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kanye west's new album is gonna be the shit
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Date: January 10th, 2016 1:14 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum calling it now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29561949) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:07 PM Author: insanely creepy peach striped hyena boltzmann (asian) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595965) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:12 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum well known board nord brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595997) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:28 PM Author: dashing tan keepsake machete brunch (guy who thinks "sampling" and autotune is art) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29596091) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:29 PM Author: flirting hateful school cafeteria trust fund Sampling, yes. Autotune, no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29596096) |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 12:53 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum I like rap man what can I tell you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29600771) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:27 PM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623473) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:37 PM Author: pea-brained main people parlor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAfsgM_i8O4&t=1m28s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623525) |
Date: January 14th, 2016 1:29 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Agreed, dude. Some serious explodinghead.gif shit coming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594374) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 1:32 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Here's a version of "Wolves," a track Kanye has previewed a couple times, that he's said will be the first track on the new album.
I took a few snippets of the track and spliced them together to create (potentially outdated) full length version of it.
It features Sia and Vic Mensa.
Stream and download it here: http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/jJUaexJU/file.html
(SoundCloud has repeatedly taken it down, so my apologies for using zippy.) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 1:33 PM Author: chocolate resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594402) |
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Date: February 12th, 2016 5:05 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum not really feeling this. needs drums (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29814490) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 1:33 PM Author: chocolate resort remember when yeezus changed the bort forever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594405) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 2:01 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum I hated yeezus tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594630) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 2:11 PM Author: chocolate resort there are millions of yeezus threads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594729) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 2:16 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum i know I thought it was a joke based on how badly the album sucked but how all the critics said it was great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594762) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:33 PM Author: Federal Violet Nursing Home Ahead of its time similar to 808 and heartbreak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595279) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:35 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Yeah dude. So fucking funny to see all the Drake fanbois get all butthurt over the fact Kanye blows him out of the water.
It's like uh, yall Drake stans realize that Drake's *entire* discography apes 808s, right? |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:32 PM Author: maniacal turdskin I did at first too.
The sound palette he used in Cruel Summer and Yeezus is intentionally grating and "difficult" to get into. He was pretty unabashed about it; he wanted to do something that isn't radio-friendly bangers. He's been on the record about how he wanted to do something avant-garde. He even gloated to one of his longtime collaborators and producers about the fact Yeezus doesn't have a single snare beat until track six.
But over time, in my experience, the harshness lost its potency and thus my aversion to it, and that enabled me to "access" the "hidden gems" within Yeezus.
I had a lot of friends tell me I was crazy for praising the album so much, and I recommended starting at "Hold My Liquor" and listening through and ending with "New Slaves" in order to get into it. He front-loaded the album with the harshest four songs, so I think it's a credited strategy to avoid them initially and see if you can't come to enjoy them over time. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:14 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum cruel summer was basically all radio-friendly bangers I've given yeezus plenty of chances--music is subjective and I just don't like that album. 808s gets more play in my car |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:32 PM Author: maniacal turdskin While I concede that Yeezus is significantly harsher, the two albums have the same DNA. See, e.g., the movement away from MBDTF's maximalism in favor of stripped down minimal production and the abundant use of dancehall samples for tracks' hooks.
What's starkly distinct between the two is the prominence of drums/beats; Cruel Summer thumps while Yeezus almost entirely avoids drums—both bass and snares. "Bound 2" is a good example: sure, it was a single, but the track totally lacks a drum beat, which all but assured it wouldn't be a radio hit.
I see where you're coming from, though, and you're certainly not alone. I wanted to turn off the album a minute into "On Sight" the first time I put the album on, but now I think "On Sight" is one of the best things he's ever done. |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:37 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum on sight and blood on the leaves are the only songs I really like on it. bound 2 and hold my liquor are ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595719) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:33 PM Author: maniacal turdskin And speaking of "Bound 2," here's a demo of it—dubbed "Bound 1"—which is what it sounded like before Rick Rubin got his hands on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VxTR4rlsw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595691) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:37 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595721) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:38 PM Author: flirting hateful school cafeteria trust fund >He's been on the record about how he wanted to do something avant-garde
So he went and ripped of Death Grips production? |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:04 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Sure man, if that's what you want to think — go right ahead. Nothing I'm going to write will change your mind.
But if knew much/anything about the processing behind Yeezus, it'd be abundantly clear that Kanye wasn't aping anyone. He showed up to Shangri La with something like five hours of music and explicitly told Rubin to avoid adding more sounds and rather wanted him to take as many out as possible.
