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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:36 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
What is required?
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Date: July 11th, 2006 2:45 PM Author: vigorous set
He talks about this in his autobiography.
He says this is why he chose to apply out of whatever region arkansas is in than out of where gtwon is.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:52 PM Author: Hilarious thriller house
high grades. some research would be good, especially if you're going to a state school where 20 people (or more) graduate with a 3.95+ every year. something that shows that you've got more smarts than someone who just studies and takes shit classes. "athletic vigor" is a plus, don't have to play D-1 ball, but doing IM sports can help. other than that being well rounded and involved. be a slef-starter show that you put skins on the wall.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 5:56 PM Author: Hilarious thriller house
not bad. whlie you have a very good gpa (in a tough major) remember that you're going to be up against people with 4.0 gpas at Yale, Duke, Army/Navy, etc (look at this years bios). hit the books and bust out some 4.0 semesters.
try to get some leadership experience and start some shit that looks good (organizations, business, etc.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374226) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 5:52 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
Please refer to my "rate my extracurriculars" thread offer me some suggestions to improve upon my EC's.
Thanks!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374206) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 5:53 PM Author: grizzly misunderstood antidepressant drug location
you need an interesting personality and a good presence. i made it to the second round of the competition.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374210) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:34 PM Author: metal coldplay fan
No, you don't get it. He, like you, is "out." We know he's Joseph Jewell of Caltech, Michigan, and Oxford, just like we know you're Mike Church of Carleton and Wisconsin. That means his claims one way or another can be proved. I personally know people at Caltech who knew Joe, (although they're a bit younger) he hasn't "made up" anything about having friends/girlfriends. That's verifiable. And I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't mind being a "loser like him," considering he's got an incredible list of credentials. Don't break out your tired shit about PrepMe sucking and the Rhodes being a TTT. If Joe sucks so much, how come he consistently fools the objectively most prestigious institutions in the world into recognizing him... including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance? How come you're the only one that's got him figured out?
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:50 PM Author: Gaped Forum
Never tempt a man with quicker wit.
I never said that the Rhodes was a TTT. Historically, it has been a prestigious scholarship, but there are anecdotal reports of losers receiving them, and proof of at least one: Joe Caltech. PrepMe, of course, is a loser-fucker company designed to help rich loser-fuckers get into top schools at the expense of poorer, more worthy students. Simply put, it's a classist pogrom against the American poor.
"including graduate schools that wouldn't have given you a second glance"
Such as? I won't hold my breath; I know you won't be able to come up with any. To support your point, it is true that I wouldn't have gotten into top engineering departments, only because I didn't take any engineering classes at all during undergrad, but the same goes in reverse. I honestly don't know how to compare math vs. engineering for overall prestige, but I'm pretty sure Joe wouldn't have gotten into a top 25 math department, ever, but especially not now, after the Michael Lohman incident, since surely departments are more worried about "that type" than they were before.
I'm NOT the only one who's got this loser-fucker figured out? Ever hear of 174? He's way more prestigious (as am I) than anyone who has ever defended Joe Caltech.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:04 PM Author: Gaped Forum
I wasn't a social pariah. I was the slander target of a few loser-fuckers and it had an impact on my social life, but I did have friends, I went out and did stuff, and I managed to have some good social experiences in spite of the L-F's. I had an amazing girlfriend (gorgeous, extremely smart) for a short time; she broke up for reasons external to us (her previous relationship was dying; she broke up with me to get back together with him so he wouldn't kill himself). I had another chance to date someone amazing, but I wasn't ready for her on account of the previous relationship, from which it took me months to recover.
My reference to "high-end dating" was not an "insane rambling"; several posters agreed with me on it, you idiot. On PrepMe, it's only among the most unprestigious businesses in existence, that's all; other than that, I guess I have no problem with it.
Somehow, I don't see how any of this connects to Lohman, at all. Diagnosis: you're an idiot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374770) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:25 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Also, he was a math PhD student, like you. You've said yourself they're unique people. I'm surprised that the obvious has escaped you.
Engineers in general are much more even-tempered.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:05 PM Author: metal coldplay fan
I'm just saying that Joe got into every graduate program he applied to, including Caltech, MIT, Princeton, etc. I don't know the rest off the top of my head. I don't know how math and engineering compare either, but I'm assuming math is slightly more competitive and prestigious, especially pure math - that said, Joe was accepted to the best programs in his field. You, if I'm not mistaken, were not.
I know 174 doesn't like Joe, but I don't think he's nearly as down on him as you. I could be wrong.
I'm not attempting to get into a fight with you, today is a day of peace and love. I think your claim of being quicker witted can be debated, however. There's no need to bring personal attacks into this, that wasn't what I was going for... I'm trying to leave anything that could be construed as an assault on you out of this. I'm just sick of you talking down on Joe. He's a decent guy.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:16 PM Author: Gaped Forum
"I'm assuming math is slightly more competitive and prestigious, especially pure math - that said, Joe was accepted to the best programs in his field. You, if I'm not mistaken, were not."
Objectively, I'd have to say that Joe did quite well for himself in terms of graduate admissions. In truth, there isn't much debate about that. Now, Master's programs are generally much less selective than PhD programs, though I suspect that M. Eng. is more selective than most MA, MS programs. I do believe that engineering programs are much, much larger than math PhD programs, though I could be wrong. The comparison is pretty much impossible to make, because the departments are looking for different things, and one needs to prepare in order to get admitted to either. (E.g. I wouldn't be able to get into an engineering program, but not because I'm not smart enough.)
"I'm just sick of you talking down on Joe. He's a decent guy."
There is a reason I dislike him. He may be a decent guy in real life, but during the spring he used to come on here and pick the most idiotic fights, and he wouldn't let up. He also was friends with some of my real-life enemies, and took some slanderous shit he had heard from them onto the board. So I dislike him for some very good reasons, and I wouldn't be attacking him so viciously if those reasons weren't there; what motivations would I have? The insinuation that I attack him because of "jealousy" is absurd; there are plenty of people in the world more accomplished than I am, and I admire, rather than denigrate, them. Joe Caltech is a belligerent prick, and he's not even all that accomplished, definitely not moreso than I am.
