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Date: November 29th, 2017 10:37 AM Author: bateful community account foreskin I think a bunch of libs got mad at Laur for giving Trump a what they thought was a softball interview around the time of OP. It may have been one of those "forums" where SHE and Trump had back to back interviews with Matt L but didn't interact with each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#34796910) |
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Hillary Clinton supporters on Wednesday sensed a degree of justice in the ouster of “Today” show host Matt Lauer, pointing to his highly scrutinized interviews of the 2016 presidential candidates as evidence of greater gender bias in the media.
Lauer, who was fired from NBC over allegations of “inappropriate sexual behavior,” was torched by Clinton backers on the campaign trail for what they perceived as a double standard in his questioning of the Democratic nominee and her electoral foe, Donald Trump.
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His handling of the “Commander-In-Chief Forum” in September 2016, an event Lauer moderated as Clinton and Trump fielded questions on national security and military affairs, faced renewed criticism Wednesday as news of his firing spread. Lauer at the time was slammed for grilling Clinton on the controversy over her private email server while seemingly sidestepping some of Trump’s campaign scandals.
“Another person whose interview with Trump was ridiculously soft and interview with Hillary was incredibly tough: Matt Lauer,” Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress and a prominent Clinton backer, tweeted Wednesday following’s Lauer’s ouster.
Peter Daou, who led Clinton’s digital campaign operation during her 2008 presidential bid and is the creator of the liberal leaning political site Verrit, posted on Facebook: “Matt Lauer was fired today. One by one, we’re finding out the true character of the male journalists who treated Hillary Clinton (and her voters) with seething disdain.”
Former Clinton aide Christina Reynolds responded to Lauer’s NBC departure by decrying the effect of the coverage of Clinton on women at large.
“To every woman and little girl who loved Hillary but consistently heard she couldn’t REALLY like or support Hillary — we knew you were there and were so grateful,” she said.
Clinton herself was highly critical of Lauer’s campaign questioning in the book “What Happened,” her 2017 memoir on last year’s presidential race.
“Trump should have reported his performance as an in-kind contribution,” Clinton wrote of Lauer. “I can’t say I didn’t fantasize about shaking some sense into Lauer while I was out there.”
Since last November, Clinton and her supporters have frequently cited the media’s coverage of her presidential campaign as one of the factors that led to her general-election loss to Trump.
In recent weeks, liberal commentators and analysts have reignited their critiques of the press’s treatment of Clinton, citing the ouster of MSNBC contributor Mark Halperin, the suspension of New York Times reporter and former POLITICO employee Glenn Thrush, and reports of misconduct by other journalists as a reckoning for their reporting of the 2016 race.
“Glenn Thrush and Mark Halperin bore huge responsibility for the way we saw/discussed Hillary Clinton,” cultural critic Soraya Nadia McDonald wrote on Twitter. “I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider how their attitudes toward women affected that.”
A wave of sexual misconduct allegations have rocked the media and political spheres in recent months, ensnaring major news outlets and politicians in controversy.
After NBC's termination of Lauer, Variety reported on three women who said he had subjected them to sexual harassment during their time at the network.
The report was the culmination of a two-month investigation in which the publication interviewed dozens of his current and former colleagues.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/hillary-clinton-supporters-matt-lauer-firing-268778 |
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Hillary Clinton supporters on Wednesday sensed a degree of justice in the ouster of “Today” show host Matt Lauer, pointing to his highly scrutinized interviews of the 2016 presidential candidates as evidence of greater gender bias in the media.
Lauer, who was fired from NBC over allegations of “inappropriate sexual behavior,” was torched by Clinton backers on the campaign trail for what they perceived as a double standard in his questioning of the Democratic nominee and her electoral foe, Donald Trump.
Story Continued Below
His handling of the “Commander-In-Chief Forum” in September 2016, an event Lauer moderated as Clinton and Trump fielded questions on national security and military affairs, faced renewed criticism Wednesday as news of his firing spread. Lauer at the time was slammed for grilling Clinton on the controversy over her private email server while seemingly sidestepping some of Trump’s campaign scandals.