So if there's anyone you insist on hanging the "aping Death Grips' sound" noose around, it'd be Rubin. |
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Date: February 16th, 2016 9:56 PM Author: magenta narrow-minded step-uncle's house french chef agree with this. yeezus takes some getting use to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29846877) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 1:33 PM Author: hyperactive heaven psychic Ye, for all his bullshit, is a talented fuck in the studio. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594407) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:33 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Most talented producer in the game and has been for a long time. Not an easy dude to like and his lyrics and flow are often lazy and whack, but when it comes to creating sounds, he's peerless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595275) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:42 PM Author: fragrant party of the first part did he produce shit like "Make you a Celebrity Overnight" and stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595366) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:48 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595400) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:49 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Here's an incomplete wiki page of his production discography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West_production_discography
Here's a list of just the singles he produced:
2000 "The Truth" (Beanie Sigel) 2001 "Izzo (H.O.V.A.)" (Jay-Z) "Takeover" (Jay-Z) "Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)" (Jay-Z) "Never Change" (Jay-Z) 2002 "'03 Bonnie and Clyde" (Jay-Z featuring Beyoncé) "Get By" (Talib Kweli) "B R Right" (Trina featuring Ludacris) 2003 "Stand Up" (Ludacris featuring Shawnna) "Knock Knock" (Monica) "You Don't Know My Name" (Alicia Keys) "Through the Wire" (Kanye West) "Slow Jamz" (Kanye West featuring Twista & Jamie Foxx) "Lucifer" Jay-Z "Came Back For You" (Lil' Kim) 2004 "I Want You" (Janet Jackson) "Overnight Celebrity" (Twista featuring Kanye West) "Talk About Our Love" (Brandy featuring Kanye West) "All Falls Down" (Kanye West) "Jesus Walks" (Kanye West) "Selfish" (Slum Village featuring Kanye West & John Legend) "The New Workout Plan" (Kanye West) "This Way" (Dilated Peoples featuring Kanye West) "Used to Love U" (John Legend) "I Try" (Talib Kweli featuring Mary J. Blige) "I Changed My Mind" (Keyshia Cole) "Hold On" (Remix featuring Kanye West" (Dwele) "Hold On" (Remix featuring Kanye West & Consequence) (Dwele) 2005 "The Corner" (Common) "Diamonds from Sierra Leone" (Kanye West) "Go" (Common featuring Kanye West) "Dreams" (The Game) "Gold Digger" (Kanye West featuring Jamie Foxx) "Testify" (Common) "Heard 'Em Say" (Kanye West featuring Adam Levine) "Outta Here" (Britney Spears featuring Kanye West) 2006 "Drive Slow" (Kanye featuring Paul Wall & GLC) "Grammy Family" (DJ Khaled featuring Consequence, Kanye West, & John Legend) "Heaven" (John Legend) 2007 "Wouldn't Get Far" (The Game featuring Kanye West) "The Game" (Common) "The People" (Common) "Can't Tell Me Nothing" (Kanye West) "Stronger" (Kanye West) "Good Life" (Kanye West featuring T-Pain) "Drivin' Me Wild" (Common featuring Lily Allen) "Flashing Lights" (Kanye West featuring Dwele) 2008 "Homecoming" (Kanye West featuring Chris Martin) "Swagga Like Us" (T.I. & Jay-Z featuring Kanye West & Lil Wayne) "Love Lockdown" (Kanye West) "Heartless" (Kanye West) "Brooklyn Go Hard" (Jay-Z featuring Santigold) 2009 "Amazing" (Kanye West featuring Young Jeezy) "Paranoid" (Kanye West featuring Mr Hudson) "The Big Screen" (GLC featuring Kanye West) "We Alright" (Joe Young featuring Kanye West) "Make Her Say" (Kid Cudi featuring Kanye West & Common) "Run This Town" (Jay-Z featuring Rihanna & Kanye West) "The Jackass Song" (will.i.am) "Young Forever" (Jay-Z featuring Mr. Hudson) "Find Your Love" (Drake) "Ayyy girl" (JYJ featuring Kanye West) "Power" (Kanye West) "Runaway" (Kanye West featuring Pusha T) "Monster" (Kanye West featuring Jay-Z, Rick Ross, Nicki Minaj & Bon Iver) 2011 "All of the Lights" (Kanye West featuring Rihanna) "Otis" (Jay-Z and Kanye West featuring Otis Redding) "Lift Off" (Jay-Z and Kanye West featuring Beyoncé) "Lost in the World" (Kanye West featuring Bon Iver) "Niggas in Paris" (Jay-Z and Kanye West) "Party" (Beyoncé featuring Andre 3000 or J. Cole) "Gotta Have It" (Jay-Z and Kanye West) 2012 "Mercy" (Kanye West, Pusha T, Big Sean & 2 Chainz) "New God Flow" (Kanye West, Pusha T) "Birthday Song" (2 Chainz featuring Kanye West) "Clique" (Kanye West, Big Sean, Jay-Z) "Pain" (Pusha T featuring Future) 2014 "40 Mill" (Tyga) "Lunch Money" (Pusha T) 2015 "Bitch Better Have My Money" (Rihanna) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 2:39 PM Author: Blathering macaca so like all the others then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594938) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:33 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595278) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 2:41 PM Author: Passionate Travel Guidebook Circlehead Kanye is the GOATPOTUS current rapper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29594949) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 3:33 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595280) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:35 PM Author: flirting hateful school cafeteria trust fund MAYBE producer. He is inarguably a SHIT TIER rapper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595708) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:37 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum gotta be #1 all time producer on the mic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595727) |