There are probably as many people who think I'm a jerk online as there are for him, but in my case, the reason I'm such an asshole on the Internet is so I *can* be a nice guy in real life, because I have to put the negative energy somewhere and I'd rather it be with strangers than people I care about.
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:20 PM Author: metal coldplay fan
I can accept pretty much everything you say. It just seems a bit weird that you continue posting negative stuff about Joe after he's pretty much left the board... that said, I can understand the need to vent on the board, and it's probably better than you do so on someone who isn't even here to be bothered by it (although I guess he was bothered enough to come back and make that thread about you.)
Happy Thanksgiving, by the way. Did you do anything fun?
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:35 PM Author: Gaped Forum
That's the schtick part of it. Off the board, I don't care about Joe Caltech at all. I did once tell someone who knows him IRL that he's "a huge cocksucker" (I was drunk; it's not something I'd say to one of his acquaintances otherwise) last summer, but other than that, I don't care about him. It fits the pensive schtick to attack him at every opportunity.
On venting, I don't know if this is the best way of handling things, but it'll have to do. I create a lot of false selves ("schticks") for a mixture of amusement and self-obscurement; one of them is pensive, a prestige-obsessed parody of my 19-year-old self. Most often, I only deploy these false selves online, but occasionally when I'm inebriated they emerge.
Thanksgiving... all my friends left town, and for various reasons I could not this weekend, so yeah, it kind of sucks. I'm planning on heading out to a nice Indian place tonight, though. I did go to an early Thanksgiving dinner with a couple friends last week.
It's really bad. I've basically slipped away from everyone and everything. I can't blame it on graduate school or the lifestyle (the lifestyle isn't great, but not terrible either) but it's just the fact that I've become sluggish, depressed, and mournful. I've started to realize that I've let too much of life pass me by, and that I'm probably only a couple years from the point where, if I don't develop the ability to find and keep girlfriends by then, I'll have to give up and do evil shit to amuse myself. It's a horrifying prospect, but one I must consider.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374949) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:45 PM Author: metal coldplay fan
That sucks. I'm stuck on campus myself -- fortunately my roomie is here and we'll probably do a little pointless drinking and maybe watch a movie, but it's a far cry from spending time at home with my extended family.
I would suggest you start working out, if you don't already. It really helps keep you focused and feeling more involved in your own life. Not, of course, that you need to get all Joe_Vag, but running or something would probably help you feel better and give you more energy.
I know I'm not always the kindest to you, but it's mostly because I don't really like your shtick and think it's pretty annoying. I hope your relationship stuff does work out and I'm confident that if you work at it, it will. It's definitely possible to find quality women... honestly, man, I think you might be scared/hesitant because you don't have much relationship experience compared to other people your age. It's not going to get any better as you get older, start now. Get out there and meet people. Get those "6 prospects" you want, then get busy with one of them. Once you break through, you'll do well. Just don't fall into the trap of thinking you need to find the perfect woman to date. Sure you want a perfect woman to marry, but that doesn't have to be now. The more you date the more comfortable you'll get and the more likely you'll be to be attractive to the perfect woman once you do find her.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375031) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:10 PM Author: Gaped Forum
Yeah, I agree on what you say re Thanksgiving. Around October, something seemingly big happened that put me into a pretty deep state of gloom, and the only way I could complete my work was to withdraw from pretty much all social contact. So now I'm much less integrated into social life at my department, but it's basically my fault. I don't even know who's in town. In retrospect, what happened in Oct. was a blip, but it seemed major at the time.
Working out: when I can, I try to run 3-4 mi per day, but my schedule sucks this semester. My T/Th are overloaded and I'm basically doing something nonstop from 7 to 5, aside from a 45-minute lunch break. That, and it's dark after 5 pm, and I prefer to run in daylight.
My schtick is a mixed bag; I probably would find it annoying if I weren't running it, and I think it's probably outlived its usefulness on xoxo. Moreover, I'm not in the right mood for schtick anymore. The prestige obsession is ridiculous; when I actually was "prestigious" I didn't care about relative status or any of that shit, because I was too driven. Until 16 I was super-driven, a contest-math gunner who spent lots of time preparing for these contests, but then I realized that in spite of it all, I was unsuccessful with women and getting increasingly unhappy with age... and I lost that drive. I've gone up and down, from having no motivation at all to being about 75% as driven as I was in high school, but I've never been back up to that level, and I won't be until I can fix this pesky women problem because it's so fucking depressing. There is nothing seriously wrong with me except a previous pattern of failure (and various derivative complications) but it is a pattern that cannot be escaped, because women are unforgiving and irrational.
On relationships, the "6 prospects" was an exaggeration. I find it impossible to act "normal" though if I don't have many prospects, because then I have too much banking on one woman and it's bound to scare her away. In any case, yeah the relationship inexperience sucks and women are pretty unforgiving. I've considered creating a "new past" that is a wildly liberal interpretation of my real one (counting a grey case as a girlfriend, lengthening the 6 days of the other girlfriend to 3 months), living as if it were true (to build confidence) and taking comfort in the fact that most people will never find out otherwise.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375243) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:15 PM Author: metal coldplay fan
Creating a new past might work for you (at least it would be a confidence builder.) You'll be OK. Just work through this gloomy period, once it passes you'll be in much better shape. Ups and downs and all that.
Anyway, I have to go, but I want to wish you good luck. You'll be all right.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375276) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:31 PM Author: Gaped Forum
I'm in grad school; we don't get trashed, we don't do "crazy" things. It's quite an ascetic lifestyle and maybe not the best for me at this time of life.
