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When I look back at Of Counsel still at my old Biglaw firm, I shudder...

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of be...
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  03/01/17
at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in busines...
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights an...
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
more like $350k for 2500 hours a year
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500 and sr assoc...
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior ...
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. ...
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm"...
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of...
Flickering Sexy Legal Warrant Space
  03/01/17
This is my experience as well although I think the bill clos...
supple bearded indirect expression international law enforcement agency
  03/01/17
so basiclaly close to what i said
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 bil...
supple bearded indirect expression international law enforcement agency
  03/01/17
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Flickering Sexy Legal Warrant Space
  03/01/17
These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely ...
exhilarant filthpig business firm
  03/01/17
Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back thou...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  03/01/17
they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitch...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  03/01/17
u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones
Bull headed heady cruise ship
  03/01/17
Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a part...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  03/01/17
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Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  11/23/17
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Azure circlehead
  03/01/17
At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of adv...
histrionic flatulent jewess
  03/01/17
What's an "of counsel"?
sienna church
  11/23/17
Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of brea...
passionate forum ceo
  11/23/17
Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service p...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  11/23/17
define respect
Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage
  11/23/17
Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  11/23/17
who cares about this shit
Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage
  11/23/17
It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert...
Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  11/23/17
At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 ...
talking chocolate famous landscape painting
  11/23/17
? prestige is everything
Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage
  11/23/17
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Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete
  12/09/17


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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

The idea of just having had to deal with all that shit of being an Of Counsel at some big firm in a non-specialty area for that entire time I've been gone seems so terrible, I almost shed a tear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729577)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:56 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Don't of counsels usually have some specialized knowledge or skillsets? That's why firms keep them around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729627)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

at my old firm the models was that Partners bring in business and senior associates and of counsel manage it....definitely some of counsel are specialist, but lots aren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729634)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

him - making $450-500k working 9-4 with ocassional nights and weekends, billing 1600/year

you - poast on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729580)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

more like $350k for 2500 hours a year



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729600)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

no, of counsel work closer to 1500 than 2500

and sr assoc make liek 300 base, ofc will make more + bonus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729617)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

not at my old firm. Of Counsel weren't lockstep, so senior associates often made more, especially with bonus.

And the non-specialist of counsel billed a ton of hours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729637)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

sorry bout your tiny pink firm bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729683)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:12 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

It was a tip top firm. The model was actually very smart. Allowed the partners to avoid as much grunt work as possible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729737)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

of counsel wouldnt stick around at a "tip top firm" if they were billing 2500, making less than sr assoc, and had no partnership chances. play flame better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729750)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: Flickering Sexy Legal Warrant Space

poaster isn't flaming unless he and i work at same place. of counsel would bill 2000-2400 hours and pay $350k - $500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729763)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: supple bearded indirect expression international law enforcement agency

This is my experience as well although I think the bill closer to 2000 and make closer to 500k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729783)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:24 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

so basiclaly close to what i said

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729806)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: supple bearded indirect expression international law enforcement agency

No - there is a massive difference between 1500 and 2000 billables

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729854)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: Flickering Sexy Legal Warrant Space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729953)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:20 PM
Author: exhilarant filthpig business firm

These are people 15+ years out of lawschool with absolutely no business of their own....many don't have any other option that pays as much other than being the same thing at another law firm....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729784)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Of counsels are eliterally laughed at behind their back though. They have zero respect from anyone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729639)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:04 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

they have the joy of scholarship, wat more do you need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729685)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:14 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Being an of counsel is the quintessential example of a bitchmade "man" broken in pieces by GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729751)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: Bull headed heady cruise ship

u just described all lawyers, accountants, corporate drones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729753)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:19 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Nope, fine to be lawyer if you're on partner track or a partner. At least you're getting a piece of the pie. But if you stay at the firm after they told you "lolno" you're a fucking loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729775)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758090)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:05 PM
Author: Azure circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729689)



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Date: March 1st, 2017 5:44 PM
Author: histrionic flatulent jewess

At my firm of counsels work hard without the prospect of advancement. I'm sure the money is okay but it's otherwise the worst of all worlds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#32729935)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 6:57 PM
Author: sienna church

What's an "of counsel"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758158)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 PM
Author: passionate forum ceo

Consolation prize title an associate can get instead of breakfast.

Usually in BIGLAW it's up or out so if you get no-breakfasted you're expected to leave. Sometimes though they want to keep you as their bitch so they make you "of counsel".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758239)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Who gets more respect at a v20: a brand new junior service partner or a senior of counsel who's been at the firm for 30 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758251)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage

define respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758259)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:22 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

Who goes to whose office for a meeting? Who comes first in a CC line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758282)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage

who cares about this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758287)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:30 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete

It'd be demeaning to be some 60 year old bro who's an expert in his field and he has to sit in earls office to get briefed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758326)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 PM
Author: talking chocolate famous landscape painting

At my firm (regional big-ish law), our of counsel bill 1200 hours and make 200k. Seems like a sweet gig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758257)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:19 PM
Author: Spectacular Low-t Theater Stage

? prestige is everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34758262)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: Translucent swashbuckling half-breed keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3540335&forum_id=2#34877515)