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99 percentile on both the LSAT/SAT, common?

so i know a lot of you have 172+, and a lot also went to yal...
Histrionic Free-loading Institution
  11/22/05
where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 standa...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Um... 130 seems a little low for genius. I've heard 160...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
So albert einstein barely qualified as a genius? Fascinating...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
What was his IQ? I think we can agree that Einstein woul...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
165
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Eisnstein had 5 points to spare, so this would seem a reason...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
actually, I'm not even sure about my wild claim of 165; no c...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
135 is the typical cutoff
Flickering state gaping
  11/22/05
Makes more sense. I would prefer 140 or 150 myself.
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
135 is like 97th percentile. I don't think of that as "...
Flickering state gaping
  11/22/05
"where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 ...
Avocado indecent box office half-breed
  11/22/05
99.7/99.7
Beta supple heaven rigor
  11/22/05
The 99th percentile SAT score is only 1490 on the old scale.
Insanely creepy church
  11/22/05
Only? Wow. Isn't that higher then the HYP median?
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
It's probably somewhat harder to score in the 99th percentil...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
What is a 166 now? Which percentile is that?
harsh therapy spot
  11/22/05
94th/95th percentile.
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
I think it was 95th when I took it (that was my score-I know...
harsh therapy spot
  11/22/05
It's good.
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
when i took the SAT way back when you needed a 760/760 to sc...
Histrionic Free-loading Institution
  11/22/05
I think if you score above the 99th percentile on both tests...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
That score would put you in the 99th on each section, but yo...
180 affirmative action
  11/22/05
FWIW, a 99th percentile SAT score supposedly puts you in the...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
So you would put it between a 177 and 180 LSAT score (assumi...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Well, if you think about all the douches at T14's that crack...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
sweet.
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Mensa website shows the difference in scores for different I...
Vermilion tattoo rigpig
  11/22/05
PSA: Mensa people aren't "geniuses" either -- the...
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
yeah this is true, MENSA is very TTT. It's like Boalt: both...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Well said, though I kind of like Boalt for various reasons.
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
In fairness, I know nothing about the place other than that ...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
Is she really that bad?
carnelian locus pistol
  11/22/05
She was at one point but may have mellowed. I never got dra...
nighttime garrison circlehead
  11/22/05
I have among the highest SAT/LSAT combos on here, and I'm ce...
Sepia Coldplay Fan Range
  11/22/05
I have a 99/99...and no, I don't consider myself a genius at...
wine excitant shitlib
  11/22/05
titcr unfortunately : (
bateful flesh theater stage goyim
  11/22/05
almost everyone at a top law school.
Federal ruddy hell
  11/22/05
i seirously doubt that even half of the people have a 99/99....
Histrionic Free-loading Institution
  11/22/05
Terman's classification (the guy who wrote the Stanford-Bin...
Avocado indecent box office half-breed
  11/22/05


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Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:38 AM
Author: Histrionic Free-loading Institution

so i know a lot of you have 172+, and a lot also went to yale/harvard/etc. so how common is it to score in the 99 percentile in both the SAT/LSAT? and does it mean that you're a genius?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355393)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:44 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 standard deviations above the mean? I think 99th percentile is not very many standard deviations above the mean, but I've never scored low enough on a standardized test to wonder how many above a 99th percentile score is. Something like that, plus the extent to which you think SAT/LSAT correlates with IQ and the extent to which you think IQ measures genius at all accurately should help.

http://www.robertniles.com/stats/stdev.shtml - first link that came up on a search, suggests 3 ~ 99th percentile, so maybe you are a genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355411)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:49 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Um... 130 seems a little low for genius.

I've heard 160 for genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355426)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:00 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

So albert einstein barely qualified as a genius? Fascinating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355474)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:01 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

What was his IQ?

I think we can agree that Einstein would qualify. What seems far less likely is that one out of very 100 people who take the SAT should qualify, since this would indicate thousands of newly identified "geniuses" every year. At that point, the word no longer means much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355483)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:02 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

165

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355490)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:04 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Eisnstein had 5 points to spare, so this would seem a reasonable cutoff. Hard to say that someone 35 points lower should also qualify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355500)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:05 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

actually, I'm not even sure about my wild claim of 165; no clear google result.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355509)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:03 AM
Author: Flickering state gaping

135 is the typical cutoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355492)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:04 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Makes more sense. I would prefer 140 or 150 myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355501)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:14 AM
Author: Flickering state gaping

135 is like 97th percentile. I don't think of that as "genius" but that's usually where it's drawn. Terms liek "idiot" and "moron" also correspond to IQ's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355546)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:55 PM
Author: Avocado indecent box office half-breed

"where does genius IQ supposedly start? 130? Is that 3 standard deviations above the mean?"