I don't have my "whole life" to develop basic romantic partnership skills; if I haven't done so by 25, I'm fucked. You're a woman, so you have no concept of how hard it is to be a man, but we basically have to do all the work of finding and initiating relationships: approaching, asking out, first kiss, et cetera. Women get to just sit back, look pretty, and take half the credit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375334) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:39 PM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
Ok. I don't really know who Joe Caltech, you, or 174 are
but I can tell you that in terms of prestige, for someone UNDER 25:
Rhodes Scholar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVERYONE ELSE
Always
Always
Always
go memorize it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375376)
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
my sister wanted to be a neurosurgeon
i think she changed to oncology though
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375493) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:47 PM Author: Gaped Forum
That's really not true anymore. Maybe it was at one time, but the general consensus among elite circles (compared to lower-middle class XO speculation):
1. You don't need to go to HYP, but you should go somewhere that is good-- an Ivy, top 15 LAC, or a uni with formidable research programs. Princeton is the best of HYP.
2. If you went to a lower-calibre undergrad, you can make up for it through extensive self-study and erudition.
3. The major international fellowships (Rhodes, et al) have declined in selectivity over the past decade or so, though they're still quite respectable.
In any case, I never applied for the RS and I probably won't, because it would interrupt my graduate study. If Joe Caltech got one, though, I'd have a damn good shot at it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375409) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:58 PM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
You would have NO SHOT EVER, so lets clear that up to begin with.
My partner for one of my papers was one of the 32. He had excellent grades (and a much heavier courseload than me) and ridiculous extracurriculars. The Rhodes blurb mentioned like 1/3 of them.
truly prestigious.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375459) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:02 PM Author: Gaped Forum
You are wrong, and you can suck my cock, so let's clear that up to begin with.
If Joe Caltech was able to get one, then it wouldn't be difficult for me since I am by all accounts more impressive. If he hadn't gotten one, I would probably suspect that my chances would be relatively low.
That said, it sounds like your friend is pretty damn prestigious. Kudos to him.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375490) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:07 PM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
the rhodes is one of the ultimate arbiters of prestige.
and yes they like to take people crappy schools, and they always take some military kids so its skewed, but really...
it just is. don't try to deny it.
you can never be more prestigious than this CalTech guy because he has one. (at least in the next decade. the rhodes, like everything else, has a shelf life.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375512)
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:12 PM Author: Gaped Forum
You see, it's really not. Yes, the Rhodes Scholarship is neat and a lot of impressive people end up getting them, but it's not the "ultimate arbiter" of anything other than who gets to study in England.
I am already more prestigious than he is, though that's not saying much, and in truth I'm not terribly prestigious.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375537) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:13 PM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
Oiy.
this argument is getting truly circular.
where do you go to grad school? what are you studying?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375542) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:44 PM Author: Lascivious faggot firefighter dingle berry
You're 22! You should not have an ascetic lifestyle! In fact, that is probably what is making you more depressed than the fact that do you do not have a girlfriend.
Go out with some friends. I am sure that you can find out graduate students who like to have fun. I know have met some crazy grad students here--some that were even my TA's!
Also, don't worry about the future. Who's knows what will happen when you are 25? Just think about the present. If you meet someone who like that's good that's good, if not don't worry about it. It's nothing to obsess over.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375392) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:50 PM Author: Gaped Forum
"You're 22! You should not have an ascetic lifestyle!"
I would agree, but it's necessary in order to get where I want to be in life. First-year graduate school is rough, but it gets better in later years. (One is able to find lucrative summer jobs, the workload drops off, and one has more of a social life.)
"I am sure that you can find out graduate students who like to have fun. I know have met some crazy grad students here--some that were even my TA's!"
It's really tough, especially in the first year, to meet graduate students in other departments. I didn't believe other people who told me this going in, but it's really quite true. It's not like college where one ends up meeting all sorts of interesting people in a wide range of disciplines.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375422) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 10:57 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"Now, Master's programs are generally much less selective than PhD programs...."
Master's programs? Huh? I'm pretty sure Joe applied to PhD programs. Master's programs usually aren't even funded. And doesn't he want to be a prof? I know there were threads back when he was applying to schools (which is how people know he got in everywhere he applied in the first place). I'm sure there must be some on the grad board.
Nice try.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375851) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:20 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
So he was willing to pay his own way at a grad program? I've never ever heard of anyone doing that, from a top school, at least in a technical subject.
P.S. If they took him before he was a Rhodes Scholar, the odds that they'll reject him after don't seem very high.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375980) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:43 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Hahahahahaha! Pensive is speechless!
Your point has just been demolished and "oh well" is the best you can do. Hilarious.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376088) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:58 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
And the fact that he got into PhD programs at schools that rejected you or weren't even realistic enough for you to merit an app still stands, too.
Hey, aren't you on a teaching assistantship yourself?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376156) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:09 AM Author: Massive menage
"Yes, but I could have gotten into them for other departments than math, which is highly selective."
Okay, I'll bite, what PhD departments would you have gotten into at Harvard, MIT, Princeton, CalTech, etc. if you had bothered to apply?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376222) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:15 AM Author: Gaped Forum
Well, this doesn't apply for the latter three (since the programs don't exist) but law: I'm pretty confident that, given what I can do on the Putnam, I'd be able to crack 175 on the LSAT, which would get me in anywhere I wanted to go.
I could get into the top business schools by getting in through investment banking or consulting.
As for academic PhDs, it's much tougher to say because I didn't prepare for those disciplines in undergrad, every department is different and I don't know what they all want.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376254) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:22 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Law isn't a PhD program.
You make it too easy, Mike...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376295) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:27 AM Author: Gaped Forum
No, it's not. I must have misread GTO's post, actually, because I remembered seeing "graduate" instead of "PhD". Maybe I read too fast.
PhD admissions are very unpredictable in general, but it's known that math and physics are among the most selective, so if I had prepared for them in my undergrad, I'm sure I could have done well, as far as admissions goes, in many disciplines.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376333) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:32 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
All conjecture.
As it stands, Joe has real results (you're big on things being "real" aren't you?) and you don't. In fact, what you have is a pile of real rejections from real schools that Joe really got into.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376362) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:40 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
And he got into basically the top 5 or 6 PhD programs in his field. Right down the line, in fact.
You didn't.