“Another person whose interview with Trump was ridiculously soft and interview with Hillary was incredibly tough: Matt Lauer,” Neera Tanden, president of the liberal Center for American Progress and a prominent Clinton backer, tweeted Wednesday following’s Lauer’s ouster.
Peter Daou, who led Clinton’s digital campaign operation during her 2008 presidential bid and is the creator of the liberal leaning political site Verrit, posted on Facebook: “Matt Lauer was fired today. One by one, we’re finding out the true character of the male journalists who treated Hillary Clinton (and her voters) with seething disdain.”
Former Clinton aide Christina Reynolds responded to Lauer’s NBC departure by decrying the effect of the coverage of Clinton on women at large.
“To every woman and little girl who loved Hillary but consistently heard she couldn’t REALLY like or support Hillary — we knew you were there and were so grateful,” she said.
Clinton herself was highly critical of Lauer’s campaign questioning in the book “What Happened,” her 2017 memoir on last year’s presidential race.
“Trump should have reported his performance as an in-kind contribution,” Clinton wrote of Lauer. “I can’t say I didn’t fantasize about shaking some sense into Lauer while I was out there.”
Since last November, Clinton and her supporters have frequently cited the media’s coverage of her presidential campaign as one of the factors that led to her general-election loss to Trump.
In recent weeks, liberal commentators and analysts have reignited their critiques of the press’s treatment of Clinton, citing the ouster of MSNBC contributor Mark Halperin, the suspension of New York Times reporter and former POLITICO employee Glenn Thrush, and reports of misconduct by other journalists as a reckoning for their reporting of the 2016 race.
“Glenn Thrush and Mark Halperin bore huge responsibility for the way we saw/discussed Hillary Clinton,” cultural critic Soraya Nadia McDonald wrote on Twitter. “I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider how their attitudes toward women affected that.”
A wave of sexual misconduct allegations have rocked the media and political spheres in recent months, ensnaring major news outlets and politicians in controversy.
After NBC's termination of Lauer, Variety reported on three women who said he had subjected them to sexual harassment during their time at the network.
The report was the culmination of a two-month investigation in which the publication interviewed dozens of his current and former colleagues.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/hillary-clinton-supporters-matt-lauer-firing-268778
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 12:30 AM Author: hilarious comical mood Matt Lauer, like Charlie Rose and Mark Halperin before him, is a journalist out of a job after his employer fired him for sexually harassing female colleagues. It’s good news that real penalties are now leveled on men who harass — after centuries of the costs mostly befalling the women who endure harassment. But the deep cultural rot that has corroded nearly all of our institutions and every corner of our culture is not just about a few badly behaved men. Sexual harassment, and the sexism it’s predicated on, involves more than the harassers and the harassed; when the harassers are men with loud microphones, their private misogyny has wide-reaching public consequences. One of the most significant: the 2016 election.
Many of the male journalists who stand accused of sexual harassment were on the forefront of covering the presidential race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Matt Lauer interviewed Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump in an official “commander-in-chief forum” for NBC. He notoriously peppered and interrupted Mrs. Clinton with cold, aggressive, condescending questions hyper-focused on her emails, only to pitch softballs at Mr. Trump and treat him with gentle collegiality a half-hour later. Mark Halperin and Charlie Rose set much of the televised political discourse on the race, interviewing other pundits, opining themselves and obsessing over the electoral play-by-play. Mr. Rose, after the election, took a tone similar to Mr. Lauer’s with Mrs. Clinton — talking down to her, interrupting her, portraying her as untrustworthy. Mr. Halperin was a harsh critic of Mrs. Clinton, painting her as ruthless and corrupt, while going surprisingly easy on Mr. Trump. The reporter Glenn Thrush, currently on leave from The New York Times because of sexual harassment allegations, covered Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 campaign when he was at Newsday and continued to write about her over the next eight years for Politico.