3 SD above is 145 or 148 depending on the scale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356780)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:27 PM
Author: Beta supple heaven rigor
Subject: 99.7/99.7

And I'm not a genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356574)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:39 AM
Author: Insanely creepy church

The 99th percentile SAT score is only 1490 on the old scale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355396)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:50 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Only? Wow. Isn't that higher then the HYP median?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355432)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:50 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

It's probably somewhat harder to score in the 99th percentile on the LSAT, FWIW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355435)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM
Author: harsh therapy spot

What is a 166 now? Which percentile is that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355442)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

94th/95th percentile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355445)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:54 AM
Author: harsh therapy spot

I think it was 95th when I took it (that was my score-I know, shitty for xoxo standards, but I did my best)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355447)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:55 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

It's good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355453)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:53 AM
Author: Histrionic Free-loading Institution

when i took the SAT way back when you needed a 760/760 to score in the 99percentile which is a 1520. i'm pretty sure it fluctuates year by year.

but actually im more concerned with how common the 99/99 is, moreso than if you're a genius or not. i kinda was just wanting to see if the people who scored 99/99 thought of themselves as very very smart. :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355443)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:56 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

I think if you score above the 99th percentile on both tests, you're probably pretty smart in (at least) certain areas, though probably not in all.

Just don't get your head swelled!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355457)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 10:09 AM
Author: 180 affirmative action

That score would put you in the 99th on each section, but your composite score could be lower than that to be in the 99th percentile composite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355890)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 3:55 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

FWIW, a 99th percentile SAT score supposedly puts you in the 99.7th percentile overall in terms of IQ. (Not everyone takes the SAT.)

Still, without an official definition of genius, I don't think you can conclude anything. To me a genius is more like a 1 in 10,000 thing, or maybe one in 100,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355451)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:02 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

So you would put it between a 177 and 180 LSAT score (assuming erroneously that everyone takes the LSAT, it measures genius, etc.)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355488)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:06 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Well, if you think about all the douches at T14's that crack 170, I think we can agree that doing that well doesn't make you a true "genius".

I'm not even sure everyone who gets over 177 is a genius, but that at least seems a little more arguable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355511)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:06 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

sweet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355514)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:05 AM
Author: Vermilion tattoo rigpig

Mensa website shows the difference in scores for different IQ tests for the magic 2% mark that they let in. Expect that the IQ number for "genius" varies quite a bit, depending on the exam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355508)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:07 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

PSA: Mensa people aren't "geniuses" either -- they're simply supposedly of "high IQ".

You can get into Mensa with a 163, I believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355518)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:08 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

yeah this is true, MENSA is very TTT. It's like Boalt: both claim to be prestigious, yet let in a significant number of idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355523)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:09 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Well said, though I kind of like Boalt for various reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355527)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:10 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

In fairness, I know nothing about the place other than that perhaps the most annoying poster in the history of the universe goes there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355531)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:11 AM
Author: carnelian locus pistol

Is she really that bad?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355537)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:14 AM
Author: nighttime garrison circlehead

She was at one point but may have mellowed. I never got drawn into a protracted argument with her because I declined to respond to her more idiotic points, so others took them up, but still her presence in the T14 which in turn mooches on the prestige of HYSCCN and then HYS and then Y grates. What can I say, I'm a brain bigot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355543)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 4:38 AM
Author: Sepia Coldplay Fan Range

I have among the highest SAT/LSAT combos on here, and I'm certainly not a genius.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355626)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 7:53 AM
Author: wine excitant shitlib

I have a 99/99...and no, I don't consider myself a genius at all.

Usually I just think that other people are stupid.

=D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4355716)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 12:59 PM
Author: bateful flesh theater stage goyim

titcr

unfortunately : (



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356802)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:07 PM
Author: Federal ruddy hell

almost everyone at a top law school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356850)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:13 PM
Author: Histrionic Free-loading Institution

i seirously doubt that even half of the people have a 99/99. the medians for all these schools are like 169 or whatever which doesn't even qualify for 99 lsat!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356903)





Date: November 22nd, 2005 1:11 PM
Author: Avocado indecent box office half-breed

Terman's classification (the guy who wrote the Stanford-Binet test):

140 and over; Genius or near genius

120-140; Very superior intelligence

110-120; Superior intelligence

90-110; Normal or average intelligence

80-90; Dullness

70-80; Borderline deficiency

Below 70; Definite feeble-mindedness

Wechsler says:

Very Superior 128

Superior 120-127

Bright Normal 111-119

Average 91-110

Dull Normal 80-90

Borderline 66-79

Defective 65



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=303772&forum_id=2#4356886)