(The fact that many of the top schools for aerospace are also top math schools that rejected you just must make it sting even more.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376416) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:50 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
And thus I'd imagine not many people apply either.
How the fuck should I know how big those programs are? Why don't you look that up, if you're going to hang your hat on it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376492) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:54 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Back that up, or it's worthless (god knows much of what you post is objectively worthless).
In particular, let's see you cite some acceptance rates, math versus aerospace.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376533) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"However, this debate has been held on this forum in the past, so look up the threads yourself."
Yeah, and the "debate" has consisted entirely of you asserting what you just asserted above without even a shred of evidence, and other people telling you that your opinion doesn't yet count as fact.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376562) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: Massive menage
"Nah, I got into Chicago"
Along with half the other people who applied. Chicago undergrad is probably the last place you should be bragging about getting into, it's hard to think of any US News Tier 1 school that's less selective.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376651) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:11 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
That's not what I said.
I know for a fact that Chicago is full of Ivy wannabes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376705) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:29 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
You know what else is prestigious...
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
(credit to asdf)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376892) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:34 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
: )
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376935)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:20 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
How about that whole "revealed preferences" survey? Nice and scientific, with results that just plain feel right.
1 Harvard 2800
2 Yale 2738
3 Stanford 2694
4 Cal Tech 2632
5 MIT 2624
6 Princeton 2608
...
27 U Chicago 2104
...
34 Carleton 2022
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376802) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:26 AM Author: Massive menage
Wait, so yield is meaningless but we should treat acceptance rates as gospel when determining whether math PhD departments are more selective than engineering PhD departments?
Oh wait, it's just another example of you not using a statistic because it doesn't help you... just like you said we should disregard Chicago's acceptance rate because of "self-selection."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376859) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:27 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Don't forget that he says acceptance rate is ALSO meaningless for undergrad schools.
And also that he doesn't have any actual evidence or numbers of any kind to back up his "math PhD programs have low acceptance rates" thing in the first place.
And how about that Revealed Preferences survey?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376874) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:51 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
But below you say it's just luck. And your numbers weren't at the top, either.
You've not mentioned your high school ECs before. I invite you to list them here now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377063) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:56 AM Author: Gaped Forum
I went to USAMO 4 times. Once would be enough to pwn the median student at any undergrad.
My numbers were so-so (1510/#2) mainly because I took the SATs cold and only once. Getting a 1600 wasn't a priority for me. ECs: Besides math contests, I had national writing awards, quiz bowl accomplishments, and community involvement. I was well above-average but not outstanding, as far as ECs go, compared to median students at the top undergrads.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377097) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:08 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
You sound like a run-of-the-mill math geek. We all know your "writing" accomplishments are complete bullshit, colleges don't give a rat's ass about quiz bowl, and every single goddamn applicant has "community involvement" (give me a break).
USAMO is a legitimately good activity, but 250 people do USAMO every single year, and many more do the equivalent in other countries. MOST of the US students and many of the foreigners apply to Harvard (and most probably manage better than a 1510, too, at least the native English speakers). This is not something unusual for Harvard, and is not an auto-admit by any means. Harvard picks a class of 1500 each year. They don't have room for 250+ people whose only real strength is math stuff.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377224) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: Massive menage
What novels have you published?
Hell, what of *anything* have you published, in something that isn't the publishing equivalent of open admissions (so college newspapers, online gaming magazines, etc. don't count).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377269) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 9:47 PM Author: black apoplectic mexican gaming laptop
titcr.
he has something called Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382369) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:31 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
But you've ACTUALLY done none. Zero. (And I seriously doubt your ability to do any of them other than maintain a relationship--I think that WILL happen, eventually, but only after your attitude has changed.)
Joe's already done 2, by my count, done the rough equivalent of a 3rd, would be an absolute lock for the 4th if he wanted it, and given his aptitude for standardized tests and other generally sterling credentials, would likely have little trouble with the 5th, either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377419) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:34 AM Author: Gaped Forum
He would never, ever get the novel, which is the most prestigious of the above.
Anyway, I don't spend my life trying to get XO accolades, which is why I haven't done any of those. Maybe at some point I will. Off the board, I generally don't care about anything related to XO.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377438) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:38 AM Author: Gaped Forum
A lot of those Rhodes Scholars are damn impressive. Joe Caltech isn't.
Haha. I've gotten you fuckers to flame with me for 300+ posts. Haven't you figured out yet that I only care about the numbers? It glorifies my ego either way. PWN3D.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377469) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:43 AM Author: Gaped Forum
For taking pleasure in flamewars? I rather enjoy them. They're a great way to dispel negative energy.
The truth is that I really don't give a fuck either way about Joe Caltech. But if I can amuse myself and others by trashing him on an Internet message board, then isn't it all in good fun? It's been a pleasure flaming with you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377497) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:45 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"The truth is that I really don't give a fuck either way about Joe Caltech."
Hmm. I don't think you'd tell his real-life buddies he's "a huge cocksucker" then.
His mere existence clearly eats at you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377516) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:10 AM Author: Gaped Forum
Scholastic Writing, National Gold Award. Twice.
Suck my cock, bitch.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377248) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:44 AM Author: Gaped Forum
That's very true, but there are other commitments as well.
Actually, I knew plenty of very smart people who put 40+ hpw into schoolwork, though I wasn't one of them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377509) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Google: "scholastic writing" "national gold award"
8 results
Google: "rhodes scholar"
497,000 results
So that's only like 5 orders of magnitude difference in prestige. Good job with that, man.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377320) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:48 AM Author: Massive menage
"Undergrad admission is a pure numbers game"
And yet every reputable source says otherwise. But thankfully we have Mike Church here to set us all straight!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377046) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:50 AM Author: Gaped Forum
Right, because those schools love to brag about how many 1600s they reject.
Nice edit, by the way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377059) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:52 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
I decided I'd just be more direct with you, as you rarely grasp anything too subtle. So yes, it was a very nice edit. Thanks!
OK. Lots of kids with 1590s get rejected as well. Point still stands.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377076) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:13 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
And now it's everyone's favorite time: we ask pensive to prove his absurd claims!
