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Arizona Summit: The Worst Law School in America?

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/05/law-school-completely-derails...
odious point
  05/20/16
LSAT percentiles for Fall 2015 class: 25th: 140 (~37 ques...
odious point
  05/20/16
i think i got a 156 on a cold practice test with zero prep w...
bright corn cake
  05/20/16
You probably could have gotten some money from Arizona Summi...
odious point
  05/20/16
their median GPA is like 2.8 also. it would be pretty 180...
bright corn cake
  05/20/16
(Saul Goodman)
Autistic philosopher-king
  05/20/16
Go Land Crabs!
odious point
  05/20/16
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Bearded jew
  10/17/17
Unwitting humblepwn
black affirmative action athletic conference
  10/20/16
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Supple Lilac Principal's Office Juggernaut
  06/23/17
omfg at accepting anyone with a 140.
kink-friendly old irish cottage
  05/20/16
"What was your score?" "Better than chance...
odious point
  05/20/16
My law school just hired an Arizona Summit law grad as an of...
soul-stirring chad friendly grandma
  05/20/16
Seems about right.
odious point
  05/20/16
(Arizona Summit Law school student)
Apoplectic flatulent deer antler
  08/16/16
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Dashing Corner
  08/17/16
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metal anal wrinkle
  03/29/17
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Navy stimulating generalized bond sneaky criminal
  05/25/18
How evil are the professors who are complicit in the dry ass...
odious point
  05/20/16
tbf those profs are probably barely employable themselves
kink-friendly old irish cottage
  05/20/16
...
Lemon Reading Party Rehab
  05/20/16
Meh -- there are a TON of sleazy bullshit industries.
Stirring nursing home
  05/20/16
So are you saying they're just little Eichmanns?
odious point
  05/20/16
I'm saying we're all scumbags.
Stirring nursing home
  05/20/16
Touro is the worst
poppy bat-shit-crazy institution
  05/20/16
Go on.
odious point
  05/20/16
Fucksberg College of Law
metal anal wrinkle
  06/17/16
they still run old school confidence schemes in arizona.
Razzmatazz Library Half-breed
  05/20/16
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Lemon Reading Party Rehab
  05/20/16
...
odious point
  06/17/16
In the opinion of xo, what is the bottom lsat-score for bein...
mustard out-of-control partner
  06/17/16
155-160
shimmering church toilet seat
  06/17/16
percentile?
mustard out-of-control partner
  06/17/16
...
Lemon Reading Party Rehab
  06/17/16
of test takers or of those admitted to law schools?
mustard out-of-control partner
  06/17/16
Lawyer, 151 Judge, 167
metal anal wrinkle
  06/17/16
can it be worse than Thomas Jefferson? 'cause that school is...
floppy hideous shitlib toaster
  06/17/16
so, as an lsat score of 155-160/75-80 percentile is necessar...
mustard out-of-control partner
  06/17/16
I think you need at least 160 to be decent. There are lots o...
Disrespectful Dog Poop
  06/17/16
it takes around a 75-80% MCAT score to be admitted to any US...
bossy private investor
  10/18/17
Lol, it's a fucking UBE state. So it's not even like how ra...
Crystalline hairraiser messiness
  06/17/16
(Hillary Clinton) nvm it was the DC bar she failed, carry...
Beady-eyed Pearl Center
  03/29/17
Failing, For-Profit Law School Announces Plans To Affiliate ...
odious point
  08/16/16
People's College of Law if it still exists is the worst
titillating theater stage electric furnace
  08/16/16
yeah but PCOL is like 4000 bucks a year while Arizona Summit...
Maroon den
  08/17/16
The ABA allows for profit law schools?
twinkling set newt
  08/17/16
where do they fall on the cooley rankings?
laughsome garnet party of the first part
  08/17/16
plz look into this. thank
odious point
  10/20/16
UPDATE: First-time pass rate now under 25% http://aboveth...
odious point
  10/18/16
Boomers gonna boom The law school now requires that all s...
french dysfunction
  10/20/16
Are law school graduation rates published like they are for ...
odious point
  10/20/16
ABA puts Arizona Summit on probation because of its pure shi...
odious point
  03/29/17
isn't Cooley the worst?
Beady-eyed Pearl Center
  03/29/17
It was the quintessential TTT school in the old PR/XO days. ...
odious point
  10/17/17
I actually know one of these grads but she graduated a numbe...
disgusting brethren
  03/29/17
Job listing for a new dean. https://www.indeed.com/viewjo...
odious point
  06/23/17
list line is amazing. Have they hired anyone yet?
talented self-absorbed black woman
  10/17/17
I think I'll apply. I have experience in the education secto...
Painfully honest big trump supporter piazza
  10/17/17
https://abovethelaw.com/2017/10/this-law-schools-bar-exam-pa...
odious point
  10/17/17
how tough is the AZ bar
twinkling set newt
  10/17/17
Probably in the fat middle.
odious point
  10/18/17
Arizona Summit now suing the ABA for being unfair. http:/...
odious point
  05/25/18
...
vibrant bronze hunting ground gunner
  06/11/18
on a good day can someone randomly guess a 140 without even ...
Aquamarine lay
  06/11/18
ABA: "Following the May 10, 2018, appearance of Ariz...
odious point
  06/11/18
Fall 2016 140 143 148 2.55 2.96 3.31 NON-DISCOUNTED COST ...
metal anal wrinkle
  06/11/18
31.8% get legal jobs. That's $781,270 in education costs ...
odious point
  06/11/18
the lawsuit just got ten feet higher!
talented self-absorbed black woman
  06/11/18
i've met only one grad of the following schools and was conv...
Razzmatazz Library Half-breed
  06/11/18