By NILO TABRIZY 3:12 How Lauer Interviewed Trump and Clinton Video How Lauer Interviewed Trump and Clinton By NILO TABRIZY on Publish Date November 30, 2017. Photo by Karsten Moran for The New York Times. Watch in Times Video » A pervasive theme of all of these men’s coverage of Mrs. Clinton was that she was dishonest and unlikable. These recent harassment allegations suggest that perhaps the problem wasn’t that Mrs. Clinton was untruthful or inherently hard to connect with, but that these particular men hold deep biases against women who seek power instead of sticking to acquiescent sex-object status.
A month ago, Rebecca Traister wrote in New York magazine that with the flood of sexual harassment charges, “we see that the men who have had the power to abuse women’s bodies and psyches throughout their careers are in many cases also the ones in charge of our political and cultural stories.” With the Lauer accusations, this observation has come into sharper focus on one particular picture: the media sexism that contributed to Hillary Clinton’s loss.
The 2016 presidential race was so close that any of a half-dozen factors surely influenced the outcome: James Comey, racial politics, Clinton family baggage, the contentious Democratic primary, third-party spoilers, Russian interference, fake news. But when one of the best-qualified candidates for the presidency in American history and the first woman to get close to the Oval Office loses to an opponent who had not dedicated a nanosecond of his life to public service and ran a blatantly misogynist campaign, it’s hard to conclude that gender didn’t play a role.
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Continue reading the main story For arguing that gender shaped the election narrative and its result, feminists have been pooh-poohed, simultaneously told that it was Clinton, not her gender, that was the problem and that her female supporters were voting with their vaginas instead of their brains.
The latest harassment and assault allegations complicate that account and suggest that perhaps many of the high-profile media men covering Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump were the ones leading with their genitals. Mr. Trump was notoriously accused of multiple acts of sexual harassment and assault, and was caught on tape bragging about his proclivity for grabbing women. That several of the men covering the race — shaping the way American voters understood the candidates and what was at stake — were apparently behaving in similarly appalling ways off-camera calls into question not just their objectivity but also their ability to cover the story with the seriousness and urgency it demanded.
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Sign Up SEE SAMPLE PRIVACY POLICY OPT OUT OR CONTACT US ANYTIME Sexual harassment at the hands of political journalists also pulls back the curtain on how too many of these men view women generally. The journalists in question are accused of a range of behaviors, some more serious than others, from drunken unsolicited kisses to, in Mr. Lauer’s case, sexual assault (in addition to exposing himself to a colleague and sending another a sex toy with a note detailing how he would like to use it on her). The theme running through nearly all of the complaints is a man in a position of power who saw the women around him not as competent colleagues or as even sovereign human beings, but as sexual objects he could either proposition to boost his ego or humiliate to feed a desire for domination.
It’s hard to look at these men’s coverage of Mrs. Clinton and not see glimmers of that same simmering disrespect and impulse to keep women in a subordinate place. When men turn some women into sexual objects, the women who are inside that box are one-dimensional, while those outside of it become disposable; the ones who refuse to be disposed of, who continue to insist on being seen and heard, are inconvenient and pitiable at best, deceitful shrews and crazy harpies at worst. That’s exactly how some commentary and news coverage treated Mrs. Clinton.
This has ripple effects for all women. Men are assumed to fail or succeed based on merit; they are mentored and supported by more senior men, and no one bats an eye. Young women, though, are often treated as suspect if more senior men take an interest in them (and too often, more senior men’s interests are suspect indeed, but it’s women’s reputations that suffer the stigma of being thought to sleep or flirt their way to the top rather than earning their perches).
When men see women as sex objects first and colleagues second, their actual talents, skills and smarts are easily overlooked. A boss who harasses the woman in the cubicle next to you may not be sexually coercing you or torpedoing your career, but his actions signal that he does not see women as competent co-workers entitled to a rewarding and effective workplace.
Some commentators, most notably Geraldo Rivera, have written some acts of harassment off as courtship gone awry. This is truly bizarre, and it illustrates just how tied we are to the idea that women are inherently inviting sexual aggression and that men are inherently sexually voracious and socially clueless. Women, and most men, know that courtship doesn’t typically take the form of unwanted grabbing or unsolicited indecent exposure. (“Mommy and Daddy fell in love the day Daddy called Mommy into his office and began vigorously masturbating at her” is not exactly a meet-cute story.)