Please go ahead and do so.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377277) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:39 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
This is STRIKINGLY SIMILAR to his prestige rankings for women.
Are we sensing a pattern?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376972) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:15 AM Author: Massive menage
If it's all self selection, then why is it's yield so shitty? Every other good school with a self selection issue (BYU, Notre Dame, etc.) have high yields that go along with their high acceptance rates.
A high quality applicant pool, a high acceptance rate, and a low yield is evidence for one thing... safety school for Ivy applicants. Or at least that's what the people in my high school viewed it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376746) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Massive menage
"What does this matter, given that I went to Carleton for location and educational model"
Yeah, and people turn down Harvard for Boston University because Harvard has too many snobs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376617) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Massive menage
"Top-15 math departments have very low acceptance rates, often in the single digits"
Yeah, and MIT, Caltech, Princeton, and Michigan all have reputations for being the Cooleys of aerospace engineering -- they accept anyone and everyone to their PhD programs!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376541) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
you know what else has very low acceptance rates
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376675) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:14 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
hahahahaha
You're too good at this. I haven't seen him pwned like this since the thread that Joe made last week.
I hope to heck you're not actually Joe, because that would spoil it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376732) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:19 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
no, i wish
just giving credit where credit is due.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376788) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
you know what else [blank]...
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
That should become the standard response to pensive.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376808) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:38 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Apparently he once took the time to give Jul. Shock some advice, although I didn't know that before today. The things you learn. GTO knows him personally somehow. As for everyone else, I think it's really more about you than him.
In the absence of you, people probably wouldn't even talk about Joe, now that he's gone. But that's partly because there's nothing much to say: he's really fucking prestigious, probably the most prestigious ever to post on the board, which everyone can see (even though a lot of people thought he was either really boring or too Republican), and that's that.
But then you come along and toss your pebbles, and really the whole thing sheds a lot more light on you than it does on Joe, who remains pretty inert. Case in point, YOU turned this into a thread about him, and he didn't even post. YOU were the first to mention his name. Barring that one thread he made after GTO told him what you'd been up to after he was gone, he's not even around. We may safely assume he's getting drunk off his ass with a few pints of bitter right now.
Why are you so obsessed? THAT is really the point that interests everyone (or at least me). It's a bit like watching a trainwreck, except with a narcissistic, psycho-stalker instead of a train.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376961) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
its really not hard to see why.
he's jealous and intimidated.
he wants to put down what he cant beat.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377001)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:51 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
board prestige is not the same as real life prestige.
they are most likely inversly related in fact, but that's an argument for a different day.
Also, 174 and Media Kid are not friends of yours. They represent internet monikers of people you have never met. Get that straight.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377065) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:04 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
Are you subtly trying to claim that you are prestigious because you converse on the internet (and occasionally in person) with two other people who are deemed to be prestigious by an internet chatroom and that this tenuous connection makes you better than a rhodes scholar enterprenuer with real friends and real girlfriends?
My god. this board is like an alternate universe.
and I thought shrooms were fucked up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377187) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:08 AM Author: Massive menage
How is his entrepreneurship bunk? It's a real business and he's making real money.
"I could have a girlfriend if I lowered my standards enough"
Didn't you say earlier in this thread that you only cared about real accomplishments?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377228) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
whatever GTO let it slide.
some people are just psychotic.
that's it pensive. you've won. you are smarter, more accomplished, more cultivated, better looking, and more popular than everyone here, including Joe Caltech.
I bow in awe of your prestige.
...
(PS- i am really going to bed this time. i cant believe how much time i wasted trying to knock some common sense into an absolute idiot.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377270) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 2:40 PM Author: hot kitty cat
"and I could have a girlfriend if I lowered my standards enough. "
180.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187092) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:55 AM Author: Massive menage
I've spoken with 174 offboard and I'd be amazed if he really thought he drove Joe off the board.
I think it should be obvious to everyone on here that the reason Joe doesn't post that often now is because of, well, him being in England and all, cause he won the FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377091) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:49 AM Author: Gaped Forum
I didn't apply to MIT, or Caltech, because at the time I was afraid that if I did I'd get too specialized and not be well-rounded.
I only applied to Harvard because I was told I should, and blew it by telling the interviewer that I didn't want to go.
At the time, I was really sick of the East Coast-- the mentality and the people-- and wanted to spend some time in the Midwest. I also wanted to be in a liberal-arts college environment. The best LAC in the Midwest, according to most people you'll ask, is Carleton.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376487) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Really. Do you pursue anything in athletics, or music, or fine art? Are you at all accomplished in those fields? Or do you spend all your free time sitting around in the dark and typing on your computer?
A truly well-rounded person probably would've had a relationship by the time they graduated from college too, you know.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376542) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:07 AM Author: Gaped Forum
I run, and lift weights occasionally but not as often as I should. As for music and fine arts, I admire people who are talented in them, but they aren't my forte. I am accomplished in writing, game design, and mathematics. I think that's enough.
Admittedly, I've spent too much time online PWNing you loser-fuckers in the past few months.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376654) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:09 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"I am accomplished in writing, game design, and mathematics."
You're accomplished in mathematics. Period. (And not even THAT accomplished. Not accomplished on, say, the level that a Rhodes Scholarship might recognize.) You tinker around with game design, and we're all still waiting for your book to come out.
Even if it were actually true, that's a far cry from making you well-rounded. "writing, game design, and mathematics"? Come on, man. That's not well-rounded. That's Dork-O-Rama.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376678) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:28 PM Author: Gaped Forum
Yes, it would be better for me to get that book, but right now I'm doing other things. Besides, my superior writing skills inflame you already, post by post, so that's enough satisfaction for me.
More to the point, you're a loser so uninformed about the nature of reality that it's laughable. Please learn how life actually works; you are lacking in this knowledge and it shows in every post you write. Wikipedia would be a place to start.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382814) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:57 AM Author: Massive menage
"I only applied to Harvard because I was told I should, and blew it by telling the interviewer that I didn't want to go."