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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:08 PM
Author: odious point

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/05/law-school-completely-derails-states-bar-exam-passage-rate/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520343)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:12 PM
Author: odious point

LSAT percentiles for Fall 2015 class:

25th: 140 (~37 questions out of 101, ~13th percentile)

50th: 143 (~42 questions out of 101, ~20th percentile)

75th: 148 (~50 questions out of 101, ~36th percentile)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520374)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:14 PM
Author: bright corn cake

i think i got a 156 on a cold practice test with zero prep when i was first curious about LS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520387)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:19 PM
Author: odious point

You probably could have gotten some money from Arizona Summit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520434)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:24 PM
Author: bright corn cake

their median GPA is like 2.8 also.

it would be pretty 180 if you knew say, junior year of undergrad that you had a GUARANTEED career, all you needed was to pass the bar. you could party the last two years of UG, take the LSAT hungover, get money from Arizona Summit, fuck hot AZ girls for three years, then get it together and pass the bar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520483)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:25 PM
Author: Autistic philosopher-king

(Saul Goodman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520491)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:26 PM
Author: odious point

Go Land Crabs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520499)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: Bearded jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462985)



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Date: October 20th, 2016 5:17 PM
Author: black affirmative action athletic conference

Unwitting humblepwn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31691012)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 3:32 PM
Author: Supple Lilac Principal's Office Juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#33626415)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:26 PM
Author: kink-friendly old irish cottage

omfg at accepting anyone with a 140.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520501)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:35 PM
Author: odious point

"What was your score?"

"Better than chance!"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520570)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:26 PM
Author: soul-stirring chad friendly grandma

My law school just hired an Arizona Summit law grad as an office assistant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520500)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:30 PM
Author: odious point

Seems about right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520526)



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Date: August 16th, 2016 8:14 PM
Author: Apoplectic flatulent deer antler

(Arizona Summit Law school student)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31202274)



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Date: August 17th, 2016 1:42 AM
Author: Dashing Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31205017)



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Date: March 29th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: metal anal wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#32946379)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Navy stimulating generalized bond sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36128898)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: odious point