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Date: February 8th, 2016 1:08 PM Author: Heady buck-toothed death wish you literally forgot about dre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29780488) |
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Date: February 8th, 2016 1:35 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum dre is up there. honorable mention to j dilla, q tip, havoc, diamond d but to me, Kanye's combine production/rapping catalogs beat any of them |
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Date: January 15th, 2016 12:56 AM Author: Passionate Travel Guidebook Circlehead Its a total package type deal. Honestly, I like his corny ass rhymes. But the production value is so top notch that he's in his own stratosphere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29600778) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:25 PM Author: wonderful flickering parlour Kanye fucking sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595615) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 4:36 PM Author: charismatic scarlet pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595714) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:05 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Cogent, penetrating analysis! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595954) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:26 PM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business (Guy analyzing and idolizing a dumb nigger's ttt "music") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623466) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:09 PM Author: Passionate Travel Guidebook Circlehead Eat a bag of dicks you Drake loving fucboi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29595972) |
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Date: February 16th, 2016 9:56 PM Author: magenta narrow-minded step-uncle's house french chef if he's really a drake loving fucboi he should know that drake was 100% influenced by kanye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29846888) |
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Date: January 14th, 2016 5:15 PM Author: Pearly Judgmental Address Jewess cr
lol@xo jews and asians |
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Date: February 16th, 2016 9:54 PM Author: magenta narrow-minded step-uncle's house french chef ljl at your shit taste (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29846863) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:19 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Posted another new free track this morning: "No More Parties In LA" featuring Kendrick Lamar.
Stream it here: https://soundcloud.com/kanyewest/nomorepartiesinla
Definitely worth checking out Ye's lyrics:
Friday night tryna make it into the city Breakneck speeds, passenger seat something pretty Thinking back to how I got here in the first place Second class bitches wouldn't let me on first base A backpack nigga with luxury taste buds And the Louis Vuitton store, got all of my pay stubs Got pussy from beats I did for niggas more famous When did I become A list? I wasn't even on a list Strippers get invited to where they only get hired When I get on my Steve Jobs, somebody gon' get fired I was uninspired since Lauryn Hill retired And 3 Stacks, man, you preach it to the choir Any rumor you heard about me was true and legendary I done got Lewinsky and paid secretaries For all my niggas with babies by bitches That use their kids as meal tickets Not knowing the disconnect from the father The next generation will be the real victims I can't fault 'em really I remember Amber told my boy no matter what happens she ain't going back to Philly Back to our regularly scheduled programmin' Of week content of slow jammin' But don't worry, this one's so jammin' You know it, L.A., it's so jammin' I be thinkin' every day Mulholland Drive, need to put up some god damn barricades I be paranoid every time The pressure, the problem ain't I be drivin' The problem is I be textin' My psychiatrist got kids that I inspired First song they played for me was 'bout their friend that just died Textin' and drivin' down Mulholland Drive That's why I'd rather take the 405 I be worried 'bout my daughter, I be worried 'bout Kim But Saint is baby Ye, I ain't worried 'bout him I had my life threatened by best friends who had selfish intents What I'm supposed to do? Ride around with a bulletproof car and some tints? Every agent I know know I hate agents I'm too black, I'm too vocal, I'm too flagrant Something smellin' like shit, that's the new fragrance It's just me, I do it my way, bitch Some days I'm in my Yeezys, some days I'm in my Vans If I knew y'all made plans I wouldn't have popped the Xans I know some fans who thought I wouldn't rap like this again But the writer's block is over, emcees cancel your plans I'm 38 years old, a 8 year old with rich nigga problems Tell my wife that I hate the road so I ain't never drivin' It took 6 months to take the Maybach all matted out And my assistant crashed as soon as they backed it out Got damn, got up of fade, I might slam Pink fur, got Nori dressing like Cam, thank God for me Whole family gettin' money, thank God for E! I love rockin' jewelry, a whole neck full Bitches say he funny and disrespectful I feel like Pablo when I'm workin' on my shoes I feel like Pablo when I see me on the news I feel like Pablo when I'm workin' on my house Tell 'em party's in here, we don't need to go out We need the turbo thots, high speed, turbo thots Drop-dro-dro-dro-drop it like Robocop She brace herself and hold my stomach, good dick'll do that She keep pushin' me back, good dick'll do that She push me back when the dick go too deep This good dick'll put your ass to sleep Get money, money, money, money Big, big money, money, money, money And as far as real friends, tell my cousins I love 'em Even the one that stole the laptop, you dirty motherfucker |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:22 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Best lines imo:
