit, depending on the exam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355508) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:07 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes PSA: Mensa people aren't "geniuses" either -- they're simply supposedly of "high IQ".
You can get into Mensa with a 163, I believe. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:08 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall yeah this is true, MENSA is very TTT. It's like Boalt: both claim to be prestigious, yet let in a significant number of idiots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355523) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:09 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Well said, though I kind of like Boalt for various reasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355527) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:10 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall In fairness, I know nothing about the place other than that perhaps the most annoying poster in the history of the universe goes there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355531) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:11 AM Author: mauve free-loading kitchen useless brakes Is she really that bad?
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:14 AM Author: Beta philosopher-king hall She was at one point but may have mellowed. I never got drawn into a protracted argument with her because I declined to respond to her more idiotic points, so others took them up, but still her presence in the T14 which in turn mooches on the prestige of HYSCCN and then HYS and then Y grates. What can I say, I'm a brain bigot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355543) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:38 AM Author: zombie-like water buffalo point I have among the highest SAT/LSAT combos on here, and I'm certainly not a genius. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355626) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 7:53 AM Author: Blue multi-colored casino I have a 99/99...and no, I don't consider myself a genius at all.
Usually I just think that other people are stupid.
=D |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:59 PM Author: Sienna contagious incel digit ratio titcr
unfortunately : (
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:07 PM Author: Razzle know-it-all hominid almost everyone at a top law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356850) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:13 PM Author: Curious fiercely-loyal partner i seirously doubt that even half of the people have a 99/99. the medians for all these schools are like 169 or whatever which doesn't even qualify for 99 lsat! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356903) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:11 PM Author: Onyx Bearded Quadroon Set Terman's classification (the guy who wrote the Stanford-Binet test):
140 and over; Genius or near genius
120-140; Very superior intelligence
110-120; Superior intelligence
90-110; Normal or average intelligence
80-90; Dullness
70-80; Borderline deficiency
Below 70; Definite feeble-mindedness
Wechsler says:
Very Superior 128
Superior 120-127
Bright Normal 111-119
Average 91-110
Dull Normal 80-90
Borderline 66-79
Defective 65
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