Wait, so you actually got rejected from Harvard on the merits, and not because of some big "We Hate Mike Church" conspiracy working behind the scenes? Wow, who knew.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376564) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"I said that I didn't want to go there..."
I highly doubt that was included on your app. You gave it your best shot and failed, Mr. Well-Rounded.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376612) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:50 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
Yes, you exceeded them in academic merit on one subject: math. And absolutely nothing else.
The median Harvard student does better than 710 on the verbal SAT section, and that's just for starters. Your "quite the hook" was in fact quite typical (close to a pre-requisite, even) for admission to Harvard to study math. Your profile is well-rounded in your dreams alone. Maybe if you'd been a talented figure skater or a super oboist.
And then later on in life, after 4 years of study during which you presumably believe you improved yourself, you once AGAIN weren't good enough to get into Harvard.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377540) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:24 PM Author: Gaped Forum
I took the SAT cold. I could have gotten much higher if I had prepped, and you're dead wrong and deluded about everything else. You've obviously never been to Harvard given how much you seem to worship the place (you overestimate its selectivty by far) and therefore I can only judge that you're a massive TTT. I'm sorry that I incite your insecurity, but you won't improve your life by inciting me, so get over yourself.
Also, UW math PhD >>> HC ugrad in terms of selectivity. There's no comparison.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382795) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 10:29 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
You know what's more selective than HC and UW math PhD put together?
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4382828) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:23 AM Author: Massive menage
"Well, this doesn't apply for the latter three (since the programs don't exist) but law:"
Joe isn't applying to law schools so how is this even remotely relevant? We were talking about PhD programs.
"I'm pretty confident that, given what I can do on the Putnam, I'd be able to crack 175 on the LSAT, which would get me in anywhere I wanted to go."
Of 139 applicants to Yale Law with a 175+ LSAT and a 3.75+ GPA, only 62 got accepted.
http://officialguide.lsac.org/OFFGUIDE/pdf/lsac3987.pdf
"I could get into the top business schools by getting in through investment banking or consulting."
You do realize you have to interview for those jobs, right?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376309)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:28 AM Author: Gaped Forum
YLS is uncertain for pretty much anyone, and it would be so for me, too.
I would ace the interviews, no problem. I'm only a prick online in places where it doesn't matter.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376341) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:21 AM Author: Massive menage
"You don't know this girl but she's a fucking awful person, I despise her, and I always will,"
You managed to come to that conclusion after knowing her for just six days? That's amazing... I guess you used the same superior intellect skills you used to determine that Joe is Satan himself without having ever met the guy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376818) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:59 AM Author: Massive menage
"More to the point, there was a different woman who *did* give me a chance, I met her a month later, but I wasn't ready for her because I was still getting over this bitch in my past."
Who knew six days could have that kind of profound impact on someone's life.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376582) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: Massive menage
"YLS is uncertain for pretty much anyone, and it would be so for me, too."
So in other words, you were wrong above about a 175 LSAT making you a shoo-in at any law school.
"I would ace the interviews, no problem. I'm only a prick online in places where it doesn't matter."
Okay, so what's stopping you from sending your resume to McKinsey, going on an interview, and proving all of us wrong?
Oh wait, nevermind... We all know that the big Carleton conspiracy that made your life a living hell for four years has infiltrated the ranks of the McKinsey HR department, as well as the HR department of every consulting and IBank in the world.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376514) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:55 AM Author: Gaped Forum
"Okay, so what's stopping you from sending your resume to McKinsey, going on an interview, and proving all of us wrong?"
The fact that, at least right now, I don't want to go there, and that I think it's wrong to give people false leads.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376539) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:33 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
"if i had"
"im sure i could"
right
i could play in the NBA too, i just dont like the lifestyle. too much about the "bling-bling" and not enough about the love of the game.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376366)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:03 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
OK. Let's pretend here that you are extremely intelligent. This might be stretching it, but this is the assumption. There are three "tracks" you can choose:
1) You work hard and acheive incredible things, rightfully drawing the respect and admiriation of everyone around you. This is the path Joe chose.
2) You do very little work and slide through whatever task that faces you through intelligence alone. You are moderately succesful (t15 undergrad, t6 law, etc...) but very relaxed. Hang out with friends. Watch movies. Get drunk. Smoke pot. Retire early. You may not live up to your potential, but you can at least relax and enjoy life.
(this is the path I like to think I am taking, through an inability to sustain myself at the #1 level for anywhere longer than a month at a time)
3) You are too high strung to enjoy 2 but too worthless to acheive 1. You spend your whole life bitching and complaining about what you "could do" and wonder why you die miserable, alone, and unknown. 2's laugh at you and 1's don't even know you exist.
Which one are you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376611)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:30 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
lets get cracking on these accomplishments. list them.
and shit like "getting into x school and getting an x GPA" doesnt count because
1) 75% of people on this board did the same or better
2) thats not an accomplishment. see the "sliding by on intelligence" in #2
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376898) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:33 AM Author: Gaped Forum
Actually, UW PhD is more selective than any undergrad. Anyway, I generally consider school admissions not worth bragging about, so I agree with you.
I've won national writing contests, was a frequent columnist for college publications. (I need to get cracking on some more widespread things, but right now I don't have the time.) I've written a card game that has been published in a Japanese print magazine, without me submitting it. (They made initial contact.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376926) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:41 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
Really?
a card game you say?
well, i thought we were comparing a self-made millionare rhodes scholar to just a NORMAL bitter grad student, not a bitter grad student who made a card game.
well never mind then. I am truly impressed with your prestige.
I wonder if anyone has made a Wikipedia entry about your game.
That would be even a higher level of prestige. a godlike level.
(PS- I really am not trying to be mean. I'm sure its a great game. But just realize when someone has acheived more than you, and be happy for them. Nobody will think less of you for it.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376983)
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:43 AM Author: Gaped Forum
"But just realize when someone has acheived more than you, and be happy for them."