This moment isn’t about a nation of confused men. It’s about a minority of men who choose to treat women alternately as walking sex objects or bothersome and potentially devious nags. It’s about a majority of Americans who give men a pass for all manner of bad behavior, because they assume men are entitled to behave badly but hold women to an entirely different standard.
That is why it’s so egregious that sexual harassers set the tone of much of the coverage of the woman who hoped to be the first female president.
These “Crooked Hillary” narratives pushed by Mr. Lauer, Mr. Halperin, and a long list of other prominent journalists and pundits indelibly shaped the election, and were themselves gendered: Hillary Clinton as a cackling witch, Hillary Clinton a woman it was easy to distrust because she was also a woman seeking power, and what kind of woman does that? Mr. Trump emphasized this caricature as part of his more broadly sexist campaign, but he didn’t invent it. Nor was he the only famous man going on television to perpetuate it — while revealing a deep disdain for women when the cameras weren’t rolling.
This story has been updated to clarify a characterization of campaign coverage.
Jill Filipovic is the author of “The H Spot: The Feminist Pursuit of Happiness” and a contributing opinion writer.
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A pervasive theme of all of these men’s coverage of Mrs. Clinton was that she was dishonest and unlikable. These recent harassment allegations suggest that perhaps the problem wasn’t that Mrs. Clinton was untruthful or inherently hard to connect with, but that these particular men hold deep biases against women who seek power instead of sticking to acquiescent sex-object status. |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: bearded wrinkle degenerate Matt Lauer ‘Furious’ He May Have to Pay Annette Roque $50 Million in Divorce “Matt is furious he is essentially handing over half of his net worth to Annette,” the source adds. But he wants it over with. “He could fight for a better deal in court but that would only result in dragging this out longer and negative headlines,” the source says. “He is ready to move on with his life and truly believes that a television comeback is possible.” fair is fair |
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Date: July 26th, 2018 1:12 AM Author: useless mint milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36498436) |
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Date: July 26th, 2018 2:10 AM Author: flatulent razzle karate come back scholarship tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36498559) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: frisky queen of the night useless brakes still loling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36808230) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Metal obsidian deer antler office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36808270) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: frum garrison black woman this is the most most bizarre prediction thread in xo history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36808240) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2019 12:01 AM Author: Arousing crimson yarmulke abode Rudolph had some absolutely bizarre sports anti-predictions that actually blew my mind multiple times. It was like the heavens were against his predictions, and made the impossible occur mid game to make him lose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#38471651) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: indecent patrolman Lol@editing thread titles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#36808241) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 3:42 AM Author: effete toilet seat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#37054877) |
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Date: November 12th, 2018 8:12 PM Author: frisky queen of the night useless brakes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#37219382) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2018 9:39 AM Author: cream gunner hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#37282386) |
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Date: November 25th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Zombie-like depressive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#37299556) |
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Date: June 1st, 2019 5:47 PM Author: Henna learning disabled property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#38325276) |
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Date: July 1st, 2019 11:55 PM Author: Cordovan son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#38471608) |
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Date: August 1st, 2019 2:31 PM Author: telephone And these faggots out here pretending like there is no proof of time travel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#38623311) |
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Date: October 9th, 2019 11:15 AM Author: frum garrison black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#38952171) |
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Date: January 13th, 2020 11:21 PM Author: hilarious comical mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#39427107) |
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Date: January 15th, 2020 8:13 AM Author: unholy doobsian indirect expression (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#39433609) |
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Date: September 18th, 2020 10:17 PM Author: useless mint milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#40945978) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 4:33 AM Author: shivering chapel regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#40983699) |
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Date: September 25th, 2020 6:30 AM Author: citrine offensive associate Would like to see James Randi explain this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#40983779) |
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Date: November 18th, 2020 6:51 PM Author: medicated famous landscape painting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#41391960) |
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Date: December 13th, 2021 12:41 PM Author: frum garrison black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#43601613) |
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Date: March 6th, 2022 11:50 AM Author: grizzly Kind of wish it was Dan Rather instead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3344934&forum_id=2#44095361) |