I be worried 'bout my daughter, I be worried 'bout Kim / But Saint is baby Ye, I ain't worried 'bout him
I know some fans who thought I wouldn't rap like this again / But the writer's block is over, emcees cancel your plans
Pink fur, got Nori dressing like Cam [reference: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZAdHQ6W8AApx11.png:large ]
And again referencing the cousin who stole his laptop (which he rapped about in "Real Friends"):
And as far as real friends, tell my cousins I love 'em / Even the one that stole the laptop, you dirty motherfucker |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:28 PM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business (85 iq bro) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623478) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:55 PM Author: maniacal turdskin Why the hate man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623631) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 12:56 PM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business Nigger rap sucks are you're retarded for supporting this kike product and contributing to the decline of society (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623636) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 1:05 PM Author: maniacal turdskin u seem well-adjusted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29623687) |
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Date: January 19th, 2016 2:49 AM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business (Wigger) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29629281) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 2:06 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum (guy making America great again by bitching about niggers, kikes, and rap on the internet) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29624050) |
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Date: January 19th, 2016 2:49 AM Author: Charcoal misunderstood place of business (Wigger) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29629283) |
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Date: January 19th, 2016 7:24 AM Author: maniacal turdskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29629616) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 2:43 PM Author: supple awkward fat ankles center how do you feel about that song where he speaks to himself through his dead mother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29624346) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 2:47 PM Author: maniacal turdskin I love it. I think it's incredible.
I can't even begin to imagine how difficult writing those lyrics was. Baring your soul to the entire world is inconceivable to me.
Of all the tracks he's officially released since Yeezus, "Only One" stands head-and-shoulders above the others, imo.
What do you think about it? |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 2:51 PM Author: supple awkward fat ankles center didn't paul mccartney write most of the lyrics? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29624419) |
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Date: January 18th, 2016 3:20 PM Author: maniacal turdskin No, I don't believe so. McCartney co-produced the track and, I believe, plays the piano.
But Rick Rubin certainly seems to indicate the lyrics were all Kanye:
>> Kanye is a combination of careful and spontaneous. He’ll find a theme he likes quickly, and then live with that for a while, not necessarily filling in all the words until later. At the end, he’ll fill in all the gaps.
He was upset at one point when I said that he wrote the lyrics quickly. He’s right — they percolate for a long time, he gets the phrasing into his brain, lives with it, and then lines come up. It definitely starts from this very spontaneous thing.
On Only One, a lot of those lyrics came out free-form, ad-libs. The song is essentially live, written in the moment. Some of the words were later improved, but most of it was stream of consciousness, just Kanye being in the moment. <<
http://genius.com/4830074 |
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Date: January 19th, 2016 6:55 AM Author: milky cracking station rigor nigger crap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29629573) |
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Date: February 8th, 2016 12:45 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum the album, waves, will be released the same day that the detection of gravitational waves is first announced (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29780279) |
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Date: February 12th, 2016 5:01 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle forum no physical CDs till next week. im pissed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3092846&forum_id=2#29814481) |
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