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New SAT has HUGE INFLATION. I was wondering why so many schools had 1600 75th pe
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Date: February 13th, 2017 3:17 PM Author: big nudist stage http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/05/11/why-your-new-sat-score-is-not-as-strong-as-you-think-it-is/?utm_term=.3406cb9abc55 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612781) |
Date: February 13th, 2017 3:19 PM Author: bronze business firm yarmulke Negros will still get piss poor scores because or racism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612808) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 3:26 PM Author: Outnumbered White Marketing Idea "But a new 1600 is just as perfect as an old 1600." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32612849) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:14 PM Author: Boyish lay black woman dumb fucking reporters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613254) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: big nudist stage how could that possibly be true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613268) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: Maroon knife they're both the max possible score on the test
i guarantee you they are using that sort of retarded justification |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: Odious voyeur The SAT has been SPS since the elimination of analogies, the most g-loaded section. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614421) |
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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:52 PM Author: effete emerald codepig they eliminated the analogies from the sat?
so how is it different from the acTTT, then? |
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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:53 PM Author: salmon swashbuckling native dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932861) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:26 PM Author: Cerise Prole State It was RACCISS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141405) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:26 PM Author: Lake immigrant Wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141407) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:13 PM Author: snowy heady quadroon Have you taken a look at the new SAT? It's total dogshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613243) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:15 PM Author: big nudist stage no. describe. why did they change it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613263) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:17 PM Author: salmon swashbuckling native dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613280) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:42 PM Author: pungent senate Almost all the g-loaded elements are gone. the math is more "advanced' because it includes some trig but it's all very basic. no analogies of course, and sentence completion is now gone as well. what a joke.
https://collegereadiness.collegeboard.org/pdf/sat-practice-test-4.pdf
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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:37 PM Author: Violent coral field i disagree. the whole point of "g" is that it's correlated with pretty much any mental task. just because there's some more learnable material does not mean the sat is now useless, as there will still be very hard ceilings for people based on their innate intelligence. the sat and act were and are highly correlated despite the act's greater tendency to focus on achievement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616938) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:58 PM Author: federal pale selfie A test full of one-digit addition problems (e.g., 4 + 3 = ?) would test intelligence, but it wouldn't have much power to separate people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32617101) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:32 PM Author: elite unhinged brunch filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32766821) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:29 PM Author: chestnut puppy depends on how it is administered. paced auditory serial addition tasks are highly correlated with IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767240) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:04 PM Author: Arrogant Poppy Hospital "g-loaded elements" sounds like aspie flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767076) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 4:18 PM Author: federal pale selfie Is this covert affirmative action? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32613285) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: jet-lagged godawful bbw house lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614428) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: federal pale selfie I don't know, brother.
Sounds like a good way to curry favor with schools. |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:14 PM Author: jet-lagged godawful bbw house idk, at most it's aa for white non-strivers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614610) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 6:54 PM Author: elite unhinged brunch filthpig they're just trying to get more people to take the ACT; it's part of an insidious plot to get everyone taking both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614448) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: federal pale selfie ACT kicking back to SAT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614585) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: Offensive 180 partner THE JEWS! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616880) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:56 PM Author: Orchid center overt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767016) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 7:12 PM Author: aqua stead 1600 75th percentiles? wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32614594) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:37 PM Author: burgundy multi-colored idiot 164 GRE quant masterman here, sup (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32616941) |
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Date: February 13th, 2017 11:47 PM Author: painfully honest amber pervert forum the SAT is dying anyway
This only helps the ACT even more as it has better separation |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: big nudist stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32766771) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:02 PM Author: motley factory reset button messiness The shitlibbery started in the mid-90s
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/306485-old-pre-1995-sat.html
1500 and change meant something back then. 1600 was like a couple dozen people a year. |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:16 PM Author: big nudist stage why are they doing this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767151) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Maroon knife i'm sure they get constant complaints about minorities doing worse on their tests, and insisting the problem arises somewhere else in the pipeline never works (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767178) |
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Date: March 6th, 2017 4:22 PM Author: motley factory reset button messiness Because everyone is a special snowflake and it makes it easier to curate the admissions classes at top schools. They can discriminate against Asians and Christians while letting the shitlibs and other minorities in without having a material hit to their numbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32767197) |
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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:49 PM Author: big nudist stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932823) |
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Date: March 27th, 2017 8:52 PM Author: effete emerald codepig jigaboo, jigaboo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#32932851) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:25 PM Author: big nudist stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3524924&forum_id=2#33141398) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2017 12:47 PM Author: big nudist stage The SATs Should Bring Back Analogies
A mastery of words paves the way to serious reading, while the writing test only paves the way to semiliterate prose. By John McWhorter Oct. 16, 2013
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The SAT high schoolers have been doing lately is not the one you knew. Since 2005, the word analogies – like querulous is to complain as deceitful is to cheat — have been scrapped and students have been required to write an essay instead. Lots of people thought this meant having to show “real” language skills – no more of those “mechanical” analogies.
Well, the verdict is in. It turns our that the essays measure nothing meaningful – or at best, they measure a student’s ability to “bullshit on demand” as MIT’s Les Perelman puts it. Some of this may be that written work is simply incompatible to a standardized test where millions of people must get measured against each other. Evaluators are encouraged to take as little as two minutes to grade these essays. But that means students regularly get high scores for essays written with no regard for fact – who has time to check? – or that don’t even reflect anything they actually believe or feel. Plus they are told they should write with fancy words to look smart. Something is very wrong here. The SAT, created to identify quality of mind in students regardless of background, is now encouraging students to write in a fake and pretentious way.
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There is, in fact, very little value in making students, or anybody, write an essay in under a half hour if the idea is to assess writing ability. The task corresponds to nothing almost anyone is ever asked to do in life. It’s like a driving test that requires jumping two rivers and stopping on a dime. Meanwhile, what would show an actual advanced mastery of language is those grand old analogies thrown out so confidently in 2005. The movement against analogies started in 2001 with then-University of California President Richard Atkinson broadcasting his dismay at seeing 12-year-old students being drilled in – gasp! – vocabulary. Since then, there has been a widespread movement, from elementary school up to college prep, that it’s backwards to teach students specific words. Many fourth and fifth grade classes have no spelling tests—instead, students are told to go find words they need to “work on.
Someone who has refused this trend is William Dowling, a Rutgers University English professor who has argued that mastery of advanced vocabulary is vital to understanding the texts that college education presents students with. Back when the SAT still included the analogies, he found that the verbal portion of the test correlated quite well with the final grades of his students, and regardless of socioeconomic status. One actual SAT question at the time was “The traditional process of producing an oil painting requires so many steps that it seems ______ to artists who prefer to work quickly. (A) provocative (B) consummate (C) interminable (D) facile (E) prolific.”
The mastery of such words paves the way to reading serious prose, while the writing test paves the way to writing in a canned, formulaic style. It generates mediocrity not just in the present but the future. Since we have abandoned teaching them what words mean, once they get to college they will write in a hollow, semiliterate way, formally passable but mentally vacuous. At least they’ll get to do it slowly.
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Russian students are steeped in the rococo vocabulary of Pushkin. Orthodox Jewish men are trained in the subtleties of Biblical Hebrew words. Most of us would be baffled to watch students in, say, Italy being taught formal words in their beautiful language and having someone stand by sneering at it as mechanical. Yet wise educators here in the US somehow see things differently. Our make-or-break-it tests must measure a student’s ability to write an elevated rendition of jabbering. Never mind whether she knows what prolific, forlorn, or extemporaneous even mean.
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