Lots of people have achieved more than me, but some TTT clown outfit of a business doesn't cut it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376997) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:49 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
Let's phrase this in a Jeopordy question:
Answer: 1,000 more impressive than anything you have ever done or received in your entire life.
Question: what is THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
Also, I am going to bed. But a few days from now, when you wonder why you are feeling lonely and that girl hasn't called, please re-read this thread. Maybe you'll get it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377049) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:47 AM Author: Massive menage
You know what's even more selective than any UW PhD program?
THE FUCKING RHODES SCHOLARSHIP
Some Japanese print magazine writing about your card game without you submitting it is an accomplishment? Dude, Joe's business was on the fucking COVER of Fortune Small Business magazine and was on CNN, and that was just stuff that happened this month.
And I can't believe you're actually citing publishing in your student newspaper as an accomplishment. It's not like those places reject anyone, especially at a place as small as Carleton.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377038) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:52 AM Author: Gaped Forum
"Dude, Joe's business was on the fucking COVER of Fortune Small Business magazine and was on CNN, and that was just stuff that happened this month."
I don't suck cock, never did and never will.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377070) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 1:58 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
The self-aggrandizement. Easily.
This is almost cosmic. Pensive spews so much hate that an equal and opposite reaction has to spill out somewhere to compensate.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377122) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:07 AM Author: Massive menage
"Technically I lost that subargument, but the fact that Joe Caltech is a loser with a TTT cow-fuck business still stands,"
And yet, that "loser" won a Rhodes, has gotten into every undergrad and grad program he's ever applied to, got a 3.8+ GPA at Caltech, published a very successful book that got multiple printings, and his "TTT cow-fuck business" wins countless entrepreneurial competitions, makes a lot of money, and gets significant media attention. Plus some other stuff I've probably forgotten.
Yeah, what a loser. I'd hate to have that kind of lifestyle.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376207) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:12 AM Author: Gaped Forum
The "multiple printings" were the result of stragetic sycophantry, and that's a fact. His PrepMe company is not only an embarrassment to him, his family, and his community, but also to anyone who lives within 50 miles of any place that fucker has ever been. It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history.
That said, his GPA and undergrad are impressive, as is his graduate degree, but that's about all he has that's real.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376240) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:18 AM Author: Massive menage
"The "multiple printings" were the result of stragetic sycophantry, and that's a fact."
Yeah, cause everyone knows that all the major publishing companies just *love* to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars printing multiple runs of books that they know won't sell just because an author is good at flattery.
"His PrepMe company is not only an embarrassment to him, his family, and his community, but also to anyone who lives within 50 miles of any place that fucker has ever been. It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history."
Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
"but that's about all he has that's real."
And the Rhodes.
And the millions he has earned or will soon earn from his business.
Oh, and don't forget his friends and romantic relationships (the kind that last more than six days).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376271) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:25 AM Author: Gaped Forum
On publishing companies, I'm sure it only sold because of promotional and distributional support that it got because of his flattery. Let's face the fact: he's not a good writer, and there are plenty of high-scorers out there who could write a better book.
The Rhodes he got on account of his phony, unprestigious book. If the Rhodes Committee values, as sometimes asserted, being "good with people", then this proves him to be a cheater because he would only get it by sending someone else to do his interview. (For the record, I'm not accusing him of cheating; I'm arguing that the Rhodes Committee doesn't care about interpersonal skill, citing him as case-in-point.)
If he earns millions from his business, I don't care, because he'll never get into respectable society with a business called "PrepMe". Just the name is vomit-inducing.
As for his girlfriends, well anyone can get a girlfriend if he lowers his standards, so I'm not impressed at all.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376319) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:39 AM Author: Massive menage
"On publishing companies, I'm sure it only sold because of promotional and distributional support that it got because of his flattery."
Do you know *anything* about how the publishing industry works? Unless you're J.K. Rawlings, you're not going to get any promotional help from anyone on the basis of flattery, especially for something like test prep that's non-fiction and appeals to a niche audience.
"Let's face the fact: he's not a good writer, and there are plenty of high-scorers out there who could write a better book."
And yet his book not only got published, but sold extremely well, to the point where there were multiple printings, which is very rare, particularly for a first time author. Guess he must've done something right (or are you going to tell me that his mom bought 50,000 copies of the book to drive up sales?).
"The Rhodes he got on account of his phony, unprestigious book."
Yeah, I'm sure the Rhodes Committee ignored the 3.8+ from CalTech and the Michigan's master's degree and based their entire decision on a book he wrote more than four years ago before he even started college. After all, everyone knows that Cecil Rhodes had a hardon for SAT prep.
"If the Rhodes Committee values, as sometimes asserted, being "good with people", then this proves him to be a cheater because he would only get it by sending someone else to do his interview."
I take it you base this on your intimate firsthand experience of knowing and interacting with the guy in person?
Seems like Joe is one crafty bastard, not only pulling the wool over the eyes of a publishing company and all the judges of the entrepreneurial competitions he's won, but also tricking the entire Rhodes Committee. I'll never know how he can sleep at night!
But good thing we have Mike Church, the one who hasn't had a sip of Joe's Kool-Aid, to set all of us straight!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376410) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:47 AM Author: Gaped Forum
"Seems like Joe is one crafty bastard, not only pulling the wool over the eyes of a publishing company and all the judges of the entrepreneurial competitions he's won, but also tricking the entire Rhodes Committee."
You're finally starting to get it. I'm glad to see this. We've made some serious progress, and though I'm limited in how much I can help you, I have faith that if you listen to me, you'll eventually know how the world works.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376465) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:23 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
"It's the most embarrassing business in recent American history."
Uh, hello, Enron? Are you even on Earth anymore, or have you taken up permanent residence on the Planet Jealous?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376308) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:42 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
It's a stupid name, but less pretentious than something like "Princeton Review." And what's in a name anyway? Lots of brands have stupid-sounding names. Shouldn't someone as sophisticated as yourself know to look deeper?
In fact, doesn't the company's success while saddled with a stupid name make it seem even better?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376434) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: Massive menage
Yup, the "PrepMe" name has really hurt them! That's probably why they make no money, get no media coverage, and lose every business competition they enter.