How evil are the professors who are complicit in the dry ass fucking of those students?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520549)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:34 PM
Author: kink-friendly old irish cottage

tbf those profs are probably barely employable themselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520555)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:37 PM
Author: Lemon Reading Party Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520581)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:35 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home

Meh -- there are a TON of sleazy bullshit industries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520559)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:37 PM
Author: odious point

So are you saying they're just little Eichmanns?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520582)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:45 PM
Author: Stirring nursing home

I'm saying we're all scumbags.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520626)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:36 PM
Author: poppy bat-shit-crazy institution

Touro is the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520575)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:45 PM
Author: odious point

Go on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520625)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 8:58 PM
Author: metal anal wrinkle

Fucksberg College of Law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730749)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:36 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Half-breed

they still run old school confidence schemes in arizona.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520578)



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Date: May 20th, 2016 2:40 PM
Author: Lemon Reading Party Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30520600)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 6:15 PM
Author: odious point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30729804)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:16 PM
Author: mustard out-of-control partner

In the opinion of xo, what is the bottom lsat-score for being able to function as a useful lawyer? Judge?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730170)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:21 PM
Author: shimmering church toilet seat

155-160

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730200)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:22 PM
Author: mustard out-of-control partner

percentile?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730208)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:23 PM
Author: Lemon Reading Party Rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730215)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:24 PM
Author: mustard out-of-control partner

of test takers or of those admitted to law schools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730227)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 8:59 PM
Author: metal anal wrinkle

Lawyer, 151

Judge, 167

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730759)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:29 PM
Author: floppy hideous shitlib toaster

can it be worse than Thomas Jefferson? 'cause that school is a walking, talking criminal fraud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730242)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:35 PM
Author: mustard out-of-control partner

so, as an lsat score of 155-160/75-80 percentile is necessary(acc to xo) to be a useful lawyer, roughly which percentage of all US law school admittees and graduates, respectively, achieve these scores?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730262)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 8:33 PM
Author: Disrespectful Dog Poop

I think you need at least 160 to be decent. There are lots of retarded lawyers who shouldn't be doing this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730552)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: bossy private investor

it takes around a 75-80% MCAT score to be admitted to any US allopathic medical school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34468484)



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Date: June 17th, 2016 7:50 PM
Author: Crystalline hairraiser messiness

Lol, it's a fucking UBE state. So it's not even like how random states (e.g., Arkansas) will put together really tough bar exams that even non-retarded kids will fail.

AZ bar takers really are just retards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#30730332)



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Date: March 29th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Pearl Center

(Hillary Clinton)

nvm it was the DC bar she failed, carry on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#32946357)



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Date: August 16th, 2016 8:04 PM
Author: odious point

Failing, For-Profit Law School Announces Plans To Affiliate With ‘Major University’

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/08/failing-for-profit-law-school-announces-plans-to-affiliate-with-major-university/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31202212)



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Date: August 16th, 2016 8:15 PM
Author: titillating theater stage electric furnace

People's College of Law if it still exists is the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31202288)



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Date: August 17th, 2016 1:41 AM
Author: Maroon den

yeah but PCOL is like 4000 bucks a year while Arizona Summit is like 40,000 a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31205014)



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Date: August 17th, 2016 1:46 AM
Author: twinkling set newt

The ABA allows for profit law schools?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31205031)



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Date: August 17th, 2016 1:49 AM
Author: laughsome garnet party of the first part

where do they fall on the cooley rankings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31205041)



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Date: October 20th, 2016 5:08 PM
Author: odious point

plz look into this.

thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31690965)



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Date: October 18th, 2016 1:30 PM
Author: odious point

UPDATE: First-time pass rate now under 25%

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/10/law-school-posts-worst-bar-exam-passage-rates-in-its-existence-drags-down-entire-states-passage-rates/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31669657)



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Date: October 20th, 2016 5:20 PM
Author: french dysfunction