Oh wait...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376445) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:44 AM Author: mentally impaired market internal respiration
its better than your company which is apparently
"stuck up grad students who cant handle that someone has actually acheived more than them in life" inc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376452) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 12:48 AM Author: black apoplectic mexican gaming laptop
don't forget ambition. it's sorta the analagous thing in mike's life to joe's prepme stuff. i guess the difference is that people pay joe for prepme, while mike has to wheedle and beg people to play ambition, and then does stuff like whine and throw a hissy fit when they leave early.
prepme needs a new name. sounds like something a 5th grader came up with in 10 seconds. first real point mike's made here, and oh but is it ever minor.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376473) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:09 AM Author: Gaped Forum
"mike has to wheedle and beg people to play ambition, and then does stuff like whine and throw a hissy fit when they leave early."
Wrong. Anyway, you've never met me and are talking out of your ass.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377238) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:12 AM Author: Massive menage
"Wrong. Anyway, you've never met me and are talking out of your ass."
You having never met Joe hasn't stopped you from bashing him over the course of 200+ posts tonight.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377261) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 2:39 AM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
From this thread at least, it seems like you're alone in that view.
I think most of the posters tonight would agree that YOU exist to be bashed. You seem to like it, even.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377477) |
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Date: November 25th, 2005 3:01 AM Author: Gaped Forum
What are you talking about?
Yeah, I got into some flamewars back then, and they were fun, but that's over now.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4377607) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 11:47 PM Author: Mind-boggling ivory toilet seat bawdyhouse
You got some pretty detailed answers out of him.
It's weird to see the board again back when it was more about colleges than... other stuff.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4376106) |
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Date: April 27th, 2006 7:31 PM Author: black apoplectic mexican gaming laptop
ironically, that harvard girl actually won the writing award he brags about in this thread.
by contrast, i assume her chances at a rhodes are shot after this.
insecure douche about sums it up for pensive though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#5666705) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 5:54 PM Author: Multi-colored internet-worthy parlor
Why don't you focus on something less specific than a Rhodes Scholarship? It sounds like a stretch, especially since you do not go to Yale, Harvard, MIT, CalTech, Stanford etc .
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374216) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 6:02 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
I want to study Health and Health Policy at Oxford, please help me.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374250) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 6:08 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
Hi everyone.
So I am interested in AIDS/HIV but do not have enough of a background to pursue HIV research from a biological standpoint. So I am thinking that I will focus on the anthropological and sociological effects and do field research with that? What do you guys think? What kind of a research project could I come up with that focuses on HIV/AIDS in some way, and that is significant?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374281) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:36 PM Author: misanthropic locale Subject: if you're serious
Why don't you browse through other people's projects to get ideas? It's easy to come up with stuff when you look at other projects and see what's wrong with them.
This is how I came up with a three month research project last year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374598) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:42 PM Author: misanthropic locale
Well, I combed through NSF, because they post their grant info. and the abstracts of the projects on their website. I also talked to profs, who referred me to other people, who in turn referred me to other people.
Tell me more specifically; what type of project are you thinking of? What field, and in what breadth?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374630) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 7:45 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
I would like to do a research project on HIV/AIDS. Anthropology-based. (I do not have much of a scientific background.) That is all that I know. :(
thank you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374650) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 8:16 PM Author: misanthropic locale
But what about it? "Anthropology based" could mean anything.
If you really have no idea whatsoever, than you should do a little reading to at least familiarize yourself with issues.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374836) |
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Date: November 24th, 2005 9:25 PM Author: Fragrant box office
There's nothing interesting that an individual can introduce in the HIV/AIDS field. Seriously. It's been done to death. You're better off working in a lesser-known, less trendy subject area.
If you drop the "significant" part, there's lots of shit you can do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4375318) |
Date: November 24th, 2005 7:52 PM Author: Alcoholic carmine spot
don't go to harvard. they had 0 rhodes scholars this year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#4374684) |
Date: July 11th, 2006 3:37 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
oh wow, who bumped this thread? For an update, I'm right now in Tanzania doing HIV/AIDS research with my concentration being in the field of biological anthropology. I'm now in Dar Es Salaam but I will be traveling to small villages (particularly one small village that has had an unexpectedly large increase in HIV+ population) as I plan to focus my research on rural Southern Tanzania
I still want to be a rhodes scholar but if that doesn't work out i'm going to apply for fulbright or some other international fellowships because I want to do something with HIV
anyway, internet connection here is so slow :( Bye!!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187513) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 3:58 PM Author: cheese-eating wrinkle
cool, I did my thesis on environmental policy in Southern Tanzania. you should visit Ruaha and Katavi if you're not flame.
edit: what TTT do you attend?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187655) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:02 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
Oh really what did you do? What was your thesis for?
Also I don't really attend a TTT.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187683) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:19 PM Author: cheese-eating wrinkle
"what did you do?"
Won't specify, but you may read about it soon.
"What was your thesis for?"
Do you know what a thesis is? Silly question.
"Also I don't really attend a TTT."
Anything outside of HYP is TTT. If you prefer, I can pose the question differently: What semi-TTT do you attend?
Your internet connect really seems to be struggling.
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187785)
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:24 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
"Won't specify, but you may read about it soon."
I doubt it. Considering the fact that you are a TTT, I am sure your thesis was on the same level.
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187825) |
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:35 PM Author: cheese-eating wrinkle
I actually graduated summa, but nice try. I'm sorry you find reality so harsh.
But enough -- I'll leave you to play in your little fantasy world.
hth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187893)
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Date: July 11th, 2006 4:34 PM Author: chocolate resort
Aspiring trolls, take note: this thread produced two fully independent specimens of outrageous flame!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187891) |
Date: July 11th, 2006 4:40 PM Author: Iridescent electric hunting ground
final goodbye to this thread and xoxo. maybe i'll post back when i am a physician working on hiv/aids issues, that is if xoxo exists then ;)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=305275&forum_id=2#6187938)
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