Boomers gonna boom

The law school now requires that all students with GPAs below a 3.33 take and pass a mock bar exam as a graduation requirement, knowing full well that such a requirement may preclude countless students from being able to graduate and further sully their otherwise abysmal bar exam passage rates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31691045)



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Date: October 20th, 2016 5:33 PM
Author: odious point

Are law school graduation rates published like they are for undergrad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#31691115)



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Date: March 29th, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: odious point

ABA puts Arizona Summit on probation because of its pure shit bar passage rates.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-education/2017/03/27/arizona-summit-law-school-probation-low-bar-passage-rates/99698686/

To regain compliance:

"At least 75 percent of a law school's graduates must pass the bar within five years of graduation; or a school must have a 75 percent pass rate for at least three of those five years."

Good luck!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#32946344)



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Date: March 29th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Pearl Center

isn't Cooley the worst?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#32946365)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: odious point

It was the quintessential TTT school in the old PR/XO days.

But it has much higher bar passage rates than Arizona Summit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462650)



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Date: March 29th, 2017 3:05 PM
Author: disgusting brethren

I actually know one of these grads but she graduated a number of years ago when the school merely had a "bad" reputation

She does shitlaw and probably makes 50 or 60k if I had to guess

Has also been posting anti Trump shit non stop since the election

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#32946456)



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Date: June 23rd, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: odious point

Job listing for a new dean.

https://www.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=d9ab3e634594eaa0

http://archive.is/x8ejZ

- "Although having had impressive bar examination outcomes for many years, the school in recent times has experienced a serious decline in this critical area."

- "The Council of the American Bar Association Section of Legal Education recently placed the school on probation, primarily due to lack of rigor in its admissions policy and academic program and processes."

- "Summit has been the subject of considerable negative publicity, especially in recent years as bar pass results declined."

- " Experience in legal education and law school administration is desirable, but is not an absolute requirement."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#33626404)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:33 PM
Author: talented self-absorbed black woman

list line is amazing. Have they hired anyone yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462655)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Painfully honest big trump supporter piazza

I think I'll apply. I have experience in the education sector.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462915)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: odious point

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/10/this-law-schools-bar-exam-passage-rates-are-embarrassing/

July 2017 Arizona bar passage: 25.7%

But only 35 people took it (probably the best of the best).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462639)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: twinkling set newt

how tough is the AZ bar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34462919)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 2:03 AM
Author: odious point

Probably in the fat middle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#34468463)



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Date: May 25th, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: odious point

Arizona Summit now suing the ABA for being unfair.

http://archive.azcentral.com/persistent/icimages/news/Summit%20ABA%20complaint.pdf

Note:

1 - The lawyers can figure out how to center titles. Get rid of the tabs, you morons.

2 - Arizona Summit is being represented by lawyers who went to law school at: University of Arizona (local counsel), Harvard, Harvard, and Harvard. Not even token representation from one of the FINE Arizona Summit grads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36128882)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: vibrant bronze hunting ground gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36222620)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: Aquamarine lay

on a good day can someone randomly guess a 140 without even reading the questions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36222656)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: odious point

ABA:

"Following the May 10, 2018, appearance of Arizona Summit Law School’s representatives before the Council and the review of both the written materials submitted on behalf of the Law School and statements made at the Council hearing, the Council voted to remove the Law School from the ABA list of approved law schools."

https://bit.ly/2l1XjPq



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36225033)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: metal anal wrinkle

Fall 2016 140 143 148 2.55 2.96 3.31

NON-DISCOUNTED COST

$248,444

2017 GRADUATES

151

Large Firm 2%

Small Firm 18.5%

Federal Clerkship 0.7%

Public Service 10.6%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36225063)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: odious point

31.8% get legal jobs.

That's $781,270 in education costs per legal job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36225086)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: talented self-absorbed black woman

the lawsuit just got ten feet higher!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36225249)



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Date: June 11th, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Library Half-breed

i've met only one grad of the following schools and was convinced they were retarded:

cuny.

touro.

california western.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3229164&forum_id=2#36225262)